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stuart-travel 27th Apr 2010 09:30

bmibaby ema-jer 2011
My company is for 2011 added ema-jersey holidays STUART TRAVEL UK is to operate coaches into ema from 10 towns and cites to the south of the airport, has the number of pick ups may be not to early from towns in Northamptonshire and Warwickshire area is any person with bmibaby planning as to flight plans on 2011 route, we hope they keep to the 2010 flight plan to jersey.


INKJET 27th Apr 2010 22:35

say again in English?
STU Travel

bmibaby wont fly to JER to early if that what your asking? crack of sparrows into JER is a risk at any time of the year for fog and low cloud so expect a 10: to 10:30 depature returning around around 14:30 (after the aircraft has been to BOH and back) the profile of JER pax fits well with the TLC that they will get from bmibaby cabin crew and people with RPM are made to feel welcome not a pain in the arse.

NutLoose 27th Apr 2010 23:39

Don't write the 76 off yet......... ;)




Wonder who thought up the scheme?????? :p






HeliCraig 28th Apr 2010 08:25

NutLoose: Whats the relevance of those pics? Are they old aircraft refitted, or something else? I'm confused!! :bored:

stuart-travel 28th Apr 2010 09:24

ema-jer 2011
to put it into english, as our first pick up is Daventry to have a early dep from EMA would give us a very early dep from Daventry and the prescent times fron EMA are good for our clients.


Little Blue 28th Apr 2010 09:29

They are all ex-bmi or baby a/c.
Maybe the 767 will get a nice new shiny paintjob, shortly.
And there goes that flying pig !

NutLoose 28th Apr 2010 09:44

NutLoose: Whats the relevance of those pics? Are they old aircraft refitted, or something else? I'm confused!!
The 737's are TOYA TOYB and TOYC all now Ex BMI Baby
The 3 A321's are MEDE MIDL and MIDR again all BMI handbacks, all are going through East Mids at the same time with the fleet reductions.

stuart-travel 29th Apr 2010 15:50

Thomas Cook summer 2011
3 new destinations from EMA summer 2011
EMA-HRG TUE 13.50 WED 02.30 TCX aircraft
EMA-FNC MON 07.45 MON 16.25 TOM aircraft joint tom/tcx holidays
EMA-ADB WED 17.30 WED 16.15 TCX aircraft


OliWW 29th Apr 2010 16:34

Thomson have released their flights today... Punta Cuna and Puerto Plata are visible, but no Orlando?... Zante has moved to a Tuesday, Naples to a Monday, Funchal is new for the summer season, and thats about it

gulf papa 29th Apr 2010 20:21

What no orlando i was looking to go on that next year:{

odogo2 30th Apr 2010 10:11

AN 225
Any news if the 225 is visiting this weekend?many people keen to see it

Centre cities 30th Apr 2010 15:50

Reference ORLANDO and the Domincan, Orlando shows from BHX but Dominican does not, perhaps they are operating certain destinations from BHX/EMA so as not to split the customer base.

Centre cities

NJTCF 1st May 2010 01:36

An225 + Dc8 + Thomson.
Sadly heard nothing on the An225:( But have heard theres a 9G Dc8 in around lunch today:ok:.

I have never understood why thomson put most of there eggs in the birmingham basket. EMA is a very easy airport to get to and fly from.

OliWW 1st May 2010 10:18

I don't understand why they have got rid of Goa for the winter coming up, it is a very popular route!! Orlando has operated since 2005 and has been a massive hit, Puerto Plata and Punta Cuna operated for some time, but never seemed very popular, so they moved the flights else where, so I cannot understand why bring back the D.Republic flights, and get rid of Orlando

OltonPete 1st May 2010 11:10


Not sure what you mean by "eggs all in one basket" at BHX. BHX was down-graded at first this summer with a 73H replacing a 757 but luckily Thomson must have noticed the lack seats in general from BHX this summer and have now added a 763 high density in place of a 757 from 20/05/2010.

Goa operated every week full from BHX and it was moved/consolidated to EMA and never came back.

Dominican Republic has now been dropped from BHX but kept from EMA.

Orlando/Sanford seems to have been dropped from EMA but BHX has not taken it and I doubt it is to sure up the BHX flight as it is constantly full at steep fares unless they intend to add a second weekly but nothing bookable as yet.

It just sounds as if Thomson are making sure the Midlands market is not saturated although I agree the Sanford is surprising considering the number of seats available in general from London/Manchester/Glasgow. Just one flight a week from the Midlands a week seems pathetic.


Goa - as I said above BHX was always full so it has got to be yields, too many last minute discount packages probably but who knows?

As for the Dominican Republic, if there was one week long-haul from
BHX it was this one and lets hope that this will boost EMA's flight.


FR- 5th May 2010 19:07

Anyone know the line of flying for Viking, noticed todays Kos is delayed due to the greeks, does this a/c come from BRS?
VIK93117:20KosWait in lounge
VIK93117:20KosWait in lounge

sam1993 5th May 2010 19:42

It is operated by a Bristol based aircraft! :ok:

Mike16 8th May 2010 08:11

Hi Guys

I do hope everyone is well. I dropped my Cousin off this morning at EMA as he is off to Teneriffe with his mates for a weeks partying, lucky sod. lol

Whilst i was there, there are a hell of a lot of Ryanair flights cancelled dept and arr, Does anyone know why ? i am not talking 1 or 2 i mean a lot.

Take care

FR- 8th May 2010 09:23

The crew are having another VDO, look on www.ryanair.com for the latest updates. Trust it to be all the good sales flights :ugh:

classic-hunter- 8th May 2010 09:31

Bit of a knee jerk response from FR i think, the cloud chart shows some volcanic ash but as far away as ALC?PMI?! Hmmmmm I know baby are still operating theirs

FR- 8th May 2010 09:39

Well I don't work in ops but still safety comes first as always. With regards to Baby, WW have cancelled a few flights. Might even pick up a few of FR pax.

While were on the subject of FR/WW has anyone looked into the pax loads on EMA-Belfast?

befree 8th May 2010 11:36

When a FR flight is cancelled the PAX have to mess around trying to get their money back. FR will make on those who cannot be bothered to go though the hoops. Those who rebook get counted again as new seats booked. This is how FR can claim to carry 17% more pax in April 2010 when the carried less. They are evil.

anna_list 8th May 2010 12:13

Ema-bfs / Bhd

EMA - Belfast is an interesting battle: To be honest, it doesn't look like much of a contest, but despite this, Baby seem to be refusing to give up.

According to the CAA:

Ryanair's market share on EMA - Belfast has grown from 51% in 2008, to 63% last year and then to a very dominant 74% for the first 3 months of this year.

In 2008, Ryanair carried an average of 101 passengers per flight on EMA-BHD, increasing to 106 last year and falling back to 91 in the first 3 months of this year (down by about 6 per flight compared to the same period last year).

Baby carried an average of 90 passengers per flight in 2007 before Ryanair entered the market. This fell to 77 passengers per flight in 2008, but increased to 78 per flight in 2009 (following a 23% reduction in capacity). In the first 3 months of this year, an average of 57 passengers flew on each bmiBaby flight on EMA-BFS, which gives an average flown LF of 39.5%.

Mike16 8th May 2010 12:44

Well how come other carriers are flying there still then, surely if it was so dangerous all flights would be stopped, something fishy i think, probably Fr cant afford to operate the flights !!!!!

FR- 8th May 2010 13:46

"probably Fr cant afford to operate the flights !!!!!" lol get a grip.

Runway 31 8th May 2010 15:34

See the Ryanair thread for details of closed airports. In addition there is disruption in some areas for overflying.

Centre cities 8th May 2010 17:40

Dropped pax at BHX this morning for the Ryanair Malage, cancelled, they re booked on the Baby flight leaving 3 hours later which seemed to have no problem. My guess is Baby extended routing, customer service, less profit, satisfied customers as opposed Ryanair the bottom line of the balance sheet stuff the passenger its going to cost us money..

In respect of refunds/re booking looks simple just click the link on thier site and wait 30 days.

Centre cities

Mike16 8th May 2010 19:11

just funny how other carriers are flying and Fr won't.......

Facelookbovvered 16th May 2010 11:00

All bmibaby flight from EMA SUSPENDED
I see the EMA website is showing all baby flights canx for the rest of today, most of the other operators appear to be operating normally, but other info says EMA closed from 13.00 UTFN

BHX seems normaly, i guess there has to be a line somewhere?

One has to ask who in their right mind would book an overseas holiday any time soon.

If e-clear hadn't finished off Globespan the ash would have, begs the question who is at risk from this ongoing situation, Airline margins are way too thin to take this on the chin week after week.

UPDATE 11.09

More canx from EMA with many mid PM Ryanair flights now canx, i guess the others are playing catch up


canx Flight from bmibaby website

Flight cancellations: Sunday 16th May 2010:
The following flights have been cancelled today due to the volcanic ash:

WW1021 Birmingham - Belfast International
WW1022 Belfast International - Birmingham
WW1023 Birmingham - Belfast International
WW1024 Belfast International - Birmingham
WW1091 Birmingham - Ireland West Knock
WW1092 Ireland West Knock - Birmingham

WW5601 East Midlands - Belfast International
WW5602 Belfast International - East Midlands
WW5475 East Midlands - Amsterdam
WW5476 Amsterdam - East Midlands
WW5477 East Midlands - Amsterdam
WW5478 Amsterdam - East Midlands
WW5429 East Midlands - Palma
WW5430 Palma - East Midlands
WW5251 East Midlands - Paris CDG
WW5252 Paris CDG - East Midlands
WW5329 East Midlands - Malaga
WW5330 Malaga - East Midlands
WW5541 East Midlands - Barcelona
WW5542 Barcelona - East Midlands
WW5911 East Midlands - Venice
WW5912 Venice - East Midlands
WW5191 East Midlands - Edinburgh
WW5192 Edinburgh - East Midlands
WW5193 East Midlands - Edinburgh
WW5194 Edinburgh - East Midlands
WW5371 East Midlands - Nice
WW5372 Nice - East Midlands
WW5821 East Midlands - Glasgow Intl
WW5822 Glasgow Intl - East Midlands

WW3501 Manchester - Belfast International
WW3502 Belfast International - Manchester
WW3901 Manchester - Ireland West Knock
WW3902 Ireland West Knock - Manchester
WW3905 Manchester - Jersey
WW3906 Jersey - Manchester
WW3573 Manchester - Prague
WW3574 Prague - Manchester
WW3755 Manchester - Newquay
WW3756 Newquay - Manchester
WW3227 Manchester - Toulouse
WW3228 Toulouse - Manchester

WW4549 Jersey - Bournemouth
WW4550 Bournemouth - Jersey

aidoair 16th May 2010 11:10

This must be something that has happened in the last 5 minutes as when i just checked all flights were operating except BFS and JER

Alvechurch 16th May 2010 11:57

Ryanair site says East Midlands closing at 1300hrs today.

SAM-EMA 18th May 2010 18:23

Jet2 EMA Launch Tomorrow
Apologies for the slightly spotter question, but with Jet2's launch from EMA tomorrow, anyone known if the based 757 has arrived? First flight out is LS655 to Paphos at 09.30.


paul atkins 18th May 2010 20:43

hey sam the flight leaves leeds/bradford at 2335 tonight

FR- 18th May 2010 21:53

EMA will have 4/5 based a/c this winter :hmm:

INKJET 18th May 2010 22:06

4/5 based winter?
Do you mean Jet2 aircraft or Ryanair aircraft?

FR- 18th May 2010 22:12

The title was FR. . . Yes its Fr bad times, im kind of shocked to be honest, I was expecting Fr to pick up some of the slack from easyJet.

INKJET 19th May 2010 01:09

Sorry for being thick didn't click the FR bit!!
It does seem rather low, but they may have got a better deal elsewhere to winter park aircraft? looks like further reductions in pax numbers for EMA next winter?

Also looks like the winds are going to the NW from Sunday= ash,,grrrrrrrrr

both are bad news for the Brookfield guys.....

[email protected] 19th May 2010 13:57

Jet2 have announced 5 new routes from EMA for summer 2011.

Alicante - 3 x week
Bodrum - 1 x week
Palma - 3 x week
Faro - 3 x week
Rhodes - 1 x week

A second based aircraft will be based.


OliWW 19th May 2010 16:00

Should be another B752 as well :ok:

OltonPete 19th May 2010 20:03

Can anybody offer any logical explanation for ALC, PMI and FAO?

Jet2 have been fairly smart offering destinations with little direct
competition but why take on Ryanair and BMI Baby's daily services
( in some instances)?

Even if they are sold through Jet2 holidays it seems a strange decision.


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