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Evidence BMI, Flybe( ver 1), Adria, Malev, Regional ( Kenya), Air Litterol/TAT need I go on
Primary problem is commitment to prioritise the “others” feed over better revenue potential on own dockets and point to point eroding earnings potential, and demands on service delivery and standards.
A different perspective are genuine joint ventures or as in the US the smaller carriers operating under protected scope clauses through.
Right now Flybe would be wise to prioritise their own customers imho.
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social media also seems to have countless examples of people being put on new flights which are also subsequently cancelled and Flybe telling passengers they won’t cover the cost of new flights/not providing hotel or transport to the hotel.
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Surely the long term impact of losing passengers to easyJet and aer Lingus is more concerning for them when the regular business traveller begins to lose faith and can't risk missing a meeting.
business travel is their bread and butter and once that goes the claw back to recovery becomes hard
business travel is their bread and butter and once that goes the claw back to recovery becomes hard
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How many times are they going to do this? Stop announcing new routes if you have no idea when your planes can reliably arrive for you to use.
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Not to mention possible reintroduction of capacity restrictions at LHR. They are not exactly winning the customer confidence vote. Winter 2022/2023 will I suspect be challenging for Flybe.
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They already experienced issues with aircraft delivery earlier in the Summer and had to wet-lease in capacity in the form of an E175 (SX-ASK) from Greek-based Marathon Airlines, so it's clearly an ongoing problem.
If it is the fault of the leasing firm that has led to these delivery delays, then surely Flybe would be able to seek relevant compensation from said leasing company, no?!
The lack of an early morning BHD-IOM rotation means that it wouldn't have been suitable for those people wishing to do a BHD-IOM-BHD or IOM-BHD-IOM day-return trip as the proposed timings would have necessitated an overnight stay.
Going up against Loganair on IOM-LHR is(was) just silly in my opinion and makes me think the numbers were simply just too low to warrant operating it and/or this might have more to do with holding the slots they have at LHR. If they were really committed to operating from/to IOM, they could've just delayed the launch by a few weeks, which would've still garnered some criticism, however the impacts would have been relatively short-lived compared to cancelling it altogether.
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If other airlines have late deliveries then they either delay the route launch or lease in to cover it. P&O’s new ship Arvia is running late and they’ve cancelled its first cruise and set the date for its new inaugural.
Flybe’s late deliveries result in routes being cancelled outright like this (and others this summer). This is beginning to look like whatever aircraft delays they have are covering for commercial decisions not to go ahead with a particular route or routes. With more route launches to come, you wonder how many more aircraft delivery delays there might be.
Flybe’s late deliveries result in routes being cancelled outright like this (and others this summer). This is beginning to look like whatever aircraft delays they have are covering for commercial decisions not to go ahead with a particular route or routes. With more route launches to come, you wonder how many more aircraft delivery delays there might be.
This is beginning to look like whatever aircraft delays they have are covering for commercial decisions not to go ahead with a particular route or routes.
Meanwhile there are at least 3 aircraft sat either in Exeter or Malta that should've entered service by now.
NQY to MAN and LHR start tomorrow, so lets hope they can cover it with the 6 current in-service airframes
You can have all the lead time in the World, and all the tech logs, but if spares are needed (due to unforseen problems) and the lessors/MRO's can't get them, for example, then you're in the trouble.