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OliWW 20th Oct 2009 15:16

Ah right, no problems

OliWW 22nd Oct 2009 10:11

Ryanair on a Saturday looks like this, taken from the 29th May, showing 8 based units, 8 aircraft are also arriving on a Wednesday evening, but from what I can see, every other day needs 7 aircraft

06:10 Riga
06:30 Murcia
06:50 Ibiza
07:15 Nantes
07:20 Tenerife
07:30 Belfast City
07:30 Rome
07:40 Valencia

SAM-EMA 22nd Oct 2009 14:53

According to AirDB:

Restarted:Nottingham, East Midlands (EMA) to Bratislava, M. R. Stefanika (BTS)
Restarted:Nottingham, East Midlands to Prague, Ruzyne (PRG)
Restarted:Nottingham, East Midlands to Rimini, Miramare (RMI)

With these, and the other Summer routes still to be added, the 8th a/c may well be needed all week?

SAM-EMA

stuart-travel 22nd Oct 2009 16:05

Ryanir 2010
 
with riga added at 06.10am on a sat i make that now 9 aircraft needed if the 09.25am to agp is correct.

regards
stuart

BOAC4ME 22nd Oct 2009 18:34

Just what EMA needs :rolleyes: Ryanair increasing their 'power', when will regional airports realise that the 'all eggs in one basket' policy only benefits one party, and when they have had enough or decide to throw their toys out the pram, where are they then? Everyone seems determined to join the 'race to the bottom', to be fair the trend has already started and is very difficult to back out of now, they are being held to ransome as we all know, but there is very little they can do about it now.

commit aviation 22nd Oct 2009 20:15

I'd take the schedules with a pinch of salt - no doubt the times will be revised prior to S10. Some routes may get reversed and operate on non-based aircraft which could also resolve the situation.

potash 23rd Oct 2009 20:27

Price differance
 
It just goes to show when fr has very little competion on a rout it whacks the charges up
ie east mids 23 dec return 6 jan ema to tenerife £329.67

bhx departs 27 dec return 7 jan £183.17

monarch have 6 flights per week to tenerife ex bhx

OliWW 26th Oct 2009 14:55

Will EMA have to have any work done on any stands for S10?

Aircraft
9x FR (Estimated for a Saturday)
8x WW
3x TOM (2x B73H, 1x B752 OR 2x B752, 1x B73H??)
2x TCX
1x BD
1x T3
1x LS (possible 2 if Libra Holidays is correct)

27 or 28 stands can be used at any one time??

Shed-on-a-Pole 26th Oct 2009 15:40

Hi Potash,

It is unusual for me to defend Ryanair, but I must point out that the two departure dates you quote fall either side of Christmas. You are not comparing like with like in the example you have posted. Demand for the 23rd and 27th December is very different.

Cheers, SHED.

BOAC4ME 31st Oct 2009 16:52

Will EMA have to have any work done on any stands for S10?
 
I suggest not, would only be a POTENTIAL problem if all flights were slot one, which they will not be. A lot of the scheduled LS flights depart mid morning, same for regional and the charter A/C willl not all operate same times (Libra will probably operate on VIK). EMA should worry about having enough business to make PAX operations worthwile, not worry about having too much, EMA is FAR from over capacity!
At least the 'turn EMA into a shopping centre with a few aircraft' project is full steam ahead!! ;)

Mr Airtours 31st Oct 2009 22:30

Shopping Centre ,I think not.

paul atkins 1st Nov 2009 13:16

runway extension
 
article in the leicester mercury yesterday quotes the runway extension will be given the green light this week with some limits to flights departing between 11pm and 7am it does not say what limits will be set

NJTCF 4th Nov 2009 03:14

Runway Extension.
 
Finally permission was given on the runway extension by NW Leics CC last Night:ok:

Just Hope we get some new apron laid aswell we might need them:)

Since the DHL 767 have replaced the Md11s Noise levels have decreased. Which is good news and should help the airport against any flight restrictions between 11pm and 7am.....

BOAC4ME 4th Nov 2009 11:12

"Shopping Centre ,I think not"
 
LOL, ok good point but I didnt say it was a good one :ok: It goes without saying that the industry is in very hard times indeed, however to have a situation whereby most announcements the Airport make are about Improved Duty Free facilities and new airside shopping and catering facilities probably says a lot. Correct me if I am wrong but the last Airline before Jet2 to announce EMA as a new base was 7 years ago (Ryanair in 2002), hard times or not that is a little sad. Hopefully better times ahead for an Airport with a lot to offer.

BHX5DME 20th Nov 2009 12:22

EMA Px up 2.4% in October
 
492,016 UP 2.4%, first positive month for a while !

Boeing Junkie 20th Nov 2009 12:29

BOAC4ME
 
Have you seen the promo video for the airport starring Lewis Moody? Focus squarely on shopping there

OltonPete 20th Nov 2009 20:03

October 2009
 
Both BHX5DME and I think we might have discovered a major flaw
in these figures.................................they don't add up.

The mass majority of the individual routes are down and when
added together they make about 412000!!!!

So I assume some number trouble at East Mids or someone
at the CAA has copied the figures incorrectly.

It looks more like 14% down!

Pete

INKJET 21st Nov 2009 09:18

Looking at the car (empty) parks i would have thought it was well down on last year and for sure November will be much worse with a lot of baby & Ryanair aircraft parked up nearly all day.

Just well really, the Ryanair stand 41 incident on Thursday would have been far worse had there been passengers boarding or a GPU attached, in the event just red faces:\:\:\:\:\

OliWW 21st Nov 2009 12:34

What happened, I heard someone talking about it, but missed what it was about?

INKJET 21st Nov 2009 13:31

A gust of wind weathcocked it around from 090 to 230 degree's now it wasn't that windy, max about 40knts from SW

So a 40 tonne aircraft chocked, dry concrete and 40knts? no way!!

However if the park brake isn't set ermmmm?:\:\:\:\:\

FR- 21st Nov 2009 14:02

The aircraft wasn't chocked correct.

INKJET 21st Nov 2009 15:07

Chocked correctly or not there is no way it would weather cock through 140 degree's, if the park brake was set add to which there are no tire/tyre drag marks on what was clean dry concrete, perhaps they were MOL lowcost chocks or confiscated Tobrolone bars from passengers¬¬¬ he he

Centre cities 21st Nov 2009 17:35

Didnt the samething happen to a Slovak 757 at BHX a couple of years ago.


Centre cities

BOAC4ME 23rd Nov 2009 09:02

Lewis Moody Ad
 
Yes Boeing Junkie that's a great example, if such time and effort was spent in other area's then maybe there would have been a few more new base announcements and a few less new coffee shop announcements over the years.

I dont claim to have an MBA in Business Management however one equation seems obvious to me;

NO AIRLINES = NO PAX = NO AIRPORT (INCLUDING SHOPS)

:ugh:

FR- 23rd Nov 2009 09:52

Seems odd that BRS and LPL have same ryanair base manager as EMA but no new routes as of yet. Guess we will have to wait untill wednesday.

SAM-EMA 23rd Nov 2009 10:56

Why? What's happening on Wednesday?

Thanks
SAM-EMA

Alvechurch 23rd Nov 2009 18:16

Hmm, I see the EMA passenger stat for October has been removed from the CAA provisional list.
It looks as if Olton Pete may have been correct and they were too high. :uhoh:

BHX5DME 24th Nov 2009 12:17

The CAA have done a recount and EMA was down 13.3% not up 2.4% as previously posted - 416,496 pax

757 Speedbrakes 27th Nov 2009 14:34

Any news on who will be handling Jet2 from May?

BOAC4ME 27th Nov 2009 14:46

Jet 2 have appointed Menzies as GH agents for S10.

757 Speedbrakes 27th Nov 2009 16:50

Thanks :ok:

dionysius 2nd Dec 2009 10:29

Hi can someone inform me which handling agents handle which airlines at EMA ??

Any Servisair EMA dispatchers on here please send me a pm as I have a question ??

Many thks:ok:

BOAC4ME 2nd Dec 2009 11:34

Current EMA Handling Agreements
 
The current handling agreements are: (changes possible in the near future)

Servisair:

Ryanair
Thomson Airways
Thomas Cook Airlines
Eurocypria
BH Air
Hamburg International
Koral Blue
Futura

Menzies:

Easyjet (until end date)
Eastern Airways
Manx2.com
Jet 2
BMI Baby / Regional (Baggage & Ramp)

Think thats about it, obviously Easyjet are pulling out and Thomson Airways contract is currently under tender.

OliWW 2nd Dec 2009 14:54

Thomson will always stay at Servisair, over the UK it is either Servisair or Swissport, so Menzies, I doubt it!

BOAC4ME 2nd Dec 2009 15:57

Hey OliWW, i'm not claiming to know anything you dont but as much as what you said is true, they decide the contracts on a 'local' basis and if it were the case that either a) they were dissatisfied with any element of Servisair's performance or b) they are using this as a cost cutting excersize then who knows. There is no swissport at EMA, so at the end of the day if either of the above are true then there is only one other option.

You may well be right, but it certainly wouldnt shock me if it went to Menzies but who knows, I guess we will find out soon. There are many people/handling agents/airlines up and down the country who have fallen victim to complacency over the last few years.

Mr Angry from Purley 2nd Dec 2009 18:06

Astar DC8-73 coming in from CVG tonight stopping for 24hr obo DHL. Camera at
the ready :\:\

NutLoose 4th Dec 2009 02:22


I see the 'Fun Police' have been in action at EMA, nice big 6ft high green sheeting going up along the fence adjacent to crash gate 3/spotters lane/diseworth road - call it what you will. I can just imagine the conversation in 'Fun Police' HQ " there's people over there minding there own business and enjoying themselves, we must put a stop to this at once!"...
Rhino Power,

They are building a new viewing mound at the top of the aeropark on that side of the gate, So I would imagine it is to do with that to stop making a big mess other side of the fence, the build is in progress as we speak.. Suprising in this economic climate, so I've got to applaud them for going ahead with it..

F14 4th Dec 2009 06:19

The CEO of EMA was on working lunch yesterday. Bright red hair, but she did seem to have the right ideas :ok:

OliWW 11th Dec 2009 21:05

news
 
  • Ryanair have finally released WRO, 4x Weekly
  • bmibaby are introducing 3x EDI and GLA Mon-Fri now and not just Thu - Fri for S10
  • Jet2 have also released flights to TFS for W10/11, operates 2-3x weekly, depending on month

airhumberside 12th Dec 2009 13:10

Jet 2 timetable shows TFS as Fridays only this winter, with extra flights during the Christmas/New Year period only


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