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camprax 6th Jun 2007 15:14

baggage
 
I think it is a bit harsh to call human beings "ramp rats" they are working to make a living.I got my start in aviation as a "ramp rat" and it taught me alot on how an airline is run and what I would like to do with my life.Yes , they are guilty of theft but theft comes in many different forms.....is lying when filing your taxes theft?
all the best gents

stator vane 6th Jun 2007 15:30

ramp rat!!??
 
i used to be a ramp rat and that's what we called ourselves and others that worked with us.

didn't offend me a bit.

duck feathers are required.

now that i fly airplanes-i'm a bus driver!!!

lighten up a bit.

the real value is in the work you do, not the titles or names.

i was the best ramp rat and now aim to be the best bus driver. used to fill soda machines and i did that good as well.

Maude Charlee 6th Jun 2007 15:45

Be careful what you wish for in terms of asking for more stringent security checking of airside staff. You really think pilots and cabin crew never go home with trolleys full of stolen loot? If one group of workers is going to get searched, you can bet your bottom dollar we're ALL going to get searched.

And some people bitch non-stop about it as it is. :rolleyes:

sat1 7th Jun 2007 13:09

If its good enough for ramp bods then lets apply the same rule to aircrew.

CaptainFillosan 7th Jun 2007 15:26

It seems to me that this thieving from pax and the behaviour from the so called security guys at BHX is acceptable to some here who have a view on the matter. Why? You at it too??

There is NO single excuse I can think of that excuses anyone from taking coke and dealing in drugs or stealing from innocent pax and not bothering to do the job they were employed to do. The job is so neglected as to make it farcical and dangerous!

Each one of those people on the programme should have been summarily dismissed and reported to the police. Were they?

And this:


You really think pilots and cabin crew never go home with trolleys full of stolen loot? If one group of workers is going to get searched, you can bet your bottom dollar we're ALL going to get searched.
Unbelievable!

D-ABAA 8th Jun 2007 15:10

No Servisair or Aviance handlers arrested mabe just a problem with Swissport then at Stansted.:hmm:

sat1 8th Jun 2007 17:07

when you pay peanuts you get monkeys....with sticky fingers!!!!!

Stanstedeye 9th Jun 2007 18:47

Additional Flights
 
Unlisted additional flights To Las Palmas today are:-IWD3455 & XLA353
Are these flights one-offs, or additions for the season?

D-ABBT 10th Jun 2007 20:20

Well Said Sat1, If Its Searches For "Baggies" then it should be the same for ALL airside workers that come into contact with aircraft or bags, this includes Security workers. We have all been checked by the police to gain our airside passes, so we are all the same. Check one, Check All!!!!!

toledoashley 11th Jun 2007 06:16

Think the IWD and XLA flights are one-off for the ITT Conference (Institute of Travel and Tourism)

tommyc2005 11th Jun 2007 10:55

LPA
 
The IWD is on behalf of Thomas Cook. It is running all season though it was originally scheduled for Mondays.

The XLA is also running all season and has been scheduled and on sale through XL since last summer. Just checked and its not on BAA's charter timetable on the website, but there are other omissions so its obviously not too reliable.

Mr Flaps 11th Jun 2007 12:51

XLA at LPA
 
XL airways have a flight every saturday to LPA. It goes at around 4 in the afternoon.

Stanstedeye 11th Jun 2007 18:37

LPA
 
Thank you TOMMYc2005, & Mr FLAPS.
Out of interest TOM4923 to LPA did not operate today. Should have landed at 17.50, no record at STN.

Mr Flaps 12th Jun 2007 14:45

TOM LPA & Maxjet
 
The Thomsonfly to LPA goes on Monday morning at 8:15. Unless we have another one during the week which we dont know about.

Does any one else think that MaxJet are biting off more than they can chew at the mo. With one A/C down and they are using a leased 757 from a basketball team to run the IAD.
They plan to run LAX by the end of August and have not had any more planes delviered to them.

D-ABBT 12th Jun 2007 21:25

Dont Forget The Miami Air B738 Mr.Flaps :hmm:!!!! But i can see where you are coming from, will be interesting too see what happens. As we say "i wont believe it until i see the white of the captains eyes coming up stand"

BT

rusty_c 13th Jun 2007 09:55

Nice to see you on here again BT, what a fine craft she is!

sat1 14th Jun 2007 07:36

Does any one else think that MaxJet are biting off more than they can chew at the mo. With one A/C down and they are using a leased 757 from a basketball team to run the IAD.
They plan to run LAX by the end of August and have not had any more planes delviered to them.
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Mr Flaps, What DO you mean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr Flaps 14th Jun 2007 08:50

RE Maxjet
 
Sorry if I was not clear I will try again.
Is the airline trying to expand too quickly? With aging unreliable aircraft that have developed a habit of leaving debris on the runway.
The leased 757 is causing them problems already. The door would not open for some reason the other morning.
They are expecting to open a new route to LAX in August but are still short of aircraft to fly the route. They are struggling to fly their current routes.

D-ABAA 14th Jun 2007 16:07

Mr Flaps I see where your coming from, the only solution for Maxjet would be to lease another craft mabe the Miami Air will make a return to fly the route?

On a seperate note, i heard today that Easyjet have given a final warning to Swissport to improve there standards at Stansted.

D-ABAA.

WHBM 14th Jun 2007 17:18


Originally Posted by D-ABAA (Post 3349020)
On a seperate note, I heard today that Easyjet have given a final warning to Swissport to improve their standards at Stansted.

We would all be interested to know what are the aspects of particular concern.

sat1 15th Jun 2007 07:51

Quote:
Originally Posted by D-ABAA http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/...s/viewpost.gif
On a seperate note, I heard today that Easyjet have given a final warning to Swissport to improve their standards at Stansted.

We would all be interested to know what are the aspects of particular concern.

look out Swissport!!!!!!!! Menzies are prowling,or is it already cut and dried????????

xxx5572 15th Jun 2007 14:08

Easyjet
 
Catching up on this thread and the talk of easyjet and swissport makes me wonder how people not working for either company would know about this?? The subject of swissport loosing the contract has been going on for ages and many people said its a definate but still no word!!

The other side of the coin could be that swissport want to loose the contract and i wouldnt blame them as EZY seems to do business in terms of pay pennies expect first class service. Just as many of us all know the world of business you get what you pay for and swissport may have done the number crunching and seen that it really is not woth it for them carry it on. The contract would only be passed over to someone else and although easyjet is swissports main customer they still have contracts with many other airlines. This in turn could see swissport exploring contracts with the other airlines operating from the airport.

Then again just my opinion as many others on the site and only time will tell what lies ahead. :)

Hollymead 15th Jun 2007 14:23

"Easy Jet is Swisports main customer " Er , surely Ryanair is Swissports main customer , no ?????

D-ABAA 15th Jun 2007 14:48


Catching up on this thread and the talk of easyjet and swissport makes me wonder how people not working for either company would know about this?? The subject of swissport loosing the contract has been going on for ages and many people said its a definate but still no word!!

The other side of the coin could be that swissport want to loose the contract and i wouldnt blame them as EZY seems to do business in terms of pay pennies expect first class service. Just as many of us all know the world of business you get what you pay for and swissport may have done the number crunching and seen that it really is not woth it for them carry it on. The contract would only be passed over to someone else and although easyjet is swissports main customer they still have contracts with many other airlines. This in turn could see swissport exploring contracts with the other airlines operating from the airport.

Then again just my opinion as many others on the site and only time will tell what lies ahead. :)
Well firstly, I can confirm Swissport do know they have this as staff have been talking.:ugh:

Secondly, Swissport's main customer is Ryanair :D not easyjet :=.

Live the dream....

sat1 15th Jun 2007 17:20

Easyjet/menzies
 
Well firstly, I can confirm Swissport do know they have this as staff have been talking.:ugh:

Secondly, Swissport's main customer is Ryanair :D not easyjet :=.

Live the dream....

SURELY EASYJET IS A SERIOUS '2ND STRING TO SWISSPORTS BOW' AND AS SUCH WOULD BE A BIG LOSS OF REVENUE TO THEM. PRESUMABLY TUPE WOULD APPLY TO THE AFFECTED STAFF


DONTTELLTHEPAX 15th Jun 2007 21:29

I see that there is a 1000 dep to JFK tomorrow, Flt NAO-022.
Is this the Maxjet flight ? If so why the North American Airlines
flight number pic of aircraft under about us / fleet.

xxx5572 16th Jun 2007 10:10

Im not sure if many of you understand the set up of swissport.

One half of the company is dedicated to Ryanair because of the large operation and operates seperately. And on the other side there is the easyjet contract which is the biggest yet to fill in for the down time and in turn increase efficiency they handle other carriers such as tcx,4u, dy and so on. Whils the management is a central structure the loss of the easyjet contract would not mean the end of swissport as a whole all it would mean is the other side of the operation would have lots more spare time which is why they COULD tender for other contracts to fill this time back up.

Lets not forget that as much revenue as a contract can bring in, businesses want to see a return on investment and mainly a profit, businesses aims are always profit maximisation. Therefore if the easyjet contract in bringing back minimal return on large capital investment in both machines and labour, an attempt could be to streamline a business to make it more profitable by reducing the workforce (bearing in mind this alone counts for 70% of costs) and allowing swissport (charter) to become a smaller workforce than before and working on more profitable contracts.

sat1 16th Jun 2007 13:40

in other words they would do to easyjet what servisair did to ryanair a few years ago

Mr Flaps 17th Jun 2007 13:56

North Amercian 757
 
The North Amercian 757 is a charter for a music tour of London.
MIA-JFK-STN and back.
There is also a TU6 parked north side.

snillocsat4 17th Jun 2007 17:06

Easy/Swissport
 
Audit in May wasn't good . given til end of June to clean up service .or maybe 60 day notice ? Menzies:=

MonitorTower 17th Jun 2007 19:46

Hi,

Am i right in thinking that Swissport have lost EZY contracts at other stations and Menzies will be handling EZY at lgw...this doesn't bode well for stn swissport surely :confused:

Tower.

Hial Flyer 17th Jun 2007 21:36

Menzies have already taken over the EZY contract at Gatwick though think it used to be Servisair.

D-ABAA 18th Jun 2007 12:05

If Menzies do take over EZY at STN will there be room for another handling company on the ramp?:bored:

Departures Beckham 22nd Jun 2007 09:32

Eos Expansion
 
From September 9th, Eos will be offering 40 flights a week. Let's hope we have enough jetways servicable by then...
http://www.eosairlines.com/images/ne...lightsched.gif

Capt Wannabe 22nd Jun 2007 21:11

Beckham

Welcome back - haven't seen you around here for a while :)

Rumour control suggests new bridges are on the way for 11 / 12 / 13 although they will not arrive until next year (I thought eBay was quicker than that), and the new ones may not go on those stands - ie a swapabout may take place.

Don't imagine some of the long-established companies will be too impressed if EOS try to monopolise the working ones at the moment - although I have seen it on steps quite often recently.

Should you not be on a 'blue' pass now ? :ok:

owenkirk2005 25th Jun 2007 15:12

hi, can anybody who knows stansted tell me which runway is usually used when there is a north westerly wind? as far as i know its crosswind. Thanks.

terrain safe 25th Jun 2007 20:15

The preferential runway is 23. This will used generally until there is a tailwind of 5 kts.

TUGNBAR 2nd Jul 2007 18:30

Secure Stansted
 
After dropping off the inlaws today,and upon reading other airport threads on what it is like elsewhere, just wanted to say how organised, safe and secure it felt at Stansted. Even though access to the drop off area is closed of to Joe public, having the lower drop off area is just as good although slightly conjested.:D:D

owenkirk2005 2nd Jul 2007 19:37

stansted reported to be sealed off
 
stansted airport reportedly sealed off due to a suspect package being found. more details to follow on bbc website.

link now avalible
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/6263252.stm

newscaster 3rd Jul 2007 14:14

Do you think PIA will return to STN?


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