It's a misprint. The Stobart statement that they were purporting to be quoting directly from said "London Southend Airport".
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Jet2 winter 2017
Two new routes for winter 2017
GVA and SZG |
Very impressive Winter schedule from Jet2.com with very competitive frequencies.
Would be very surprised if STN doesn't feature in the New York Christmas programme for Nov/Dec 2017. |
I personally can't see LS offering New York, far too much competition in the London/SE region on that route, the reason it works from the regions is the lack of connectivity to NY/the US and that folk use the Christmas shopping trips for this advantage. The US dollar rate will affect their regional NY offerings this year for sure.
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Not sure about the comment on the lack of connectivity from the regions on TA flights - a total of 10 scheduled flights out of Manchester alone to the US this morning on scheduled airlines (excluding Thomson holiday flights) - and yes, LS will also operate to NY over the Christmas period
NY : United x1, American x1, Thos Cook x 1 Orlando : Thos Cook x 1, Virgin Atlantic x1 Atlanta : Virgin Atlantic x 1 Philadelphia : American x 1 Las Vegas : Virgin Atlantic x 1 Miami : Thos Cook x 1 Chicago : American x 1 Add to this list, Singapore Airlines to Houston 4 X weekly from next week. |
'The regions' is not just Manchester.
I believe Jet2 operate their NY programme from the likes of LBA, NCL, EMA... that is what is meant by the term 'The regions'. The south east and London LHR/LGW offer far too much choice and flexibility to NY and that itself keeps the fares generally low. If you want to start using GLA as an example, you'll find the fares a lot higher due to less competition this coming winter. Anyhow let's get back to talking Stansted. Jet2 + NY won't happen here IMHO. |
Well we'll just have to wait and see what happens, though I'm sure there is more than enough local demand to support a few flights to NYC over the christmas period.
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I'd expect the big wigs at Stansted to be looking at more of a legacy carrier for that route, something which has happened in the past but never lasted that long unfortunately. The weak GBP isn't helping in that respect just now, I can't see a legacy carrier on the route in the near future either.
What Stansted now needs is some connectivity with the likes of KLM. An airline that I'm pretty surprised isn't yet in the mix. |
KLM? Air UK were the KLM partner for decades and STN was their main hub.
They did not survive the rise of FR/EZY, STN-AMS is loco territory nowadays IMHO. |
Looks like there's to be no Thomson long-haul programme winter 17/18 :*
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Someone a few weeks back questioned the point of the BA flight to TXL which of course operates inbound on Fridays and back out on Sundays, suggesting it was no good to anyone.
For what is effectively a glorified ferry flight it seems to have done pretty well. Looking at the CAA stats, monthly averages were between 75 and 80 pax per flight. Fares don't seem too low either. |
Having a detailed look into EZY's schedule over the summer it appears 7 aircraft will be based, the same as summer 16. However there appears to be gaps in the schedule with the slight the reduction of some routes such as BJV, PMI and IBZ. I'm guessing a new sun route(s) will be announced to fill the gaps.
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EasyJet
I've had a brief look too and surely must be a new route or two to come though you'd have thought strengthening the frequency on AGP, PMI, IBZ, DBV, ZTH etc. would be more a priority now with Jet2 on the scene.
I guess it depends though whether EZY want to put up a fight (certainly nothing out of the ordinary otherwise) on what isn't exactly their strongest foothold as it is. Just another one of those cases of wait and see I think. |
Air Moldova A320 currently carrying out its 5th orbit over Suffolk - other arrivals coming straight in. Problems?
Edited to add - just landed at Birmingham. |
Originally Posted by LGS6753
(Post 9600640)
Air Moldova A320 currently carrying out its 5th orbit over Suffolk - other arrivals coming straight in. Problems?
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...so why was the Air Moldova 320 affected by fog, yet numerous Ryanair 738s - arriving before and after - weren't?
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...so why was the Air Moldova 320 affected by fog, yet numerous Ryanair 738s - arriving before and after - weren't? |
New service LGA-STN
seen on Airliners.net
BLISS JET TO LAUNCH PER-SEAT NY-LONDON SERVICE IN 2017 | Article - Thu 17 Nov 2016 04:35:07 PM UTC | airsoc.com. well, a one a week corporate jet LGA-STN on Sunday and STN-LGA on Friday. It might operate for a few weeks before it fails. |
For $24,000 return I would expect an FBO experience and a flight when I wanted it.
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BlissJet
First advertised in Summer from Westcheter to Biggin Hill, later Westchester to Stansted, now La Guardia, did any of the other services run......
A LTNman says, for that price might you just rent your own Jet to go when you wanted and from whatever VVIP FBO suited you. Certainly 2 people wanting this makes this service a no brainer! |
EZY MAH
STN-MAH for sale on EZY website, 1 a week from 24th June 17 for the school holidays by the looks of things (last flight 2nd Sep)
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EZY; MAH
Good news... but you know what I'm going to say I bet...
1x weekly is hardly much of a commitment considering LS are new to that route next year with a 3x weekly, and when EZY themselves offer far better frequency to MAH from LGW, LTN and SEN. Nothing much more than just something to fill an empty slot on a Saturday morning it seems. Still good news nonetheless. |
Qantas 744 due Thursday morning STN-BKK.
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Originally Posted by CabinCrew747
(Post 9608434)
Qantas 744 due Thursday morning STN-BKK.
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Ryanair ?feeder? flights deal set for take-off within months
What are peoples thoughts on this? I take this article with a pinch of salt. Surely Norwegian wouldn't bother striking a deal with Ryanair at Gatwick with their extremely limited route offering to Ireland and would of preferred easyJet. Could Norwegian with their fast expansion of their long haul product open a base at STN with Ryanair feeding flights in addition to operations at LGW? If Stansted want to get scheduled long-haul routes I think Norwegian should be at the top of their wish list, rather than a legacy carrier to ensure a sustainable operation. |
Ryanair will say anything to get into the press.
I doubt any airline will move to STN (or anywhere) just to be at the beck and call of MoL. Sure, if they are considering another base in the southeast/midlands then the FR deal might make it more appealing but I cant see any airline just moving for this reason |
What happens to the EU261 liability if connections are missed, particularly given the higher compensatory value for long haul flights ?
Has somebody found a clever way to get round this or has a commercial decision been taken to accept the liability in the knowledge that a lot of passengers are too apathetic to push hard enough to get their money after being given an initial brush-off by an airline ? |
if their are sold as two separate tickets then the passenger is responsible for their own connection so no additional EU261 liability. I don't see this as a STN thing more likely a LGW thing
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RampRat - I agree that separate tickets means no liability. The question is how to sell it as 2 tickets, but still be able to avoid the legal risk of the CAA or the courts deeming it to be a transaction involving a single ticket. After all if you market something as suitable for a particular purpose (ie journey with a connection) but actually it proves unsuitable, then lawyers start smelling claims. A reputation for dodgy products is perhaps something Ryanair has been trying to avoid in the last few years.
Yes you can set up a travel agency which is 49 % owned by each of 2 airlines and the remainder by some suitably acquiescent other unrelated party, but I'm not sure if the courts would accept this as passing the test of independence (and consequent risk of liability) |
The Bliss Jet looks to be a step too far for me - unless they have a guaranteed way to make good money with the aircraft on any "empty sectors". I didn't even know that LGA accommodated non-airline traffic. You wouldn't get very far across the Atlantic on anything but the smallest, shortest range private jet for $24k. But a first class ticket with a major carrier will compete well on price & schedule flexibility, even if you spend longer at the airports than using an FBO.
As for the Qantas flight, I'm sure I remember reading (on here?) a long time ago that they used to fly the odd charter to BKK and onwards to Australia for religious tour groups - possibly from MAN? Not sure if this could be a similar thing? |
Here is the QF 744;
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/qf6051 Due 06:45. |
New £130m Arrivals Building
And finally the plans for a new Arrivals facility have been made public today.
Stansted Airport unveils plans for new £130m arrivals building - Business - East Anglian Daily Times Stansted Airport wants to build a £130 million arrivals building Stansted Airport unveils £130 million arrivals building plan - Cambridge News To Summerise... This will be a separate, 34,000sq m facility between the existing Terminal and Radisson Blu Hotel. It will span across three levels. It will entail a larger immigration and baggage reclaim area, new retail outlets and a public forecourt. Expected to take three years to complete and improvements to the existing Terminal, which will become solely for departing passengers, to be completed by 2022. |
But unless more UK Border Staff are deployed, the queues will still be as long as ever, but in a nice new building.
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I`m flying out and in, as it were, late summer next year on one of the new Jet2 services, has things improved since the terminal alterations were `finished`?..Border farce are, as everywhere, a law unto themselves so the queues inbound won`t improve in the short term..
Mind you at Liverpool, when its busy, you can end up queuing in the rain!! |
The artist's impression outside looks like it will be a magnet for 'slips, trips and falls' claims.
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But unless more UK Border Staff are deployed, the queues will still be as long as ever, but in a nice new building. |
Jet2
Jet 2 to base an additional aircraft from Summer '17 bringing the total to 7.
New routes to: Antayla Corfu Dalaman Split |
Beat me with the good news re Jet2 by moments aax1.....Total destinations on offer Jet2 Summer 17 from STN now for a total of 25....Not too shabby from a standing start......SS
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Eurowings
To add to the good news.... Eurowings to start new 6x weekly STN to MUC from 31st March 2017.
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Jet 2 to base an additional aircraft from Summer '17 bringing the total to 7. |
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