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Aero Val 16th Nov 2012 15:51

767 goes on stand 43 (that's the one at 45 degrees to the terminal so it fits !) :ugh:

FYI Still discussion about the 787 not fitting on 43 with aircraft parked on adjacent stands due to wing tip clearance.

almost professional 16th Nov 2012 16:03

43, angled across-putting it there depends on arrival time, as normally it's in at 6ish so those stands are full. Stand 21 otherwise, but pray there's not aB757 on 24L - GMCs worst nightmare!

Burnie5204 16th Nov 2012 19:38

I'm surprised you say that 21 with 24L is a nightmare. Apart from the pull-start aspect I didnt think it affected you much more than any other push-start facing west.

You learn something new every day.

almost professional 16th Nov 2012 20:18

First you have to remember that is the procedure............
Then explain to the crew why they need a tug!

spitfirealex 25th Nov 2012 17:12

Does anyone have an idea or know what is happening to the old BMI maintenance hanger ? Seeing that it has been used to reconfigure old BMI aircraft i presume british airways are going to keep it as their own ?

North Stand Tier3 25th Nov 2012 19:27

Closes for business 31st December with the majority of staff going the same way as most at East Mids from bmi/Baby...

spitfirealex 25th Nov 2012 20:30

Does anyone know who will be taking over the vacated hangar then ?

Burnie5204 26th Nov 2012 12:35

No idea who is taking it over. There is rumour (very much only rumour and conjecture) of either DHL (as they used it for some of their a/c maintenance) or MAEL as part of their expansions.

However, I do know that some of the BMI engineers have been offered jobs with BA Eng at LHR and some are being retrained on airbus by MAEL and taken on at EMA as MAEL line engineers for the MON airframe(s)

ematom1 26th Nov 2012 13:57

News - Local News: Castle Donington, Kegworth and around DE74 (DE74)

know its been mantioned before but heres a new article on the east mids terminal expansion :)

FRatSTN 26th Nov 2012 17:12

Looks great! This is exactly the reason why Stansted should be owned by MAG. They do a great job at investing in all sorts of improvements across their airports and put everything in they can to give passengers the best experience and push hard to make their airports grow. What do BAA do? They sit back and watch them decline whilst they just use them as a way to get a little bit of extra cash for Heathrow.

spitfirealex 26th Nov 2012 17:38

Looks like a very promising development to make the airport more up to date and appealing to customers and business coming to the airport. It mentions a new pier, is this needed or is it for expansion at the airport ? And finally do you think if the airport was renamed Nottingham East Midlands Airport it would bring more visitors to the airport due to the location of Nottingham being better known than East Midlands ?

FRatSTN 26th Nov 2012 18:16

We've all been down that road and it's clear that most people do not like the name "Nottingham East Midlands Airport". I certainly don't. I think the name, apart from sounding horrific, actually sort of restricts the catchment area even more as the airport also serves Leicestershire, Derbyshire, Lincolnshire and South Yorkshire as well as parts of Northamptonshire. East Midlands is a as well used by us in Leicester and those in Derby as by those going to/from Nottingham. I think the current name "East Midlands Airport, Nottingham Leicester Derby" is a fine name and actually gives an even better idea of where the airport is located than just using Nottingham.

I used to hate the days where on the Ryanair website I had to scoll down to find "Nottingham East Midlands". The fact remains, the local people are always going to simply refer to it as East Midlands airport so having the cities included as a sort of extention to the name is far better than just adding one of the major cities nearby in the main name.

spitfirealex 26th Nov 2012 18:37

Being from derby myself I think the current name is a sensible and fair and to call it Nottingham EMA would be unfair as the airport is located on the derbyshire leicestershire border. Has it been made clear where the new "eco friendly" pier will be and whether it will serve new or excisting airlines and whether it will be a long haul, regional or mixed pier ?

pug 26th Nov 2012 18:45


It mentions a new pier
The pier is already built as the article states.

ATNotts 26th Nov 2012 19:47

East Midlands - Where is it?
 
I know this subject has been done to death, and that the over inflated egos of local councilors prevent the airport being given any one city name, but consider for a moment the foreign business person (very PC ay!)?

They know that Birmingham is near Birmingham, Manchester is near Manchester and even Leeds / Bradford clearly serves those two cities. But East Midlands? There's no state boundary for the East Midlands it's a vague geographical area invented locally, and defined to some extent by the BBC and ITV. It's like saying to someone in the UK - where Sachsen Anhalt airport (OK there isn't one - but it's just an example).

Confused by the airport name, you'll plump for flying to a city you might know is close to where you want to be.

If I was going to rename EMA I'd call it Derby / Nottingham - to the intense annoyance of Leicester I don't doubt - but the journey from Leicester is as easy from BHX as it is from EMA.

Calling Birmingham airport West Midlands would be commercial suicide - same goes for East Midlands I'm afraid.

FR- 26th Nov 2012 20:28

Leicester is much closer to EMA than BHX, use to take me 20-25mins from my door to crewroom, and about 40-50mins for BHX. At the end of the day the airport is in Leicestershire, so you can drop all this Nottingham rubbish.

fr-

FRatSTN 26th Nov 2012 20:47

25 minutes from my home just to the south of Leicester to East Midlands airport every time! Although Derby and Nottingham are closer, the fact is, East Midlands Airport is in Leicestershire and at 25 minutes, surely the largest city in the East Midlands region deserves to have its name included in the airport as well as Nottingham and Derby.

Birmingham Airport takes us roughly 45 minutes and can be worse (especially since the M6 is involved!) East Midlands Airport Nottingham Leicester Derby is a fair name for the airport.

Also, there is not so much of a need for a city in the name for identification of it's specific location. It's easier than ever nowadays to just get google maps up on your phone and find it out in about 10 seconds and about 30 seconds and you can plan a route to where it is you need to go. That's something that very few people could do a decade ago!

spitfirealex 26th Nov 2012 20:56

Are we likely to see a route perhaps even only once weekly to america and canada to serve the large workforce of Bombardier and Rolls Royce in derby ? I know canada is very unlikely but why not america ?

BKS Air Transport 26th Nov 2012 21:06

Calling things after regions seems to be a uniquely British habit. I cannot think of a single mainland European airport of significance named after a region/county/area etc. These things do not appear on maps. Similarly, I could not tell you which region Toulouse, Barcelona, Naples, Munich etc are in.

I agree that in the UK this is largely a product of the media who seem so scared of putting anyone's nose out of joint.

At least it's not as bad as Durham Tees Valley though, who have contrived to name their airport after a city that is both smaller and further away than the obvious place it is supposed to serve.

North Stand Tier3 26th Nov 2012 21:54

Burnie
 
All offered the chance to apply for BA at LHR but on less money

No re-training needed on 320s as fairly sure they only have V2500 powered ones with a couple going to BHX for MON but nobody confirmed at EMA

Only rumours re the hangar but do not expect an announcement soon. It is currently being cleared with the last two Airbuses to go this week and the 14th

Fairdealfrank 26th Nov 2012 22:16

Nottingham East Midlands
 
Just be grateful it's not called "Nottingham-Derby (Brian Clough) International Airport".

On the other hand, doesn't EMA have a better claim to the name "Robin Hood" than DSA, Sherwood Forest is in Nottinghamshire, not Yorkshire.

Local Variation 26th Nov 2012 22:17

Errr....no.

EMA is in Leicestershire :ugh:

johnnychips 26th Nov 2012 22:40


doesn't EMA have a better claim to the name "Robin Hood" than DSA
DSA is about two miles from Nottinghamshire; is nearer to the Major Oak than EMA; Robin Hood had connections with Barnsdale in north Doncaster and Loxley in Sheffield. Haven't exactly seen tourists flocking here just because of the name though! The statue of him at the airport is superb - shame we haven't got a few more passengers to see it.

Fairdealfrank 26th Nov 2012 23:33

Quote: "DSA is about two miles from Nottinghamshire; is nearer to the Major Oak than EMA; Robin Hood had connections with Barnsdale in north Doncaster and Loxley in Sheffield. Haven't exactly seen tourists flocking here just because of the name though! The statue of him at the airport is superb - shame we haven't got a few more passengers to see it."

Thanks for the info, johnnychips. Never realised that DSA is so close to Notts, thought Finningley was north of Doncaster, thanks for the geography lesson!

Also had no idea that there's a statue of Robin Hood at the airport. Have to see it soon!!

BTW, a nice line in redistribution of wealth, was Robin Hood the world's first socialist?

Burnie5204 27th Nov 2012 00:54

North Stand Tier3
 
There are definately some destined for EMA as the engineer doing MON line work is (or was, i've not been on site for just over a week) a BHX engineer lodging at Thistle Hotel on-site "until the BMI engineers that have been hired are trained to work on the Monarch fleet"

ATNotts 27th Nov 2012 08:31

The airport's name!
 
The last few posts around this subject prove pretty conclusively that there is too much petty localism in the East Midlands!

As a Brummie by birth I have no axe to grind.

sunday8pm 27th Nov 2012 15:23

We had a windy night on Thursday last week and a couple of incoming were diverted - one I know went into BHX. FR used their spare aircraft for the evening KRK departure. Anyone have info on any more?

VC10man 27th Nov 2012 16:28

>>>>>BTW, a nice line in redistribution of wealth, was Robin Hood the world's first socialist?


No Frank, socialists take from everyone and give it to themselves.:rolleyes:

Rhino power 2nd Dec 2012 00:36

Nice to see EMA become an alternative for RAF Brize Norton this weekend, a few interesting visitors there today for a change! :ok:

-RP

spitfirealex 2nd Dec 2012 16:44


Nice to see EMA become an alternative for RAF Brize Norton this weekend, a few interesting visitors there today for a change!
any pics ?

cornishsimon 2nd Dec 2012 17:01



Nice to see EMA become an alternative for RAF Brize Norton this weekend, a
few interesting visitors there today for a change!

What diverted ?

Also on while im on the EMA thread, still no sign of anyone stepping into the EMA-NQY route ?


cs

ematom1 2nd Dec 2012 18:35

Main APRON
*
G-TCCB - TCX - 767 (Garuda titles)
*
Cargo West
CS TQL - HFY - 340
N704CK - CKS - 747
RA82077- POT - 124
PH-AHX - TUI - 767 (Arke Fly c/s)
G-MONK - MON - 757
RAF A330 voyager
*

OltonPete 2nd Dec 2012 19:14

Monarch
 
Not sure if it has been reported but the Monarch Malaga on a Tuesday next summer has now been taken off sale to make way for the new Malta service.

flybe - Jersey times seem to have changed to 11.10 dep Monday - Friday and back at 17.50.

However the Amsterdam still leaves early afternoon and appears to be an East Mids based aircraft still.

I assume the Jersey changed due to Manchester - Jersey moving to the 175 whereas the Q400 switched in Jersey with the Southampton aircraft, which were both Q400's.

None of the other destinations such as EDI, GLA or BHD have changed such as operating from the East Mids base but I assume something is up.

flybe's brand new 175 delivered Friday is starting ABZ-MAN-JER-MAN-ABZ-MAN. I thought EMA would have received the next 175 for CDG or failing that BHX-STR or HAJ.

Pete

Fairdealfrank 2nd Dec 2012 20:23

Quote: "No Frank, socialists take from everyone and give it to themselves"

Isn't that communism, VC10man?

fmgc 11th Dec 2012 17:25

EMA Greasy Spoon
 
About 15 years ago I used to go to East Midlands for my sim checks.

There used to be a really good greasy spoon near the sim centre. Does anybody know if it is still there or not?

FlyboyUK 11th Dec 2012 17:47

If you're referring to the runway cafe up by the BMI hangar, it was still going when I was last up that way

fmgc 11th Dec 2012 17:50

It wasn't much more than a portacabin.

Going up there tomorrow. First time in ages. Fancy a good fry up.

almost professional 11th Dec 2012 18:43

Runway cafe still there, still good eats, though has just changed hands - won't stop us going after nights tho!

fmgc 12th Dec 2012 22:48

Had a very good fry up at the Runway Cafe this morning, thanks guys.

Sonic Bam 13th Dec 2012 20:28

bmi hangar closing next week will hurt them. :sad:


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