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Old 29th May 2022, 20:24
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Originally Posted by jamestkirk
Just to reflect what wombat an euromanxdude have sad. I am intrigued how the industry has got to a crew shortage. My only observation on this is that I know experienced pilots who just want to get out of the industry and doubt this, I assume, would not create a shortage on its own. The only tangible information I have is th3 recent survey where 49% of pilots would not recommend the industry to new starters. Didnít give reasons though.
Look, I am an LTC flying B737s, my Mrs was an IRE/TRE back in the day on BAC1-11s, my best mate was an F4 jock in the RAF... none of us have our kids joining this industry. fact.
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Old 29th May 2022, 20:28
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there seems tobe a non-trivial number of flights being cancelled
Bit vague. A few details may help people give explanations, especially as FR24 isn't always the most reliable source of planned flights.

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Old 29th May 2022, 20:39
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There have been lots of cancellations on the LBA-LHR route.

Also itís interesting on social media there are plenty of comments about the old Flybe trick of baggage charges for hand luggage. People complaining they flew one way with no charge and then told the same bag is too big on the way back.
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Old 30th May 2022, 17:26
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I read that Flybe have signed a lease for 5 additional aircraft.....first aircraft delivery imminent.

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Old 30th May 2022, 17:43
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Originally Posted by Jamesair1
I read that Flybe have signed a lease for 5 additional aircraft.....first aircraft delivery imminent.
https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/f...greement-34527
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Old 30th May 2022, 19:16
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Originally Posted by BA318
There have been lots of cancellations on the LBA-LHR route.

Also itís interesting on social media there are plenty of comments about the old Flybe trick of baggage charges for hand luggage. People complaining they flew one way with no charge and then told the same bag is too big on the way back.
Quite a few were charged for their bags on my flight from BHX to AMS on Saturday. Some of the bags looked smaller than my rucksack
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Old 30th May 2022, 19:21
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Originally Posted by Jamesair1
I read that Flybe have signed a lease for 5 additional aircraft.....first aircraft delivery imminent.
First of these was apparently ECOE which is already in service, with another expected shortly.

The 4 current aircraft are now pretty-much flying all day every day (weekdays anyway) as far as I tell. Most delays appear to be through AMS
(where things are so bad that KLM stopped selling tickets for 5 days up to today)
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Old 30th May 2022, 19:53
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First of these was apparently ECOE which is already in service, with another expected shortly.

The 4 current aircraft are now pretty-much flying all day every day (weekdays anyway) as far as I tell. Most delays appear to be through AMS
(where things are so bad that KLM stopped selling tickets for 5 days up to today)
Iím not sure the delays are just AMS related. Some planes which havenít touch AMS have still be flying with long delays and not to mention the cancellations. G-JECX for example hasnít been to AMS in the past 7 days but still incurred big delays on 4 out of the past 7 days.
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Old 30th May 2022, 21:32
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Originally Posted by airsouthwest
In what way am I a "Flybe fanatic" in relation to that post I called for a bit of balance as others have said Trustpilot is not accurate nor is facebook or twitter. The only way you would get a real balance is to ask passengers when deboarding, the same applies to any other airline. You've clearly not read my post properly and made yourself look a bit silly.
Trustpilot. Right. Take a look at BE's competition, BA sitting on 1.4 and U2 sitting on 1.5 and the amount of reviews would blow BE's out of the water.
On the subject of AMS as has been said take a look - KLM are actively discouraging bookings at peak due to the mess there and when it comes to cancellations take a look at BA, EZY and TUI.........
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Old 31st May 2022, 07:53
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......and multi-hour delays every day on Emerald, Loganair, Blue Islands, Aurigny....not on all flights, but on at least some every day, the same as Flybe 2.0. Everyone is struggling, for all the reasons that have been well publicised.
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Old 31st May 2022, 12:02
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Do some research on trustpilot. apart from the criminal element, it is well regarded. Your feelings on this are not fact and the facts don't care about your opinions.
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Old 31st May 2022, 12:54
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Children squabbling over trustpilot reviews.... I've seen it all now. Anyone can post there at any time and say what they like. It's like the fake review scandal on Amazon!! hahaha. Forgetting 90% of reviews on there are from Flybe v1.

On another note, the majority delays and cancellations of the last couple of weeks have been due to problems in and out of AMS... a/c have taken multiple hour delays in and out because of slot restrictions. You only have to open your eyes and see 2-4hr queues to just get through security at Dublin, Manchester, Birmingham, Amsterdam... all airlines are struggling, but by all means pick a narrative that points your bent finger at 'same old flybe'.
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Old 31st May 2022, 13:24
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Children squabbling over trustpilot reviews.... I've seen it all now. Anyone can post there at any time and say what they like. It's like the fake review scandal on Amazon!! hahaha. Forgetting 90% of reviews on there are from Flybe v1.

On another note, the majority delays and cancellations of the last couple of weeks have been due to problems in and out of AMS... a/c have taken multiple hour delays in and out because of slot restrictions. You only have to open your eyes and see 2-4hr queues to just get through security at Dublin, Manchester, Birmingham, Amsterdam... all airlines are struggling, but by all means pick a narrative that points your bent finger at 'same old flybe'.
I literally posted a plane which hasnít been near AMS in a week and it still had multiple long delays on 4 out of 7 days. Of course everyone is dealing with issues but at the same time they are not new companies trying to establish themselves in a highly competitive market where there are plenty of alternatives.

of the AMS flights most have departed AMS on time or less than an hour late apart from a couple of the past week AMS-BHX which were approximately (give or take) 2hrs late. How has that screwed the ops across the network for the past two weeks?
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Old 31st May 2022, 13:43
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How has that screwed the ops across the network for the past two weeks?
Ops are not screwed across the network, most flights are on-time or within 15-20 mins of being so, but AMS is having an impact, as well as other airports in the current network, at various times.

Emerald is also a new operation (and another which looks very much like the old one) who seem to be suffering similar delays at various times, although none of their a/c go anywhere AMS as far as I know.

These new operations still have to get their pax through the same security, ground handling, air traffic delays, weather etc, so very hard to establish/differentiate in those circumstances.
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Old 31st May 2022, 14:03
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Emerald may not go anywhere near Amsterdam... but they have a very heavy dependence on Dublin, which has been seeing its own issues
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022...n-airport-daa/
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/05/31/hellish-queues-outside-dublin-airport-in-the-early-hours-as-passengers-try-not-to-miss-fli

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Old 31st May 2022, 14:29
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I have just this minute glanced at all the aircraft in the Flybe fleet to see how today is going. It might surprise some to hear that all the aircraft are operating reasonably to time (within 30 minutes) which given the state of air travel at the moment, and that they are working the four units they have bloody hard is pretty reasonable. There is but one exception showing at the moment - that is G-ECOE on BE1334 AMS / BHD which is carrying a long delay.

Of course that doesn't fit the narrative of some on this thread, but actually when you look back over the last few days, apart from for yesterday which looks to have been a bit of a mare, it really hasn't been too bad in the wider scheme of things. That said there is always room for improvement.
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Old 31st May 2022, 16:03
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Rogue one.

who has forgotten 90% are from Flybe v.1 to be fair to air southwest, we both acknowledged that.

you call us children
I call you shoddy. Next time try reading the posts, you may learn something. But I won’t hold my breath.
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Old 31st May 2022, 18:25
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Originally Posted by jamestkirk
Rogue one.

who has forgotten 90% are from Flybe v.1 to be fair to air southwest, we both acknowledged that.

you call us children
I call you shoddy. Next time try reading the posts, you may learn something. But I wonít hold my breath.
I read all the posts thanks boss... and still TP was being brought up. Maybe don't take everything so personally...

​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ Shoddy. That's a new one, I'm going to need a mental health check after that broadside. Thanks Capt!!
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 23:41
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Tried the new Flybe this week with a total of four flights. All delayed, ranging from 45 mins to 2hr 54m on tonightís LBA-LHR. All in all not great, one delay was Late inbound from Amsterdam, the rest staff/system/paperwork related. Total shambles at Leeds tonight with zero information relating to the rolling delay and only two Swissair staff on duty meaning they could only board one flight at a time, plus they had a cancelled TUI to deal with. The departure board didnít even acknowledge a delay until 90 mins after departure time. Managed to get to Heathrow just before compensation would have kicked in! Canít see me going near Flybe again for a while, their schedule seems to be totally unrealistic at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Loofa
Tried the new Flybe this week with a total of four flights. All delayed, ranging from 45 mins to 2hr 54m on tonight’s LBA-LHR. All in all not great, one delay was Late inbound from Amsterdam, the rest staff/system/paperwork related. Total shambles at Leeds tonight with zero information relating to the rolling delay and only two Swissair staff on duty meaning they could only board one flight at a time, plus they had a cancelled TUI to deal with. The departure board didn’t even acknowledge a delay until 90 mins after departure time. Managed to get to Heathrow just before compensation would have kicked in! Can’t see me going near Flybe again for a while, their schedule seems to be totally unrealistic at the moment.
It seems to me the problems they have are the same as many other airlines currently (including regionals such as Loganair and Emerald, who have had similar delays on some flights over the last few days), but are exacerbated by the size of the schedule they are trying to operate with only 4 a/c, which currently therefore include some 8 and 9 sector days.

Apparently, there are further aircraft due to be delivered (including at least one last week) that have not happened/been delayed, which is contributing further to the current poor performance (I reckon about 50% are being delayed overall - 2 out of 3 of this morning's first flights are on time, but things generally slip during the day).
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