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webby1919 25th Jul 2008 13:11

They are in profit already this year. SFB route is doing really well and all shorthaul routes are filled to capacity on most days, or near 90-95% capacity. W08 selling well too.

Copenhagen 25th Jul 2008 14:51

With every other low cost airline in Europe expecting profits to fall dramatically this year (FR, U2, SkyEurope, etc), why on earth do people here expect Globespan to increase profits? Globespan lost £13m in '07, so we should expect a higher loss in '08....

Or, will we continue to bury our head in the sand? :ugh:

luvly jubbly 25th Jul 2008 15:05

Why an increase in profits?

Because we haven't had 4 engine changes this year!

Jimmy Riddle 25th Jul 2008 15:10

And when was the last time you checked you wage slip and allowances LJ ....any chance of an increase in salary and a reduction in these hours...they're killing...and we will continue to lose people unless something is done about them.

webby1919 25th Jul 2008 15:29

The profit was obliterated in 2007 with the number of engine changes that they had to make on the B752ERs. This year they won't have that problem. Also, this year they have been flying long-served routes so no high start-up costs. If the B752s did not require engine changes and the Glasgow Airport Attack did not happen then they would have turned a £3m profit for 2007.

This year it'll probably be expected to return to around £3-4 million.

diesel36 25th Jul 2008 15:30

Webby so you have access to the books do you

No i didnt think so, dont think they are in profit already this year

Just your wishful thinking, doesnt matter if the flights are full or not

what are they selling the seats for to bribe people to travel with them..

Wasnt so long ago on here that some routes were been reduced, maybe

thats why the flights are full reduce them and throw them all onto 1,

you know how the customer service is at GSM .. non existant..

Facelookbovvered 25th Jul 2008 15:33

And Jimmy its good to see a reduction in.......................................................... .....dots already, with regards to profits you can not say they are in profit already, you can say year to date they are profitable, but winter cometh and very few make money at that time of year. I expect a number of airlines including Jet2 & Globespam to chop crews costs before October by laying off new starts and unpaid leave. Picking crew up in the spring will not be a problem and it might help them get thro the winter. BTW good to see the good people of Glasgow East have come to their senses........after 87 years, so there's plenty of time for Globespam to sort their problems out before they get the boot from the Scots (with a little help from Manchester engineers!!)

Copenhagen 25th Jul 2008 15:38

Luvly - does $140 oil not ring a bell?

With every 767 to Orlando costing about $50k more per return trip just in fuel bills, Globespan profits will be even thinner this year in comparison to last...

Ryanair and Easy reducing yields ex Scotland to spain also reduces revenues and loads.

But, then, we can always cover our ears, and not read the newspapers... :ugh:

luvly jubbly 25th Jul 2008 16:15

I guess we will find out next May when the figures are released.........

GSM SCOT 25th Jul 2008 17:02

Profits
 
Most of our fuel for this year and the winter has been hedged at well below $140 a barrel, so the SFB route is very profitable, same for the canadian routes.

GSM will make a profit this year with no need to bride passengers to fly.

Facelookbovvered 25th Jul 2008 19:22

Bride- Scottish for bribe

Deeko01 25th Jul 2008 21:31

FWIW l had a great flight with GSM on Tuesday in DLCH, on time, great cabin crew service, nice to see you again RW, glad you are doing well, look forward to the return flight.

Would have no hesitation in booking GSM again for another trip, wish them all the best for the future and hope the dissenters give up praying for there demise, if it was going to happen it would have been before now!!

colsie 25th Jul 2008 21:39

Sorry from my experience with Globespan I would not fly with them again.

First of all it was an old classic 737-300. It was of course beautiful to look at, but not for the flight between Glasgow and Faro. It felt too small for the 3 hour or so flight.

Secondly the Cabin crew failed to give a good performance as such during the flight. Many walked around looking rather depressed throwing on a rather forced smile form time to time. We only had one stewardess from Glasgow, the rest being English and personally I find the Scottish flight crew's to be funnier and friendlier.

Thirdly the flight cost a bomb shell.

I would however comment on the nice piloting skill. The Captain extended the route several time's to avoid turbulence. Or according to the captain anyway.

The interior was rather shabby and the age of the crfat was showing baldly.

DAVYDAY 26th Jul 2008 01:23

Love Em
 
Why all the sad stories.?
This summer is the best yet.

At GLA & EDI You have - A real engineering company, a real handling company and over the last 3 years the best performance ever.

Call me a sado but I do look at overall performances for airlines,handling companies and engineering.

Ok Catering could be better and Cleaning needs adressed but overall
you are 64% better than last year at GLA.
and 72% at EDI.

I dont know why your compalining.

I wish I was on your tream.

As for the drivers (Pilots) hahaha you have a profesional job to do
and it looks like your doing it very well indeed.

You should pat yourselfs on the back chaps.:D

Copenhagen 26th Jul 2008 09:03

Davy, what planet are you living on? The Facts say the exact opposite.

Globespan is the least punctual Low Cost Carrier in the UK.

FLIGHTONTIME.info - Low Cost Airline Delays & Punctuality in the UK


What about Which magazine?

Research Finds British Airlines Fare Badly With Their Customers (from The Herald )

<i> Scottish airline Flyglobespan comes near the bottom of the table, with an overall score of just 37%. Of 42 long-haul carriers rated by subscribers to Which?, Scotland's largest airline ranked 38th, with in-flight entertainment and the company's ability to deal with delays singled out for particular criticism. </i>

But yet again, we can ignore the facts, and live in our own 'arent we great' bubble. :ugh:

silverstreak 26th Jul 2008 19:20

Have been told that the Europe Airpost B737 is by far, a superior aircraft to any of GSMs own B737-300s to fly on as a passenger.

Ive had a look inside and to be honest, looks alone, I would agree.

(It was in pax config when I looked inside ;))

scotsunflyer 26th Jul 2008 20:25

Fun and games again today

GSM471/472 EDI/AGP/EDI operated by the YHM B752 from GLA, GSM561 EDI/LPA operated by B73H from GLA, return flight will operate to EDI.
YHM passengers to/from LGW ferried to/from GLA on B736. GLA-YHM delayed over 4 hrs due to B752 being 3-4hrs late.

GCEJO was to go to EDI after maintenance, but never went into service today, hence the shortage of aircraft.

THe B733 which was based at EDI is now based at GLA, with a B73H based at EDI. (EDI base now 1xB73H, 1xB73W, and 1xB736)

One of the B736 is due to leave the fleet soon.

gflynorw 27th Jul 2008 07:43

"Have been told that the Europe Airpost B737 is by far, a superior aircraft to any of GSMs own B737-300s to fly on as a passenger.

Ive had a look inside and to be honest, looks alone, I would agree.

(It was in pax config when I looked inside ;))"

Bearing in mind it sits on the cargo ramp all day - hasn't done half as much as our 733's have done, which I'd say are workhorses.

Our's aren't that bad! they've served us well!

Deeko01 27th Jul 2008 22:01

Also love the fact you dont mention that Jet2 have 21 B733's, GSM have 2 and must actually have one of the most modern fleets around!

Gimme a break please with the GSM bashing its getting boring now.

firstchoice7e7 27th Jul 2008 23:19

flyglobespan has an average fleet age of 6.1 years, Out of the 16 UK airlines ive included GSM is 3rd.

As a comparison

Palmair has 34 years

Jet 2 has 20.5 years

Loganair has 18.1 years

Air Southwest has 16.4 years

bmi baby has 13.3 years tied with Eastern also at 13.3 years

Monarch has 13.1 years

British Airways has 11.4 years

First Choice/thomsonfly has 10 years

Astraeus has 7.9 years

Virgin Atlantic has 7 years

bmi has 6.3 years

FlyBe has 4.9 years

Easyjet has 3.3 years

Actually the youngest is 2.8 years with Ryanair (though as thats an irish company i havent included it)


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