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new rail service
From sun 13/12/09 new direct rail service from Sheffield to East midlands Parkway each hour, must be now best route for south yorkshire folk and better service to a airport than others, Has DSA is more trouble to get to is this to be EMA big move on yorkshire folk.
Made my first visit to East Midlands Parkway on a charter train to Edinburgh on sat 12/12/09 looks a nice station and handle our 11 coach and 2 locos very well. regards stuart |
Anyone who knows what airlines (and their a/c) have an overnight at EMA?
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FR 7 a/c not as many as people wanted.
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W09
4x B733, 1x B735 (bmibaby) 3x A319 (easyjet (until Jan 10)) 7x B73H (Ryanair (according to FR-, I believe it is 6 though)) 2x B73H (Thomson Airways) 2x A320 (Thomas Cook Airlines) 1x J41 (Eastern Airways) 1x E135/145 (bmi) S10 Upto 8 B733, B735 (bmibaby) Upto 9 B73H (Ryanair) 2x B752, 1x B73H (Thomson Airways) 2x A320 (Thomas Cook Airlines) 1x B752 (Jet2.com) 1x E145 (bmi) 1x J41 (Eastern Airways) |
Thanks guys, this will be a great help!
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Stuart, you're right the rail connection will tempt Yorkshire folk, but the Anytime and Offpeak fares from Sheffield are no cheaper than to MAN. Journey times once you include the bus are likely to be similar to Sheffield -> MAN and unlike MAN the first trains of the day aren't early enough to safely make any flight before 8am.
As for DSA, well it would be nice if an airport that carries Sheffield's name had any direct bus or train link with the city :D |
BMI ema
Oliww is the bmi airbus still planned for ema this summer on charter to
Goldtrail and others. regards stuart |
Routes and cheap fares tempt people, not stations or rail links. You might look for the airport/route first, then the fare and then work out how you're going to get there. Unless you live round the corner from the station, you still have to get there in the first place and how are you going to do that? Public transport, taxi ... maybe a mate if you're lucky, and then you have the hassle of getting back. Get a taxi and it'll like as not be door to door service, you pay for it but it is easily more convenient than lugging your cases on and off trains etc.
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stuart-travel: I am unsure at the moment, their website doesn't seem to want to work for me for the past 2 weeks, its been unable to find the correct pages, or just not worked. Not very good, as it happens on different computers I've been on as well. I don't think it is true for May, Jun, but we may see another A320/A321 operating charters in July/Aug again for 2010.
Can we come to expect any new routes from FR for 2010. Fuerteventura is back, so possibly this, now just 1x with TCX and TOM, compared to 2009 where it was 2x TCX and 1x TOM, so I think pax are there. Porto? Stockholm? Madrid? Trapani? Seville? |
I'd assume bmi charter were coming back for at least July and August, as for those two months they're supposed to be operating a weekly TFS, DLM, ACE, LPA and CFU for Thomas Cook, not sure of the equipment or the days though. On top of this TCX won't be flying from EMA to ALC or AGP this summer instead using capacity on bmibaby flights twice a week. Finally, on top of the 2 based A320s, on a Monday there should be a 757 positioning in from MAN to do a SSH.
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tom summer 2010
hey all the thomson schedule has been released for 2010 showing ema 2x737 1x757w also the bmi airbus for goldtrail seats are now on sale with several flight brokers with the same flight numbers as per web site
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In essence, it's exactly the same as what DSA has - get a train to a station, and wait for a bus. East Mids Parkway will have 1 train per hour from Sheffield, Doncaster station has about 6 or so. The buses from EMP to EMA are every half an hour and take 15 minutes - buses from Doncaster Interchange (attached to the station) are about every 15 minutes and take about 20-25 minutes. If anything, if the sole reason for choosing an airport was based on rail links, I (still) think DSA wins hands down (out of DSA and EMA, rather than all airports!).
Still, for EMA, I still think it's far quicker (and cheaper) to get off at Derby (from the North) or Loughborough (South) and get the Skylink, as what was originally there before. I understand East Midlands Parkway station was intended first to be a "park and ride" to London, Nottingham etc. and as an airport station second. |
If we had a joined up transport policy in the UK they would have diverted the rail track through East Midlands Airport and had a station there.
No need then for shuttle buses and the challenges of crossing the M1 roundabout with all the congestion which is ever present there! |
BMI summer flights
One reason why I don't think they will operate is because on Goldtrail, no matter where the destination, the flight times do not change, its always 08:30 departure and 17:30 arrival... but then on the other hand, the flight number changes?
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Well Done EMA.
A Big Well done :D to all the staff at the airport. Snow Clearers. Fire Crew. Ops And ATC. For keeping the airfield open this evening. Only a 40 min closure for snow clearing and abit later on a 20min closure for DeIcing. Lost very little if anything.
Well Done Guys:ok: |
TOM7457 ACE-EMA Thursday 7/1/09
Can someone please enlighten me as I am fairly new to the EMA area.
Do TOM have 3 planes based at EMA this winter? My parents are due back tomorrow on TOM7457 from ACE but looking at the EMA website there are obviously significant delays due to the horrendous weather the UK has been experiencing. TOM7219 ALC now due in 7/1 1335 (24 hr delay) TOM7345 FUE now due in 7/1 0235 (8 hr 20 min delay) TOM7319 PFO now due in 7/1 1310 (18 hr 35 delay) They are from Newcastle and so have a hotel booked in Nottingham for tomorrow night - I dont want them to waste money so Im thinking should they be looking to cancel it as it appears unlikely that these aircraft are going to make up significant time in 24 hours. Tomorrows flights are GOI, SSH and ACE by the looks of it. Any ideas gratefully received and well done to all airport staff for keeping it running to the best they can. |
would have
Looks like they are in a pickle and it's difficult to hesitate a guess on what will happen tommorrow (that might sound strange but when the disruption is this bad it's true) looking at the flights I would say the GOA will go first as due out at 0030 tommorrow am then the SSH and your ACE go out tomorrow afternoon. The earliest they would be back is say plane leaves EMA 1430 into ACE 1830 1 hr turn 1930 back into EMA 2330 APROX TIMES. However The aircraft have to get back into EMA tonight then back out and come back tommorrow. Weather permitting, crew permitting. However, it depends on the state of the Thomson aircraft around the UK you could find your parents turn up tomorrow and get shipped to somewhere else and road it to EMA, or they might throw a spare aircraft into EMA and it goes on time. Whatever happens your in good hands. If ACE has a departure board on it's web site keep an eye on it first Good luck :\ |
TOM7219 was due in at 21:15 on Tuesday, but is now due 13:35 on Thursday, a little more than 24 hour, it operates a W pattern on a Tuesday to DSA, but got diverted to NCL, and then since that period has been late ever since, that was on G-CDZM
TOM7345 was due back at EMA from FUE tonight at 17:15, but only departed at as TOM7344 at 20:08, this is because G-CDZM is somewhere other than EMA, so had to wait for a LGW aircraft to become available, but with LGW being closed nearly all day, only got to EMA at 19:00, that is now due back at EMA at 05:20 - G-CDZI TOM7318 was surpose to depart at 08:05, from what I can remember, im sure this departed at around 11 this morning, so am not sure why it has such a long delay... TOM0172 to Goa should be on time, most airports are open now, though if it is coming of a LGW aircraft which is likely, might not leave till around 5am, it may come from the BHX G-OBYI, if so, wont depart until at lease 7.30am Regarding ACE, I'm pretty sure things should be back to normal tomorrow, at EMA anyway, nightmare at MAN and LGW at the mo. Thomson usually put SSH on one of the winglet B738's, but it depends, G-CDZI will most likely be at EMA before the SSH departure tomorrow, so it will most likely do that first because it is a longer route, and would cause a heavier delay. G-FDZE will be back from PFO at around 13:15 all being well, so ACE would depart on that at around 14:30 all being well. So it could go at either time, depending on crew positions around the UK and aircrafts. I feel sorry for the crew who were dropped off at NCL yesterday!! |
Oliww
I'm only a closet spotter I bow to your knowledge and information ! :\ I think also ACE closes at night I may be wrong |
Mr Angry, pretty sure that you are correct regarding ACE being shut at night :ok:
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Are my eyes deceiving me or are there some grey Tristars at EMA today? What gives?
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Took a RAF flight from Akrotiri.
Not sure why didn't divert to BHX |
Are my eyes deceiving me or are there some grey Tristars at EMA today? What gives? A |
Freaky and quite scary
Hi Guys
Well just had a quick look at EMA dept and Arrivals screen for today. How scary EMA are now ? Almost approx 90% of there business is now FR..... So if FR ever pulled out, it would be a disaster, really hit me this morning when i looked at the screens and it was just FR, shame EZY Went. |
Not sure about your maths at 90% but its a big chunk of the daily movements for sure!!, shame about Easy, walking through to the old Easy Jet check in area this morning, i see that the airport wasted no time in taking down the Easy Jet sign, Just says Ryanair and Prayer area!! says it all really
I think when Miss Money Penny sits down with the Ryanair commercial team the tail will be wagging the dog and Ryanair will want pay back for MAG at Manchester I think by the time this year is over EMA will have no more paxs than they did two years ago with Easy & baby, be over relient on Ryanair pax who i am told spend little in the terminal or car parks plus alot less ground based jobs (check in-customer service) reap what you sow Let it snow let it snow |
People must have expected EZY to leave, the only stage which I thought they might stay is when they release PMI and BCN...
It is quiet because of the winter, today was slow at EMA, no Thomson flights today, and only 1 TCX flight, usually it would be 2x TOM and 2x TCX, Wed is just quiet For the summer, Jet2 will be at Desks 33-36 so will be woken up a bit down there in the Ryanair Zone, hopefully in for a busier summer than last, yes EZY have left, but there will be 3 more WW on the ground, Viking flights a few days a week, LS with a B757 and FR upto 8 aircraft? so should be quite a busy summer |
OliWW,
Where have you heard about 8 poss FR 738's from??? I havent heard anything and have contacts in the development team? We will be lucky getting 7 in lik last summer. Cheers |
summer 2010
I see now Goldtrail have corrected their flight programme from EMA and flights to HER/KGS/RHO/ZTH all now with viking airlines as per kiss programme, Goldtrail have withdrawn from other airports on their Greek programme.
Just checked RYANAIR programme for a sat 5/6/10 and still shows 8 aircraft required, but if the BHD flight was altered to a 06.35 dep it would fit in with AGP at 09.25 . regards stuart |
Last time I checked the timetable, which was around Christmas, there was 9 aircraft needed on a Saturday...
Murcia Belfast City Rome Valencia Malaga Riga Ibiza Tenerife Nantes But im pretty sure they will move BHD to 06:25 so that it is able to fit the 09:25 AGP flight. From that i can remember, 9 aircraft were also needed on a Mon? and a Wed? but I believe they wouldnt increase to 9, and so think it will be 8 :ok: |
oliww ; VLC no longer is a sat dep others as per your thread,
new for summer 2010 I.O.M is twice daily on a wed other days daily. regards stuart |
new for summer 2010 I.O.M is twice daily on a wed other days daily. |
Dec pax & 2009
Source: CAA
December 2009 263517 - 16% 2009 4653195 - 17.1% Like BHX, I think it will best not too look too hard at the January figures when published next month. Pete |
On inspection of the ryanair site tonight the saturday morning flights are to the following
Murcia Belfast City Rome Dublin 0635/0735 0800/0900 Malaga 0925?? Riga Ibiza Tenerife Nantes Everyone missed out the dublin flight - to the home of ryanair |
summer 2010
oliww ; when i checked the i.o.m a few weeks ago the programme i looked at was showing twice daily wed and daily others days, I have checked this a/m and see your correct and also see flight time changes for a sat/sun.
owen ; When i checked the ryanair programme on the 14/1/10 a/m it was only showing a p/m flight on a sat to and from DUB, good news as this now shows 8 aircraft required for summer 2010, the thread did quote a extra 2 aircraft for summer timetable. regards stuart |
FR 2010
Ive been through all the timetable again for the last week in May and first week in June. I'll show all the flights returning in at the end of every day, it explains everything...
Monday FR1413 21:05 Belfast City FR0536 21:55 Dublin FR4459 22:15 Malaga FR1625 22:20 Lodz FR1663 22:35 Budapest FR7623 22:45 Rzeszow FR1639 22:55 Berlin FR7563 23:05 Marrakesh FR1925 23:15 Murcia Tuesday FR6611 15:05 Palma FR1707 18:15 Pisa FR9084 18:45 Alicante FR1413 21:05 Belfast City FR0536 21:55 Dublin FR4459 22:15 Malaga FR1767 22:35 Faro FR1925 23:20 Murcia Wednesday FR3163 17:15 Las Palmas FR1613 19:10 Carcassonne FR1413 21:05 Belfast City FR4459 22:15 Malaga FR1683 22:15 Bergerac FR1625 22:20 Lodz FR1925 23:15 Murcia Thursday FR1767 18:25 Faro FR1413 21:05 Belfast City FR0536 21:55 Dublin FR4459 22:15 Malaga FR7563 23:05 Marrakesh FR1663 23:10 Budapest FR1925 23:25 Murcia Friday FR1413 21:05 Belfast City FR7623 21:40 Rzeszow FR0536 21:55 Dublin FR4459 22:15 Malaga FR1625 22:20 Lodz FR1639 22:55 Berlin FR1925 23:15 Murcia FR0536 23:30 Dublin Saturday - Departures instead, is easier to see FR1664 06:10 Riga FR6706 06:30 Murcia FR0535 06:35 Dublin FR9407 06:50 Ibiza FR1634 07:15 Nantes FR3152 07:20 Tenerife FR9652 07:30 Rome FR0121 07:30 Belfast City Sunday FR9388 06:30 Girona FR9085 06:35 Alicante FR0535 06:35 Dublin FR3152 07:00 Tenerife FR0121 07:30 Belfast City FR3162 07:40 Las Palmas FR6601 08:30 Palma FR1742 09:10 Knock This is from what I can see, Rimini, Reus, Bydgoscsz arent available at this time... Mon = 9 Aircraft Tue = 8 Aircraft Wed = 7 Aircraft Thu = 7 Aircraft Fri = 8 Aircraft Sat = 8 Aircraft Sun = 8 Aircraft So the majority are 8, most likely to be 8 all together... |
Ryanair
OliWW
I am not sure it means anything with Ryanair. BHX was similar until last week with 5 based aircraft required, 6 on some days and 7 on another. What happened last week, frequencies were cut drastically on some routes and Faro became a Faro based aircraft one of the days. Net result it appears to be four based again (although you never know) and less flights than 2009 due to the Canaries flights utilizing the aircraft for longer. The difference between BHX and EMA though is that BHX operators are cutting back or stagnant but EMA you have Jet2 and Baby increasing. Therefore they might see things differently and fight fire with fire at EMA and no need to do anything at BHX. I would keep an eye on the booking engine. Pete |
EMA has a Faro based aircraft arrive on a Wed, which is extra to what was there a few weeks ago...
From what I can see, it doesn't look like they are cutting back, especially in the Canaries, LPA 2x Weekly, ACE 2x Weekly, TFS 3x Weekly < TFS has one extra flight compared to 2009 I think FR have seen the competition from WW and LS and are trying to match their expansion as well |
ryanair-reus
flights are now operating on tuesdays and saturdays we have just recieved a email about the change we now depart at 16.55 on tues and return sat 15.30 so that would allow mid morning dep on sat and a evening return on tues
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Dc8 AID Flight.
The 1st Aid flight arrived EMA this afternoon. Due out later. Probably a few more to come over the next week.
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ryanair
alot of the flights have been altered again with all faro flights for the summer now operating on portugese based aircraft also on saturday at the moment showing 7 based aircraft as nantes has moved to early evening been informed that palma will be going daily from may it seems evey week there are changes to there timetable
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