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rusty_c 16th Mar 2007 19:20

Corrrr it seems like Flappy is the man to know! I remember someone saying once that Air India and PIA never have the same handling agents, if thats right, thatll leave Servisair out!

Mr Flaps 16th Mar 2007 19:44

Air India
That will give Swissport and Avaince something to fight over. Air Italy are being handled by Avanice. No one knows who will handle Wizz yet but it could be Aviance again.

xxx5572 16th Mar 2007 19:59

A few questions....
With the return of Aviance at stansted this may be a chance for them if it true about Air India and PIA. Wonder whos aircraft would be actually fit to fly :\ especially with the recent events.

Finally someone has taken the brave step fowrard to introduce the self check in, it would be a dream if EZY did it with all the business pax that pass through, would save the check in staff a headache!

A helicopter landed on 14r on wed and rumours flew around that it was Emirates management having a look?? anyone know anymore on this? My guess is that they saw the state of disrepair that sat 1 is in and wanted to get back on :eek:

I noticed that the domestics is having some work done to it, is it just a few gates or are they trying to revamp the whole area and rearrange gates so that the desks are not around the corner from the gate entry area (gate 86 ) Does anyone know more of what the plans seem to be and when it will be completed by?

And i have seen that coopers end road has been closed but not very sure what is being done or built, is it an extension to the car hire places just done or something else.

Thank you to anyone who can shed any light regarding my questions, just curious as to what is going on. :hmm: All very busy at STN.

G-APDK 16th Mar 2007 21:55

Air Moldova are also reportedly starting flights with A320s -2 days per week. Does anyone know from when and arrival times?

Capt Wannabe 16th Mar 2007 23:23

Flaps : Are you sure it was Air India ?

xx5572 : There is a brief DN about Sat 2. Basically there is work being done to improve the layout of the Domestic Gates and in particular I think an improvement around 83. The 86 problem crops up all the time and is mentioned time and time again. As is the problem at 84 whereby there is a bit of wood in the way of the PSAs. (And NO, it can't just be moved :ugh: )

The chopper on 14 was quite exciting. Rumour has it the stairwell to gate 15 had been visited by cleaners earlier this decade in preparation.....;)

As for self-service............:\ :\ :\ :\

DONTTELLTHEPAX 17th Mar 2007 00:03

Yes you are right, Air Moldova are starting Chisinau-Stansted route
on the 27th march using A320 aircraft.

Dep KIV 1545 Arr STN 1945 (Tue).
Dep KIV 1730 Arr STN 2030 (Fri).

Dep STN 2040 Arr KIV 0130+1 (Tue).
Dep STN 2130 Arr KIV 0220+1 (Fri).

Mr Flaps 17th Mar 2007 18:30

Air India
As sure as I can be. About it being Air India, there where three of us all trying to catch a word while they where in Zone D.
Or if not it may have been Royal Bengal Airline.

DONTTELLTHEPAX 17th Mar 2007 23:29

Eos Airlines
I see Eos have a flight from Stansted to Gander/Miami tomorrow anyone
know whats thats all about ?

Flt E09811 Dep STN 0900L 18/03/2007

WHBM 18th Mar 2007 09:34

Eos have enough spare aircraft capacity to be able to offer ad-hoc charters. They have done quite a number of these since they started. Miami is too far for a 757 nonstop hence the stop at Gander. I believe they have done a number of such transatlantic operations from Continental Europe as well.

Mr Flaps 23rd Mar 2007 23:02

Thomas Cook
Thomas Cook added some spice to this evening by coming in on a full emergency landing after reporting hydraulic problems. The airport fire services where in attendance as where BAA and they aircraft was escorted round to the back of the sat 3 where everyone left the aircraft safely.
The runway was only closed for about 20 mins while a FOD check was done and hardly any delays to inbound and outbound flights.

WATABENCH 24th Mar 2007 10:48

STN would be next choice for FCA longhaul, last year it came down to STN vs BRS for the routes and BRS won through, so STN may get a couple in near future I imagine, next years summer brochures are out soon so keep an eye out, you never know!

Stanstedeye 25th Mar 2007 08:18

Pegasus coming to STN
Pegasus are starting scheduled flights, & are operating Ercan-SAW-STN three times a week, from 25th March.

xxx5572 25th Mar 2007 11:40

Sounds great but never heard of them so could anyone shed any light on this please. Seems to me as if Turkey is the place to go this summer, Sun express 2 weekly, Pegasus 3 times weekly along side all the other carriers such as turkish airlines, kthy. Only time will tell if they all last the summer. :eek:

DONTTELLTHEPAX 26th Mar 2007 17:50

Anyone know who will be handling WOW flights STN to JER.
Starts 05May through 22Sep, Sat only.

tommyc2005 28th Mar 2007 12:36

Pegasus are just taking over from Atlasjet who operated last summer (previously operated by Onur for a couple of seasons, before that Bosphorous European - remember them?!). So it isn't really a new flight.

Turkey is indeed all the rage this summer it seems, Onur are returning flying on Mondays to Bodrum, and Thursdays to Antalya and Dalaman. Sun Express are adding Izmir on Tuesdays and Saturdays.

THY is upgrading to a daily A321.

Stanstedeye 28th Mar 2007 14:38

Pegasus are just taking over from Atlasjet who operated last summer (previously operated by Onur for a couple of seasons, before that Bosphorous European - remember them?!). So it isn't really a new flight.

Turkey is indeed all the rage this summer it seems, Onur are returning flying on Mondays to Bodrum, and Thursdays to Antalya and Dalaman. Sun Express are adding Izmir on Tuesdays and Saturdays.

THY is upgrading to a daily A321.

This is the first time Pegasus have operated to STN, and is the first time that they have ever operated scheduled flights.

rusty_c 28th Mar 2007 14:45

They did charters in Summer '04, STN-AYT-ECN

tommyc2005 28th Mar 2007 15:05

Stanstedeye, trust me, the Pegasus Istanbul-Ercan flights are on behalf of the same travel agents as Atlas, Onur etc, its just that this year it is easier to book. In fact, the service has been 'scheduled' before when it was done by Istanbul Airlines, with a tradition going back to the early to mid-90s. Since their collapse, numerous airlines have carried it on which has added nothing to STN but welcome variety, the pax numbers and days of operation (the times even) have been broadly the same.

Mr Flaps 28th Mar 2007 15:51

Saw the aircraft sitting on gate 13 today. Waiting for the flight to IST. Another contract in the bag for Avaince. Good luck to them. Atlas Jet are still around they are doing a few add hoc charters over the summer. They where in a lot in the run to Xmas running people out to Jedah.

mattcam 28th Mar 2007 17:49

ryanair is to start a stansted - alicante service

DONTTELLTHEPAX 28th Mar 2007 18:02

Where have you been the ALC and the PMI news is very old news.

jack_essex 28th Mar 2007 18:05

'ryanair is to start a stansted - alicante service'

It started on March 26th. The STN - ALC flights for the next week or so are all fully booked or with only a few spare seats.

DONTTELLTHEPAX 28th Mar 2007 18:09

Heard the PMI is doing better, wish they done IBZ.

Capt Wannabe 28th Mar 2007 23:26


Another contract in the bag for Avaince.

Really - whatever makes you think that? The aircraft was certainly not handled by Aviance today. I think you will find they are using the same handling agent as when they last operated through STN in Mar '05.....

Mr Flaps 29th Mar 2007 10:17

Re Pgt
Well then it is a Swissport job then. Saw nothing in Codeco re another Istanbul flight yesterday besides the TK. I will track the person who gave that info to me and correct them today when I go into work. Thanks.

Mr Flaps 30th Mar 2007 12:49

Not sure about this one. I know that Thompsonfly and pulling out of Stansted but I have heard that the contracts have be given or won by XL and we getting XL aircraft at STN. Does anyone else know any more info?
Maxjet had an interesting charter last night. A 4million birthday present for someone to Jamaica via Iceland.

pamann 30th Mar 2007 15:06

Re: ThomsonFly
ThomsonFly are not pulling out of STN just closing their crew base from the end of Winter 07/08 season, the aircraft will be relocated to another base. Flights will still operate on a W pattern basis but to what extent yet we will not know until the Summer '08 brochures are released.

DONTTELLTHEPAX 1st Apr 2007 09:37

Stansted 'determined to add more international routes'

Stansted is close to announcing new flights to India and China, the Business newspaper reports. The airport is also aggressively targeting new routes to Europe.
The airport, which already serves a little over 160 European destinations, is actively engaged in wooing Asian airlines to operate services from Stansted. New newspaper, plus local press reports in India, suggest that Kingfisher Airlines is one Indian carrier that is pursuing talks with Stansted's business development authorities.

The Business quotes Nick Barton, business development and planning director for the airport, as saying: 'We are very encouraged by progress in our advanced talks with Chinese and Indian airlines. These things don't convert overnight but we are well aware of demand in these tiger economies and are moving as fast as we can.'
'We are aware that we have slots we can fill for incoming aircraft form Asia and the far east in quiet times and can therefore comfortably accommodate flights from India, China, Malaysia and Dubai among other areas. Four major carriers from Asia are talking to us but they have to get their fleets right.'

The airport is also seeking saturation coverage of 200 European hubs in the next few years. Mr Barton told the newspaper Paris and Madrid would be among the omissions to be corrected. :D :D

He added: 'If we hit our target of 200 European destinations it's hard to imagine that we will have missed anywhere important. We are aware of the markets the business community wants to access from Stansted and are in very active and advanced discussions to fill all the voids.'

xxx5572 1st Apr 2007 19:37

The article all sounds very good however......

Some serious time needs to be allocated in order to bring some of the satelites back to a good condition. I have noticed some pictures have been put up however this does not cover up crappy jetbridges if the work at all.(Maybe BAA think it does) :E I doubt very much that these airlines will be using steps as a preffered method on their turnarounds.

There are also at least 100 minor defects that are so simple to sort out however BAA do nothing as there are more concerned with passenger spend in the 'world duty free'.For example tenser barriers holding fire doors open, doors that have hinges missing from them, the list goes on.

Not only does this look bad from an airlines point of view but the handling agents must be fed up of having to prop doors open and set up a gate with all sorts just to allow the turnaround to run smoothly as possible. I also wonder what the passenger thinks when they see all of these.
An airports purpose and function is to process passengers in and out of various buildings so therfore should be fit for purpose like doors opening and staying open.

Whilst this news is all very exciting,some investment and hard work is needed to bring standards to a decent level before airlines consider operating from stansted.
I can only imagine what the Emirates people thought of the place, then again they probably only showed them the one working gate which is likely to be the one for EOS. (like when you had a school inspection and the scools would be sparkling, when they were gone it went back to pieces:ugh: :ugh: )

I guess only time will tell :hmm: :hmm:

pamann 4th Apr 2007 11:46

xl & Stansted
Looking at the XL website it would seem XL Airways is openning a base at Stansted this year? Does anyone have any info on aircraft/routes etc?

Stanstedeye 4th Apr 2007 21:19

XL route info
Look on the STN Charter info.

EMA01 4th Apr 2007 21:26

XL airways -

London Stansted
- Faro
- Palma
- Tenerife
- Lanzarote
- Corfu
- Zakynthos
- Kos
- Heraklion
- Dalaman
- Paphos
- Larnaca

There is a good range of routes there and will be good for London Stansted I would have thought because of Thomsonfly moving out :ok:
I would have thought the aircraft would be a B737.800 or an Air Malta A320 on a "W" pattern. (soon find out)


pamann 4th Apr 2007 22:19

Looking on the xl website looks like a based aircraft with XLA flight numbers! :ok:

DONTTELLTHEPAX 4th Apr 2007 22:21

I hope they stick around for the winter season and bring
some longhaul destinations to Stansted.

I dont think TOM are moving out, just not going to be a base.

EMA01 4th Apr 2007 22:24

Yeah. Being me I mixed things up Lol. I think Thomsonfly are still operating the Palma, Alicante, and Tenerife flights not 100% sure though


airhumberside 5th Apr 2007 16:18

With the First Choice deal, TOM will still have a Stansted base

DONTTELLTHEPAX 6th Apr 2007 09:05

Eos Airlines new route/s.
Eos plans more flights from Stansted

EOS AIRLINES, the premium all business-class airline that flies between Stansted and New York, is planning new routes to Washington and Los Angeles, according to press reports.
Speaking to the Times newspaper, the airline's chief executive, Jack Williams, said that routes from Stansted to Washington, Boston, LA and San Francisco and three other destinations were planned to start 'within the next couple of years'. He added that the first of these would begin in October this year, but did not specify which one.

rusty_c 6th Apr 2007 12:08

well itll probably be east coast, dont think the 75' theyve got will have the legs for that!

Mr Flaps 9th Apr 2007 10:22

Maxjet have new planes to them and are being fitted out and will soon be in service. Load factors on the Vegas and JFK routes have picked to around 75% on Vegas and 50%+ on the JFK.
They are muttering about routes to BOS and two other cites.

Mr Flaps 10th Apr 2007 12:27

I have picked up hints from managers at Servisair at STN. That Wizz will be handled by Servisair when the they start flights later in the year. We where expecting them to be handled by Aviance seeing they look after the airline out of Luton. Correct me if I am wrong.

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