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Old 12th Jan 2008, 17:29
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FlyGlobespan -7

FlyGlobespan have made the decision as of 12th Jan to stop ETOPS until further notice.
Just to clarify the Airline has made this decision and NOT the CAA.
Probably want to get the 757 sorted before carrying out ETOPS again!
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Old 12th Jan 2008, 18:01
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The 76 that was flying for Santa Barbara is now in Sanford

Leaving to go to glasgow tonight...
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Does anyone have any idea of their fleet plans for the summer, especially whats going to be MME based?? Are they consolidating in 2008? after all the problems during 2007.

The booking website looks as if its one aircraft at MME but they are sharing most of the flights with EDI/GOW at the moment, is this load related or aircraft based?
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GSM have 4 737-600s on heavy maintenance over the winter (Undercarriage ADDs). That's probably why there's the doubling up on flights.

No idea of the MME aircraft for 2008 yet. I would guess on 1 or 2 736s

Oh and I've just noteced the MME-TFS route continues into the Summer. Then I guess it will be a 736 and a 733!

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Old 15th Jan 2008, 13:28
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If GSM have stopped ETOPS until further notice how is this going to affect the BRS-YHM route for Summer 2008 ?

Will this affect their B757 from there ?
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Old 15th Jan 2008, 15:41
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ETOPS will be back by then..... It's relinquished while the cause of the 757 surge is determined.
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Old 15th Jan 2008, 16:07
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Talking NoFLY Put put Jokespan

Interesting..........very very interesting indeed.

Hear SBAirlines got browned off with them so didnt pay. Advertising for replacement airline for CCS routes in speedway.

Thats 2 motors wrecked on JM and this was the replacement engine.

Roll on Kuala Lumper looks like theyll badly need work in order to pay de bills.

Any word from Keith or Joe FFFFFoster?

Love Jimmy X
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Old 15th Jan 2008, 20:34
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Santa Barbara

Santa Barbara was so "browned off" with GSM that they were requesting a 2nd 767 for the summer.

Only one engine "wrecked" on JM and it wasn't the replacement engine. Should be back in service within a few weeks.
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I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused as for the reason that led to terminate the lease of G-EOCD for Santa Barbara... did this Venezuelan airline have not paid the lease? I have read contradictory versions, thus I would be really thankful if you help me understand what happened.

Flyglobespan applied before the US Department of Transportation, and was appoved, to serve the Caracas-Miami-Caracas route for the lessee (Santa Barbara) in a long term wet lease plan: it was approved from December 2007 to November 2008, then I would have never imagined it would end so soon (around a month, a little more than a month).

Thanks in advance.
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MEX- The 767 was pulled due to the fact that it couldn't go ETOPS to Caracas from Miami and would have to have gone an overland route which would have added lots of time and put the schedule out of sync.GSM SCOT- I beg to differ it's both engines on the 757, just ask Storm or indeed the GSM "engineers" based at GLACpt Trigger- It was pulled by TD before the CAA pulled it for him. They had 5 days to rectify the situation ..... and obviously couldn't. Voluntarily pulling the ETOPS keeps it out of the paper ........... and avoids the adverse publicity that would have brought.

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Old 17th Jan 2008, 07:24
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Thumbs down

I take it GSM still haven't found anyone to do their engine trends yet?.
Poor show, and it is still only January....
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 11:05
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CCS-MIA is not an ETOPS route. CCS-MAD & CCS-TFN are.
Seems strange that the ACMI was cancelled (by GSM) the day before ETOPS was relinquished, but the official explaination is that it was cancelled due to payment issues.

As GSM dropped SB pax off in MIA before taking the 763 to on to SFB, this suggests to me that it was indeed GSM who pulled the plug on the ACMI.

Re G-CEJM. It was not the new engine that had the surge, but the older engine which had been recently leased out.

GSM had 20 aircraft this year, with how many engine changes???????
Out of 3 757s, I think there were 4 engine changes, and a brand new 73G was grounded with engine problems. Plus the 2 engines that were taken off one of the 736s....... Surely this is more than just bad luck?
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I take it GSM still haven't found anyone to do their engine trends yet?.
Poor show, and it is still only January....


Again someone not knowing what they are talking about.
EZECM do ALL trend monitoring of GSM fleet they stated that they could not have foreseen the surge event(either of them) as it was a "one off" event, and also GSM have only had 2 engine changes(one not yet performed) the other two aircraft quoted were on wet lease from icelandair.The engine problem onthe 737NG was caused by a manufacturing defect of which CFMI are accepting liability.
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quote:
"Again someone not knowing what they are talking about.
EZECM do ALL trend monitoring of GSM fleet they stated that they could not have foreseen the surge event(either of them) as it was a "one off" event, and also GSM have only had 2 engine changes(one not yet performed) the other two aircraft quoted were on wet lease from icelandair.The engine problem onthe 737NG was caused by a manufacturing defect of which CFMI are accepting liability"

Very good matkat....are you at the sharp end of this "operation"?
Tell me-in your infinite wisdom-how on earth can two engine surges be a "one off" event?obviously,if there were (apparently)two seperate surges then it wasn't a "one-off"event was it??Please explain because where i come from,if the same thing happens more than once then it is not a "one-off" event!
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Old 19th Jan 2008, 18:59
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werent the surge events on two seperate engines, making them "one off" events on each engine ???????
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aahh....D'oh!thanks GW76-old age i guess
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Old 20th Jan 2008, 01:22
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Thansk W Cdr Gibson and luvly jubbly for your replies and explanations. It is too bad the wet-lease had to be cancelled in such way.

Santa Barbara is now leasing a 757 from Icelandair: TF-FIS, which not long ago was flying for Flyglobespan. I hope they get their payments right this time.

Regards, thanks.
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Old 20th Jan 2008, 11:53
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Yes I know that 2 engine changes were on Icelandair aircraft, but GSM had to pay for them!
4 engine changes in 6 months is not good (Plus the NG etc etc)
All on current (or ex Icelandair aircraft).
So.... Do icelandair have problems normally, or is it just when GSM operate the 752s that the problems arise??

I only ask, as I have personally flown every single one of GSM's aircraft except G-CEJM and I don't really fancy more problems in Hamilton this summer!
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Old 20th Jan 2008, 17:32
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Are GSM still planning to get the NEOS 767's back for the summer 2008 to operate the GLA-SFB and Vancover,Calgary flights instead of using there own ?

I take it they have lied to the press by saying that there services to BOS and JFK were returning for the summer 2008 !
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Old 20th Jan 2008, 19:52
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According to Wikipedia, the claim is that GSM will be leasing 2 Neos 767s for summer 2008.Don't know how accurate their info is though.

matkat,thanks for the pm-i tried to reply but i don't think it workedtechnology does not seem to be my friend at the moment
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