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Buster the Bear 24th Jan 2007 20:09

With the amount of labour required to build the Olympic Games venues, this is hardly surprising?

OR

Massive COUP for the BAA and watch this space for more?

If I was within Luton Borough Council, I would be rather worried!

Dave T-S 24th Jan 2007 21:08


And I know ther Germans do like Jersey
I just can't let this one go without comment:}

Well, they did pop over for an extended holiday around 1940 ;)

Note: this is meant for light hearted amusement only, not in any way racist :)

jack_essex 25th Jan 2007 11:24

I'm hoping someone will know what this is all about? In the Sat 2 Domestics there are lots of signs up everywhere saying that if you are a regular flyer to UK destinations from STN you will notice that from Feb the gates are all changing and that you will/may no longer be boarding from the same/similar gates as you are currently. I don't really know how you could change the domestic gates?

Tranceaddict 25th Jan 2007 23:11


Originally Posted by jack_essex (Post 3088627)
I'm hoping someone will know what this is all about? In the Sat 2 Domestics there are lots of signs up everywhere saying that if you are a regular flyer to UK destinations from STN you will notice that from Feb the gates are all changing and that you will/may no longer be boarding from the same/similar gates as you are currently. I don't really know how you could change the domestic gates?

From 1st Feb any domestic departure can be from any gate
i.e you could catch a flight to GLA from gate 2 in sat 1, 37 in sat 2 or gate 45 in sat 3 (or indeed a "traditonal" domestic gate)
Domestic inbounds will still arrive through the domestic gates in Sat 2, or be bussed inbound.

jack_essex 26th Jan 2007 09:43

Well that will be fun for the passengers! LOL. Lots more pax ending up in the wrong sat.

Jordan D 26th Jan 2007 11:02

Dare I ask why the sudden change to the location of domestics?

Jordan

johnref 26th Jan 2007 11:09

Jordan D

I would guess that the domestics sit empty at times when an International flight needs a gate - meaning buses to and from if they have no choice other than use that gate - change the method and you might get higher gate utilisation across the airport.

Tranceaddict 26th Jan 2007 15:55


Originally Posted by Jordan D (Post 3090643)
Dare I ask why the sudden change to the location of domestics?
Jordan

Not a sudden change, but something that has been asked for for a long long time. Just been waiting for the approval from the relevant authoritys.
Why should domestic departing passengers have to use certain gates when all the passengers mix in the departure lounge anyway?
Why should inbound international outbound domestic flights be limited to using the handful of dual gates, which at times can get very congested causing delays and inconvenience to passengers?
Its all basic common sense and makes for far better use of all available stands and gates.
The only people who may get confused to begin with are the regular flyer's who traditionally have always go from certain gates, hence the reason for the large signs advising them to check their gate numbers. Which all passengers should do every time they fly anyway.

Miss World 28th Jan 2007 15:02

I posted on here yesterday asking does anyone who works from Stansted know what work Titan Airways generally do.. ie, is most of their work sub charters for other airlines or do they focus on VIP work?

Not really sure why it would be removed!!! as its an AIRLINE based at Stansted AIRPORT and i'm asking what ROUTES they do.

Thanks x

Stanstedeye 28th Jan 2007 19:25

Titan
 
Miss World

They undertake charter, and some cargo operations. No VIP as far as I know.

WHBM 28th Jan 2007 21:35


Originally Posted by Stanstedeye (Post 3094463)

They (Titan) undertake charter, and some cargo operations. No VIP as far as I know.

They do some "quasi-VIP" work. Not with exec interiors, but if you want a charter to the Formula One in Monaco for 100 guests, or that sort of thing, Titan is a good first call. At the other end of the scale they do pilgrimage charters with disabled pax to Lourdes. The key is ad-hoc work rather than regular weekly series work for tour companies.

Much of their charter capacity goes in subcharters to other carriers when an aircraft goes tech or similar situations. They can sub-charter their 146s to London City operators as they have approprately qualified crews for the steep approach.

mmeteesside 28th Jan 2007 22:10


Originally Posted by WHBM (Post 3094659)
They can sub-charter their 146s to London City operators as they have approprately qualified crews for the steep approach.

Indeed they can, they fly EDI-LCY-EDI on weekdays for Scot Airways in the 146 - going down on a morning and back in the evening (then onto the mail flight to Filton swapping with the other 146 on the FZO-EDI)

sat1 7th Feb 2007 00:24

AGS
 
Does anyone know what has happened to the handling agent AGS at stansted.All the equipment parked up with no activity.Also is it true that servisair are in trouble?

xxx5572 7th Feb 2007 00:36

Nothing has happened to AGS at all as far as i know, as they are a relatively small handling agent they are able to park all their equipment in one place unlike those of swissport and servisair that cant do that with the ammount of equipment.
This is unless you know something we dont, Why are you led to believe Sevisair are in trouble, seem to have enough contracts to be healthy at least. :uhoh:

sat1 7th Feb 2007 08:36

air berlin
 
grapevine sez 'airberlin not happy'

tommyc2005 7th Feb 2007 09:29

To add fuel to Sat1's fire, the Captain was furious on my last AB flight to the point that he announced to everyone his disatisfaction with the ground handling and apologised for the disruption it was causing - no one to op the bridge on arrival, then no stairs appeared either so the pax were very late disembarking, the capt said they had twice requested boarding to start but no one came, then as we sat on board waiting for bags that hadn't been loaded the power became disconnected and we sat in the dark for about 10 mins, the temp drops very quickly! Eventually got away 90+ mins late. I observed staff in the terminal arguing over which a/c was which too ('This is the Tegel' 'No, thats the Tegel, this is the Hanover' ' No, this is Nuremberg, Hanover is on 22(?)' ), which really didn't give a good impression.

TUGNBAR 7th Feb 2007 09:55

I have heard whispers that there is something going on with AGS and AVIANCE. But no hard proof so I can only speculate

Sat1 you obviously know more than you are letting on. So come on submit your knowledge:=

jack_essex 7th Feb 2007 13:42

Eos to start third daily STN - JFK flight
 
From April 15th, Eos Airlines will start three extra weekly JFK - STN flights. In addition to the twice daily service, the extra flights will be on Sun, Thurs and Fri from JFK and then on Sun, Mon and Fri from STN.

Mr Flaps 7th Feb 2007 15:35

Servisair in trouble
 
Servisair accounts are due at the end of next month and the company is suffering from a cash flow problem at the moment. All over time on full time staff has been banned until further notice. There is still over time going for part time staff. The company is hiring more staff at Stansted and at other UK airports. So this cash problem is not expected to last. I have been informed that this happens some times during the winter months.

Stanstedeye 7th Feb 2007 19:14

STN to Brussels
 
Ryanair has announced an increase in flights to Brussels South from 4 to 16 per week from June 1st.

itsonthebox 7th Feb 2007 19:28

From a source in Wickesair. AGS STN gone to Aviance who have won the Air Berlin contract. Rumour or fact??? I guess we will all know soon.
Does this mean Aviance is back to pax work??

gms1991 7th Feb 2007 19:39

I thought that 4 was a bit low, but increaseing the service by 4 times instantly! WOW!

With FR, they coud fly a 744 on some of their routes and still fill them up! Image!

rusty_c 7th Feb 2007 22:23

The rumours are all well and good BUT.... would servisair really let their biggest contract go so easily?

A small handling agent dealing with 5 flights a day max is not really going to be able to start, at the drop of a hat with transfers of baggage and pax 4 times a day 6 times a week. I think it could be a nice kick up the ass rumour for servisair.

Servisair have dedicated staff and are even starting to put staff on familiarisation training. That would be alot of money wasted by the airline if they were to bugger off to another handling agent in a few months time.

It might be a rumour, it might be true. I think if it is true servisair will be up sh*t creek with no paddle and there will be major restructuring and p45s in the post!

Servisair management> :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Hollymead 7th Feb 2007 22:54

""The rumours are all well and good BUT.... would servisair really let their biggest contract go so easily?""ER .. Air UK , Go , Ryanair were all let go very easily .

DONTTELLTHEPAX 7th Feb 2007 22:58

So so true, and if Thomson are leaving Stansted after this summer, I dont know how Servisair will see next winter out.

Mr Flaps 8th Feb 2007 12:48

Air Berlin on the move
 
With regards to Thompson leaving Stansted they plan to run a full summer and winter timetable up until the end of the year.
The rumour about Air Berlin moving across to AGS is surprising but it would not surprise me. I think the move, if it did come out would be a long time coming. While on the topic of Air Berlin the airline is planning to start extra Paderborn services and fly to Zurich direct from Stansted.
There are enough new airlines looking at Stansted to keep Servisair at Stansted.

sat1 9th Feb 2007 22:05

Maybe,but.........why do they have such a history of losing airlines in this manner? \\\\\\\\\i'm talking about AIR UK,GO and RYANAIR.

Captain Airclues 11th Feb 2007 15:51

Heard a rumour that the ex-AFX 747 which has been parked on the north side for several years is going to be flown out (engine runs have been done). Could somebody please tell me the intended route so that I can ensure that I'm not anywhere near.

Airclues

sat1 11th Feb 2007 19:10

Listen Up People!!!!!!!
 
Big announcement expected from AVIANCE at Stansted tomorrow-monday 12th-Hhmmmmm.......I wonder what that will be about.
It seems to be all change at the moment,who would fancy Easyjet teaming up with Servisair. Next thing you know Ryanair will be teaming up with Monarch!!!

G-APDK 11th Feb 2007 21:35

The AFX 747 is rumoured to be going to Prestwick and then for operations in the far east (both Philippines and Indonesia have been mentioned).

Engine runs were undertaken last week but problems were apparently identified. Also inspection hatchs on both sides of the fin have been left open since last week, exposing the inside to snow and rain.

Hollymead 11th Feb 2007 21:43

Are Easyjet having problems with Swissport then ?

TUGNBAR 12th Feb 2007 10:16

AFX
 
I'm surprised it was given permission to run its engines where it is currently parked. It will surely have to go to the runbay for a real test, and I haven't seen move.
Does anyone know when they plan to fly it out?? Scarey:eek: :eek:

Hey Sat1 Aviance take over AGS as from the 15th Feb and they will be handling Air Berlin that is probably the announcement.

rusty_c 12th Feb 2007 21:15

Aviance
 
So anyone know what happened with the press conference?

DONTTELLTHEPAX 13th Feb 2007 20:31

Backers sought for airline to operate Stansted - Bangladesh flights

13.02.07
A businessman seeking investors for a start an airline linking London Stansted and Bangladesh, the Telegraph newspaper reports.
Having researched the project for the past 18 months, Belal Rouf has drawn up plans for the new carrier, Airest, which would operate three return flights to Dhaka a week. The airline would run direct services without any stop-overs.
With plans for offices in the heart of London's Bangladeshi community, Brick Lane in the East End, he has targeted the 300,000 people who make regular trips home to see friends and family as well as business traffic. Stansted has been chosen because it is near to where many potential passengers live.
Mr Rouf plans to launch the airline with fares starting from 430, against 499.90 and upwards offered by its rivals. The airline would operate to using a Boeing 767-300 ER with 12 first-class seats and premium passengers living within 31 miles of the airport offered chauffeured services.
Mr Rouf expects the airline to be profitable within two years with planes 90 percent full overall. By the end of 2009, his projections suggest an annual turnover of 18m and a net profit of 1.4m, the newspaper adds.


ped90 14th Feb 2007 16:00

Handling Changes at STN
 
I've heard that EZY are going to Aviance and Air Berlin to Swissport. As far as timescales, I've no idea.

Obviously Servisairs workload is going to dramatically decrease, so I'd guess there could be some movement of staff to Aviance, who currently only handle Cargo flights (although if they take over AGS that will give them a start).

TUGNBAR 14th Feb 2007 16:13

Easy - Aviance
 
If this is true Swissport are probably glad to see the back of it.

Big changes for Aviance then...... no more sitting in the cargo shed all day

DONTTELLTHEPAX 14th Feb 2007 17:56

Well from what I see, there is no more room in the baggage hall
for anymore lost baggage desks, they are all full, but from the past Aviance were never available to deal with missing baggage problem
anyway:ouch: .

sat1 15th Feb 2007 10:14

Ezy Moving Handlers?????
 
servisair have 2 more pushback tugs on the way.both 2nd hand.1 from robin hood and 1 from john lennon.I guess that the future really is ORANGE.:ok:

Hollymead 15th Feb 2007 11:01

Sat1 , in a post , now deleted , you implied that EZY were going to Aviance , now you are saying Servisair , are you making it up as you go along ?

sat1 15th Feb 2007 12:38

ezy to aviance...I dont think so.Air berlin...now thats a different rumour.


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