PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Airlines, Airports & Routes (https://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes-85/)
-   -   STANSTED - 2 (https://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes/245928-stansted-2-a.html)

sat1 3rd Jul 2007 15:00

I would be surprised,their loads were never good and the a/c were not what you could call reliable.

D-ABAA 3rd Jul 2007 16:35

Look like the TK is having more problems with Swissport than they ever did with S/Air, long delays and plenty of baggage ID's

Mabe too quick to remark, but hey :}

Capt Wannabe 3rd Jul 2007 19:51

Tk @ Stn
 
Interestingly D-ABAA, there have been no baggage ID's since Swissport took over the TK. It's also very interesting to hear feedback from the airline on the difference between the two companies.

D-ABAA 3rd Jul 2007 20:16

Well well, capt_Wanabee, Swissport staff have mouths and say diffrent :eek:

Keep up the goodwork :D

sat1 3rd Jul 2007 20:20

I Have Eyes And I Personally Saw A Bag I D On Day One, So Why The Porkies?

Mr Flaps 4th Jul 2007 09:13

TK
 
What some people have failed to mention that Swissport have sent people to Istanbul to be trained on Troya, where as S/Air got 3 hours in Enterprise House. So when the new system came online S/Air was not ready.
As for no bag ID's then why was the TK A/C still at STN at around 1515 yesterday afternoon with the bridge still on.
Late in bound was it?

Departures Beckham 4th Jul 2007 14:20

Without knowing the details ... wouldn't you think it pretty difficult to perform a full bag ID for 150+ pax on a jetway?

D-ABAA 5th Jul 2007 10:30

No one said anything about a FULL baggage ID did they :ugh:

Departures Beckham 5th Jul 2007 15:00


As for no bag ID's then why was the TK A/C still at STN at around 1515 yesterday afternoon with the bridge still on
Try again :ugh:

mattcam 5th Jul 2007 15:07

american airlines are due to start a new york -stansted service starting sometime in october, got the info on google news:D

mattcam 5th Jul 2007 15:11

daily service will start on october 28 with a second daily service starting in spring 2008:ok::D

Skipness One Echo 5th Jul 2007 15:11

Quite how this won't be competing with their own Heathrow service is beyond me........

Airlines never seem to learn from past mistakes do they?

spanishflea 5th Jul 2007 16:32

Lots of complaints from the corporate clients about LHR, so looks like AA have taken the inititive and started up elsewhere.

Not sure STN is going to be regarded as wildly superiod to LHR, but we shall see...

rusty_c 5th Jul 2007 16:48

The reason for them soing this JFK-STN is with LON-USA opening up after bermuda2 closing they see this as almost a niche, if everyone else is going to be opening up JFK/EWR-LHR then if they open up STN with a bit of variety theres got to be money made, they offer some nice connections too. Good news for STN whos handling them? With Servisair being the superior handler and also with US traffic already, i reckon itll be them.

Powerjet1 5th Jul 2007 17:39

Supposedly twice daily from March 08. Will no doubt p**s off Eos & Maxjet a bit.

Mr Flaps 5th Jul 2007 17:43

AA to Swissport prob
 
This will be a good one to watch. Because AA and Turkish Airlines are linked pax can use the frequent flyer cards for either airline on any AA and TK service, plus they both use Troya for check-in and res.
Swissport seem the most likely seeing they handle TK.
But S/air would take TK back so there is all to play for.
Avaince, Servisair or Swissport??????

WHBM 5th Jul 2007 17:53

AA have of course been in Stansted before, what was it, 15 years ago now, with a service to Chicago.

Differences now are :

1. Maxjet/Eos have mad it a place for premium pax to know about.
2. Direct competition with Maxjet/Eos, putting the squeeze on them multiplying New York service.
3. The continuing meltdown of service standards at Heathrow, especially for premium pax.
4. Continued moving of financial offices in london eastwards from The City to Canary Wharf (it's about a 35-minute drive from Canary Wharf to Stansted for much of the day). New York is a financial destination, Chicago, Dallas and other points on AA's network are more general.

BA next ?

go_edw 5th Jul 2007 19:09

Great News that American Airlines are coming to STN again. I flew with them a few years ago LHR-JFK. What's great is their economy- G O O D L E G room!

However I guess they wont be able to charge much for either Economy or Business as people will fly CHAVJET (maxjet).

spanishflea 5th Jul 2007 19:44


What's great is their economy- G O O D L E G room!
Sadly their programme of "more room through coach" was abandoned, and we are back to 31' pitch :(

xxx5572 5th Jul 2007 20:38

Whoever handles them will have to make sure they have a few spare set of steps as im sure i can now count the servicable jetbridges on one hand and maybe even with a few to spare. If i was AA i would have a serious look at the state of STN and iron out any problems before operating from there but maybe this type of demmand may mean BAA pull thier finger out :ugh::ugh:

jack_essex 5th Jul 2007 21:51

Great news for Stansted. Finally, low cost fares to New York! When will you be able to buy seats on the STN - JFK route as you are not able to at the moment? Will also be nice seeing some AA 767 metal at STN.

spanishflea 5th Jul 2007 22:08

Should be loaded to the GDS's at the weekend.

Skipness One Echo 6th Jul 2007 00:06

Really? 35 mins from my house to Stansted??? I must try that. I struggle to do Isle of Dogs to London City in under 20........
What ARE you driving?

WHBM 6th Jul 2007 08:12

On reflection Isle of Dogs to London City has more traffic signals than to Stansted - yes, really. If only because there isn't a single traffic signal between Isle of Dogs and Stansted.

From Prestons Road roundabout :

5 mins to Beckton
20 mins to M25
35 mins to Stansted approach road.

been doing it for many years.

Departures Beckham 6th Jul 2007 15:31

Schedule now on AA's website. Flight 124 arrives STN at 08:15, flight 125 departs at 10:15am.

D-ABAA 6th Jul 2007 15:34

With regards to ground handlers Servisair management where aware of the AA plans before the reports where released as there was talk last week of handling AA but to be honest at the time I thought nothing of it, but now hmm.

go_edw 6th Jul 2007 20:12

spanishflea,

Thanks for correcting me! What a pity.

Expressflight 7th Jul 2007 08:09

WHBM

"35 mins to Stansted approach road"

Just out of interest, assuming you're driving your own car how long does it take you to get from the "approach road" to the check-in queue?

That's the relevant comparison surely?

WHBM 8th Jul 2007 07:57


Originally Posted by Expressflight (Post 3399154)
how long does it take you to get from the "approach road" to the check-in queue?

Not long at Stansted, a few minutes. Go into the first short-stay car park, park near the footpath, and just walk up.

Now the long-term car park is something else. I don't know another airport where this is so far away (it must be 4 miles) or the connecting bus so pathetically organised. If using that I would double the time allowed.

And the "mid-stay" is the worst of all worlds; nearly short-stay prices and such a slow bus connection, and it's still a mile or more away. And because it doesn't get a lot of use the buses are now so infrequent.

jack_essex 8th Jul 2007 19:30

When will these AA STN -JFK flights be on sale? There is no date on their website when they will be bookable. I am trying to put together a trip to the US in November and would like to know how much fares will be. BA and AA have some really good prices from LHR - JFK so would like to know when who to book with so I do not miss out on the seat sale. As STN is only 15 mins from my house a local departure would be much more attractive.

spanishflea 8th Jul 2007 20:29

They were meant to go up on the AA website this weekend. They were released into the GDSs, however AA accidentaly entered the flights as Economy + First, rather than Economy + Business :rolleyes:

There were quite a few other issues with the schedule update over the weekend too (various domestic flights being missed off aa.com entirely!) so this has had to take a backseat while they fix that mess.

Expect it online, with a bit of luck, some time tomorrow. :ok:

Charlie Roy 10th Jul 2007 22:08

Bucharest
 
New route from low fare Blue Air

Bucharest - Stansted

Flights will be on Monday, Wednesdays and Friday's.
Should be bookable online from tomorrow.

jack_essex 11th Jul 2007 07:18

You are now able to book Aamerican Airlines new route from STN - JFK. With AA's latest offer you can get a return fare from STN - JFK - STN for only £206 inc all taxes and charges. I might have to start planning another NYC trip!

Mr Flaps 14th Jul 2007 09:14

AA will have there own check-in staff
 
Had a little look around the net and AA are advertising for there own check-in staff at STN. So looks like there may only be a battle for the ramp contract.

sat1 16th Jul 2007 07:57

Its seems that there will be no battle,its all cut and dried-Menzies will be handling them along with easyjet. One of their top managers seen being escorted around the undercroft areas.

sat1 16th Jul 2007 23:43

turkish airlines
 
As I understand it there was a 'slight' problem with the outbound TK on monday 16th. Anybody care to elaborate? Something to do with boxes rather than baggage.WAIT!!!!!! I hear them coming...........excuses, excuses, excuses....blah blah blah:ok:

D-ABAA 17th Jul 2007 08:16

I wonder what would happen if the TK outbound cargo was to be taken to the undercroft and put up the baggage reclaim belt:ugh:

No, no surely that couldnt happen thats too stuped, it would delay the aircraft for over 2 and a half hours:rolleyes:

Well done Swissport

No wonder Easyjet are going Blue at Stansted :D

sat1 17th Jul 2007 09:44

No no no,that could never happen-could it?really?

rusty_c 17th Jul 2007 11:52

:ugh: dear o dear, mayb send an aircraft a ton or so short of cargo, but sending it up the baggage belt, you know the phrase, pay peanuts........ Anymore bridge strikes lately?

Capt Wannabe 17th Jul 2007 17:21

TK Cargo
 
I believe the truth about the TK cargo is even more fidiculous than quoted here - but hey, never let the facts get in the way of a good rumour :)

As for the delay - nothing to do with cargo (which was incidentally INBOUND) - more to do with TROYA and API. Problem has been rectified since yesterday.

Keep the rumours coming - they're great........


All times are GMT. The time now is 21:06.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.