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captaintrigger 12th Jan 2008 17:29

FlyGlobespan -7
 
FlyGlobespan have made the decision as of 12th Jan to stop ETOPS until further notice.
Just to clarify the Airline has made this decision and NOT the CAA.
Probably want to get the 757 sorted before carrying out ETOPS again!
CT

diesel36 12th Jan 2008 18:01

The 76 that was flying for Santa Barbara is now in Sanford

Leaving to go to glasgow tonight...

DIRECTTANGODELTA 13th Jan 2008 10:48

Does anyone have any idea of their fleet plans for the summer, especially whats going to be MME based?? Are they consolidating in 2008? after all the problems during 2007.

The booking website looks as if its one aircraft at MME but they are sharing most of the flights with EDI/GOW at the moment, is this load related or aircraft based?

luvly jubbly 15th Jan 2008 11:08

GSM have 4 737-600s on heavy maintenance over the winter (Undercarriage ADDs). That's probably why there's the doubling up on flights.

No idea of the MME aircraft for 2008 yet. I would guess on 1 or 2 736s

Oh and I've just noteced the MME-TFS route continues into the Summer. Then I guess it will be a 736 and a 733!

iflycwl 15th Jan 2008 13:28

If GSM have stopped ETOPS until further notice how is this going to affect the BRS-YHM route for Summer 2008 ?

Will this affect their B757 from there ?

luvly jubbly 15th Jan 2008 15:41

ETOPS will be back by then..... It's relinquished while the cause of the 757 surge is determined.

wheelbarrow 15th Jan 2008 16:07

NoFLY Put put Jokespan
 
Interesting..........very very interesting indeed.

Hear SBAirlines got browned off with them so didnt pay.:):):) Advertising for replacement airline for CCS routes in speedway.

Thats 2 motors wrecked on JM and this was the replacement engine.:rolleyes:

Roll on Kuala Lumper looks like theyll badly need work in order to pay de bills.

Any word from Keith or Joe :sad: FFFFFoster?

Love Jimmy X

GSM SCOT 15th Jan 2008 20:34

Santa Barbara
 
Santa Barbara was so "browned off" with GSM that they were requesting a 2nd 767 for the summer.

Only one engine "wrecked" on JM and it wasn't the replacement engine. Should be back in service within a few weeks.

MEX2007 16th Jan 2008 07:11

I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused as for the reason that led to terminate the lease of G-EOCD for Santa Barbara... did this Venezuelan airline have not paid the lease? I have read contradictory versions, thus I would be really thankful if you help me understand what happened.

Flyglobespan applied before the US Department of Transportation, and was appoved, to serve the Caracas-Miami-Caracas route for the lessee (Santa Barbara) in a long term wet lease plan: it was approved from December 2007 to November 2008, then I would have never imagined it would end so soon (around a month, a little more than a month).

Thanks in advance.

W Cdr Gibson 17th Jan 2008 06:56

MEX- The 767 was pulled due to the fact that it couldn't go ETOPS to Caracas from Miami and would have to have gone an overland route which would have added lots of time and put the schedule out of sync.GSM SCOT- I beg to differ it's both engines on the 757, just ask Storm or indeed the GSM "engineers" based at GLACpt Trigger- It was pulled by TD before the CAA pulled it for him. They had 5 days to rectify the situation ..... and obviously couldn't. Voluntarily pulling the ETOPS keeps it out of the paper ........... and avoids the adverse publicity that would have brought.

tallaonehotel 17th Jan 2008 07:24

I take it GSM still haven't found anyone to do their engine trends yet?.
Poor show, and it is still only January....

luvly jubbly 17th Jan 2008 11:05

CCS-MIA is not an ETOPS route. CCS-MAD & CCS-TFN are.
Seems strange that the ACMI was cancelled (by GSM) the day before ETOPS was relinquished, but the official explaination is that it was cancelled due to payment issues.

As GSM dropped SB pax off in MIA before taking the 763 to on to SFB, this suggests to me that it was indeed GSM who pulled the plug on the ACMI.

Re G-CEJM. It was not the new engine that had the surge, but the older engine which had been recently leased out.

GSM had 20 aircraft this year, with how many engine changes???????
Out of 3 757s, I think there were 4 engine changes, and a brand new 73G was grounded with engine problems. Plus the 2 engines that were taken off one of the 736s....... Surely this is more than just bad luck?

matkat 19th Jan 2008 09:17

I take it GSM still haven't found anyone to do their engine trends yet?.
Poor show, and it is still only January....


Again someone not knowing what they are talking about.
EZECM do ALL trend monitoring of GSM fleet they stated that they could not have foreseen the surge event(either of them) as it was a "one off" event, and also GSM have only had 2 engine changes(one not yet performed) the other two aircraft quoted were on wet lease from icelandair.The engine problem onthe 737NG was caused by a manufacturing defect of which CFMI are accepting liability.

groundrat 19th Jan 2008 18:23

quote:
"Again someone not knowing what they are talking about.
EZECM do ALL trend monitoring of GSM fleet they stated that they could not have foreseen the surge event(either of them) as it was a "one off" event, and also GSM have only had 2 engine changes(one not yet performed) the other two aircraft quoted were on wet lease from icelandair.The engine problem onthe 737NG was caused by a manufacturing defect of which CFMI are accepting liability"

Very good matkat....are you at the sharp end of this "operation"?
Tell me-in your infinite wisdom-how on earth can two engine surges be a "one off" event?obviously,if there were (apparently)two seperate surges then it wasn't a "one-off"event was it??:ugh::ugh::ugh:Please explain because where i come from,if the same thing happens more than once then it is not a "one-off" event!:rolleyes:

GW76 19th Jan 2008 18:59

werent the surge events on two seperate engines, making them "one off" events on each engine ???????:confused:

groundrat 19th Jan 2008 21:51

aahh....D'oh!thanks GW76-old age i guess:\

MEX2007 20th Jan 2008 01:22

Thansk W Cdr Gibson and luvly jubbly for your replies and explanations. It is too bad the wet-lease had to be cancelled in such way.

Santa Barbara is now leasing a 757 from Icelandair: TF-FIS, which not long ago was flying for Flyglobespan. I hope they get their payments right this time.

Regards, thanks.

luvly jubbly 20th Jan 2008 11:53

Yes I know that 2 engine changes were on Icelandair aircraft, but GSM had to pay for them!
4 engine changes in 6 months is not good (Plus the NG etc etc)
All on current (or ex Icelandair aircraft).
So.... Do icelandair have problems normally, or is it just when GSM operate the 752s that the problems arise??

I only ask, as I have personally flown every single one of GSM's aircraft except G-CEJM and I don't really fancy more problems in Hamilton this summer!

4567 20th Jan 2008 17:32

Are GSM still planning to get the NEOS 767's back for the summer 2008 to operate the GLA-SFB and Vancover,Calgary flights instead of using there own ?

I take it they have lied to the press by saying that there services to BOS and JFK were returning for the summer 2008 !

groundrat 20th Jan 2008 19:52

According to Wikipedia, the claim is that GSM will be leasing 2 Neos 767s for summer 2008.Don't know how accurate their info is though.

matkat,thanks for the pm-i tried to reply but i don't think it worked:confused:technology does not seem to be my friend at the moment:bored:

luvly jubbly 20th Jan 2008 22:23

I also hear 2x763 from NEOS for S08. (SFB & West Canada). The 752 should be doing Hamilton runs and the 763 from SB is doing the MOD contract for now.

There are currently no plans for transatlantic 737s for S08

jethro15 21st Jan 2008 08:53

The two Neos 767's are not confirmed. The Air India contract expires in May and at the moment GSM's own 767's are scheduled to return to the fleet. However there is a possibility that the AI leases may be extended and until this decision is made there is no need for the Neos lease.

Currently, there is no requirement for a 757 until March

jethro
UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings
http://www.jethros.dwsitech.com

FMGLA 21st Jan 2008 15:11

Business Class seats?
 
A family member of mine and a group of his friends have booked on a GLA-SFB flight in september, and have booked the flight back in business, however, in the last few days, GSM have called us to tell us that they are cutting down business class from 24 to 12 on their 763 currently. Are they leasing other aircraft or just getting rid of 2 rows from their current 763's. Are they doing this for all the Calgary/Vancouver flights as well then?

GW76 21st Jan 2008 16:03

And GSMs chopping and changing continues.....will they never learn..?
Sounds suspiciously like a 757 with that config......new engines anyone ?

FMGLA 21st Jan 2008 17:00

Change in Business class
 
The guy from GSM has booked the group on the way out(in economy) in row 3, which would suggest it is a 763 as there are now only 2 rows in business and 12 seats. They have been very good with the situation and have al least told us in good time so people volunteered to downgrade, and recieved the difference in price and a £50 GSM voucher, which isnt too bad.

14 loop 21st Jan 2008 17:33

Neos 767 biz config Summer 07
 
These were in 24 seat config last summer....and very good it was too YVR-LGW. My flights with them were faultless but I know others had problems!

The 757s had more than 12 seats in biz last year also.

dicanio10 21st Jan 2008 18:45

Can a 757-200 do GLA to SFB in one hop? We did this on the NEOS 767 last September and it was a good service. Premium economy out and business back (they changed the flights 3 times so I got them to upgrade). Had row 4 coming back, 767 was 4 rows of 2-2-2 in business.
Booked to go back March 1st and have been following this thread with interest.
I suspect we are in for a re-fuelling stop somewhere. Am I right?

nivsy 21st Jan 2008 19:12

Did Glasgow-Orlando years ago on a B757 of Air 2000 without any stopping en-route. Think it was "meant" to stop at Gander but guess was pushed by the tail down. Anyway with favourable conditions and maybe not a full load its possible.

4567 23rd Jan 2008 16:38

Have Flyglobespan still got there slots at Boston logan airport ?

wheelbarrow 23rd Jan 2008 18:29

No Fly BROKESpan
 
I hear that theyre on thin tenderhooks with Boston Logan Authority over some unpaid taxes but a meeting due soon with TD as hes heading over soon. incidentially met Tom recently and air india may extend 6 months with FG n PT but at the moment no decision re OD.

The Engine that came to pieces on 767 in Heathrow last year after someone reengaged the starter before n2 reduced has finally been repaired.

JM shoould have been sorted out by now but who knows?????????

ETOPS still NOT allowed or approved.

Cheeriooooooooooo
X Jimmy (ach eye)

now if u asked me on a wednesday id say eye :p

tano 23rd Jan 2008 20:19

N3 on a 767!!!

U looser

W Cdr Gibson 24th Jan 2008 11:24

Matkat.... Only 2 engine changes?????? Please tell me then why GCDKD is sitting in SEN with no engines????

ggspn 24th Jan 2008 14:54

G-OTDA at that moment. In france.

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It sure offers outstanding legroom!! :ok:

4567 24th Jan 2008 22:06

Were are the 737-700's and 737-300's going to be based for summer 2008 ?

GoEDI 24th Jan 2008 23:45

B73Gs 1 at EDI, 1 at ABZ. B733s 1 at GLA and 1 at MME.

nivsy 25th Jan 2008 09:04

Gla-Prg?
 
Has GSM dropped the Glasgow-Prague link after end of March 08?

luvly jubbly 25th Jan 2008 10:12

Jethro, I understand that G-CDPT's lease to AIC expires this spring but will most likely be extended. G-CEFG's lease at AIC doesn't expire until the Autumn.

NEOS will be asked back. (1 or maybe 2 767s.)

The 757 should be back in GLA anytime now and will be used as a backup for the 73s for Feb/March. The S08 SFB is 2 class only and is being sold as our 757 config, with business and premium economy seats.
It seems that no final decisions have been made for S08 yet, but we are told that there are no plans this year to send 737s transatlantic......... But then again!!

Nivsy, It looks like GLA-PRG is off the menu for S08. (As it was from June 07). Looks like it's a winter route for GSM now.

Regards,

LJ

jethro15 25th Jan 2008 11:02


luvly jubbly
The 757 should be back in GLA anytime now and will be used as a backup for the 73s for Feb/March.
Yes it is now back in GLA, but I understand it is AOG.

jethro

4567 25th Jan 2008 15:14

So will GLA be having 5 737-800's and 1 737-300 based for S08 with a 767 operating SFB ?

luvly jubbly 25th Jan 2008 16:29

Not sure how many will be at GLA, but there will still be at least 1 in Kuala Lumpur this summer, operating for GMG.


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