Flybe-V2

[Albert Hall]

Originally Posted by southamptonavgeek

I am not usually one to entertain the possibility of a "slot scam", but would it be possible that Cyrus were trying to recoup their losses from the original Flybe through two schemes - the selling of the Heathrow slots and of the airline entity itself once a slot sale was achieved? Thus, even if one was to be unsuccessful (likely the latter!) they would still have made a respectable sum.

The Heathrow slots were part of a competition remedy so can’t be traded. The only way they can change hands is if the airline itself is sold with the slots within it.

[BA318]

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[Gurnard]

Please enlighten us.

[BHD2BFS]

Will they be deploying the aircraft elsewhere ?
maybe they have new routes to come?

[Whispering Giant]

Or maybe they’ve realised that they don’t have sufficient aircraft for their planned for increase in scheduled flights due to late deliveries or late release from maintenance, and it is easier to do a planned cancellation rather cancelling on the day with all the associated costs such as EU261 etc.

[BA318]

Originally Posted by Whispering Giant

Or maybe they’ve realised that they don’t have sufficient aircraft for their planned for increase in scheduled flights due to late deliveries or late release from maintenance, and it is easier to do a planned cancellation rather cancelling on the day with all the associated costs such as EU261 etc.

Again? They announced they didn’t have enough aircraft for their IOM flights and then two days later announced two new routes with the same timings.

[Wycombe]

The 7th Q400 (FLBB) was delivered to BHX yesterday, and is due in service today apparently.

The current schedule (which admittedly excludes BHX to EDI and GLA) appears to have operated without too many issues with 6 a/c over the last few weeks, which leads me to suspect commercial decisions are behind the latest reductions rather than shortage of aircraft. Who knows what happens next?

[ara01jbb]

LBA-LHR suspended.
BHD-SOU suspended from 24 Nov - Feb.
BHD-MAN/LBA/EMA all reduced to 1 x daily.

Source: https://simpleflying.com/flybe-winte...ft-deliveries/

[SWBKCB]

Same press release cut and pasted here - shame how none of these journalists ask why the late delivery of aircraft stops you operating routes you're already flying (or launching new routes...)

https://www.itv.com/news/utv/2022-11...aft-deliveries

[The Ex Flyer]

Flybe MK2 reminds me of the slow painful death of bmi in its final years, with failing routes, cancelled routes not sure what the airline should do, no direction. Flybe MK1 played games, especially with CWL pushing CityJet off the somewhat successful routes.
Passengers want reliable services and looking at Flybe it is all over the place. It should start non competitive network of routes, say CWL which I believe did well with EDI, CDG, DUB and get that right, before starting routes all over the country.

[The breeze]

Originally Posted by The Ex Flyer

Flybe MK2 reminds me of the slow painful death of bmi in its final years, with failing routes, cancelled routes not sure what the airline should do, no direction. Flybe MK1 played games, especially with CWL pushing CityJet off the somewhat successful routes.
Passengers want reliable services and looking at Flybe it is all over the place. It should start non competitive network of routes, say CWL which I believe did well with EDI, CDG, DUB and get that right, before starting routes all over the country.

Ryanair are on Dublin. Logan are on Edinburgh.

[Asturias56]

"Passengers want reliable services and looking at Flybe it is all over the place. "

it's not a reputation that you want - and the way things are going is starting to make people think about FB1

[willy wombat]

Any news as to how NCLLHR and NCLBFS doing?

[cavokblues]

Originally Posted by willy wombat

Any news as to how NCLLHR and NCLBFS doing?

I've no idea if it is an accurate representation of bookings but the few dummy bookings I've tried in the last few weeks have showed very low loads on Newcastle - Heathrow when I've gone to reserve a seat.

Today's flight down south has 12 reserved seats and tomorrow's return has 8 pax.

[SWBKCB]

Think you'll have to ask on the EZY thread for NCLBFS!

The first Sunday evening BHD-NCL was cancelled, but don't know if that was down to loads, 'late delivery of aircraft' or another reason. I'd have expected that to be one of the flights that does the best, but I've no other info. To be honest, given the short notice of the launch I wouldn't expect the loads to be anything other than dire at the moment.

[BA318]

Has one of the planes gone tech? BHD-Leeds, East Midlands and Glasgow all cancelled today.

[willy wombat]

Sorry, getting my BHDs and BFSs mixed up!

[BA318]

Another bad day of cancelations.
BHD- Leeds, Birmingham, Southampton, Newcastle
NCL- LHR

[SKOJB]

Originally Posted by BA318

Another bad day of cancelations.
BHD- Leeds, Birmingham, Southampton, Newcastle
NCL- LHR

How on earth they can attract customers god only knows, guess the answer to that is they’re not!

[mart901]

Originally Posted by SKOJB

How on earth they can attract customers god only knows, guess the answer to that is they’re not!

What were the cancellations for? EIR had some from BHD this morning too and some flights left late - fog?