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Old 5th May 2022, 19:19
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I heard they were out a couple of weeks ago trying to charter additional aircraft for the whole summer, looking for E190/ATR72. May be wrong, but I'd guess there probably wasn't anything out there - business has come booming back for most ACMI providers.
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Old 5th May 2022, 20:46
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First revenue service should be to BHD at 1810.
Looks like this didn't happen today. The current schedule needs 2 a/c at this time at BHX (one arrives from AMS at the same time - 1810 - as another is needed for scheduled departure to BHD), so the departure to BHD was operated by ECOE with approx 40min delay after it arrived from AMS. The schedule needed 4 a/c from the day these services started (28th Apr) really.
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Old 5th May 2022, 23:31
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Looks like this didn't happen today. The current schedule needs 2 a/c at this time at BHX (one arrives from AMS at the same time - 1810 - as another is needed for scheduled departure to BHD), so the departure to BHD was operated by ECOE with approx 40min delay after it arrived from AMS. The schedule needed 4 a/c from the day these services started (28th Apr) really.
Actually the BHX based aircraft is planned to do BHX-BHD-BHX 07:00-09:50, then BHX-AMS-EMA-AMS-BHX 10:25-18:10, then BHX-BHD-BHX 18:10-21:00, only issue is they have messed up the flight timings on the final BHD flight, and expect the plane to come in from AMS & turn around to BHD in 0 minutes!! Realistically the BHD flight should be 18:40-21:30, i'm sure they will eventually reschedule it!!!
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Old 6th May 2022, 07:00
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Why would it take a dash 8 400 1hr 50mins block BHXBHD?
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Old 6th May 2022, 08:38
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Originally Posted by willy wombat
Why would it take a dash 8 400 1hr 50mins block BHXBHD?
Timetable padding?
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Old 6th May 2022, 09:00
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Originally Posted by willy wombat
Why would it take a dash 8 400 1hr 50mins block BHXBHD?
I don't see that in the above, 2hrs50min was quoted for a BHX-BHD-BHX roundtrip. Scheduled timings are 1hr15min (out) and 1hr5min (return), with 30min turnround

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Old 6th May 2022, 09:28
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Originally Posted by willy wombat
Why would it take a dash 8 400 1hr 50mins block BHXBHD?
Perhaps it was following an ATR?
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Old 10th May 2022, 08:47
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Looks like ops have settled down a bit over the last few days now that 4 a/c are in service. Most flights on or near to schedule.

Some high fares on BHX-BHD and a few flights showing sold out on this route over the next week or so, so (just based on publicly available info) that route looks to be doing ok. Others less so, particularly LBA-LHR. Codeshares are apparently "work in progress".
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Old 14th May 2022, 18:46
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Inaugural flight Leeds to Heathrow where the security queue at Leeds was longer than the flight.

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Old 15th May 2022, 10:16
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I fear that goody bag will become a collector's item in the not too distant future.
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Old 16th May 2022, 07:54
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" where the security queue at Leeds was longer than the flight."

that's the sort of thing that murders intercity operations in the UK

But hey-ho - I saw with my own eyes a Flybe aircraft going into Birmingham on Friday - so I have to believe they're back now
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Old 23rd May 2022, 21:31
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Lots of delays and cancellations today. What is going on? The morning seems ok but the 13:25 BHD-BHX ended up going at 18:14. One of the Heathrow and a Leeds flight from BHD were cancelled. The second BHD-LBA due out at 16:55 actually left at 21:49. Two of the LHR-LBA flights were also cancelled.

Is it a staffing issue or tech planes? G-ECOC operated in the air for all of 2:44hrs today yet the above flights were cancelled and delayed.
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Old 23rd May 2022, 21:59
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Originally Posted by BA318
Lots of delays and cancellations today. What is going on? The morning seems ok but the 13:25 BHD-BHX ended up going at 18:14. One of the Heathrow and a Leeds flight from BHD were cancelled. The second BHD-LBA due out at 16:55 actually left at 21:49. Two of the LHR-LBA flights were also cancelled.

Is it a staffing issue or tech planes? G-ECOC operated in the air for all of 2:44hrs today yet the above flights were cancelled and delayed.
Does the high number of Leeds flights being cancelled suggest that routes which touch Leeds are perhaps the cancellations which will inconvenience fewest passengers.... i.e. Leeds is seeing significantly lower load factors than other Flybe airports ?
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Old 24th May 2022, 01:48
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The LBA to LHR is at the very least aeronautical folly.

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Old 24th May 2022, 06:34
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LBA - LHR seemed to work really well for British Midland back in the old days.
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Old 24th May 2022, 07:01
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Like the quality over the years of a Sara Lee frozen Black Forest Gateaux, times change.
As a small practical example. This Fridays service at 18.45 has three people who have allocated their seats. No others. So looks like a near empty flight, which without question looks like a financial loss sector.
They must have quite a lot of EU261 claims in since starting as well.

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Old 24th May 2022, 07:15
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Originally Posted by jamestkirk
Like the quality over the years of a Sara Lee frozen Black Forest Gateaux, times change.
As a small practical example. This Fridays service at 18.45 has three people who have allocated their seats. No others. So looks like a near empty flight, which without question looks like a financial loss sector.
They must have quite a lot of EU261 claims in since starting as well.
Indeed. Trains are much smoother and quicker now and airports are much slower and restrictive. And a couple of late or cancelled flights will kill the demand from the few people who chose to use it. Unless they get a EU261 claim each time then it could turn out to be quite profitable 😂

But looking at yesterday’s ops a good chunk would appear eligible for compensation probably wiping out the days profits if there were any at all.
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Old 24th May 2022, 07:16
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Originally Posted by crewmeal
LBA - LHR seemed to work really well for British Midland back in the old days.
But it was always two thirds interlining. They have to get the codeshares going for it to have a chance. Or a rail strike......
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Old 24th May 2022, 14:34
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Originally Posted by BA318
Lots of delays and cancellations today. What is going on? The morning seems ok but the 13:25 BHD-BHX ended up going at 18:14. One of the Heathrow and a Leeds flight from BHD were cancelled. The second BHD-LBA due out at 16:55 actually left at 21:49. Two of the LHR-LBA flights were also cancelled.

Is it a staffing issue or tech planes? G-ECOC operated in the air for all of 2:44hrs today yet the above flights were cancelled and delayed.
I have no insight as to what any issues are, but things seem to be running better today.

They currently have 4 a/c in service, but not all of them are needed all day at present.

However, the next route starts (AMS to BHD and LHR) are this weekend, and I read elsewhere that at lease one more airframe introduction is due this week.
An source on the inside says they plan to have 17/18 airframes in service by the end of August!

The first 2 LHR-AMS flights this Sunday appear to be sold out, and there are quite high fares on the route (in both directions) on various dates over the next few weeks. Less so on the BHD route.
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Old 25th May 2022, 05:58
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
I have no insight as to what any issues are, but things seem to be running better today.

They currently have 4 a/c in service, but not all of them are needed all day at present.

However, the next route starts (AMS to BHD and LHR) are this weekend, and I read elsewhere that at lease one more airframe introduction is due this week.
An source on the inside says they plan to have 17/18 airframes in service by the end of August!

The first 2 LHR-AMS flights this Sunday appear to be sold out, and there are quite high fares on the route (in both directions) on various dates over the next few weeks. Less so on the BHD route.
Not sure it was that much better. The evening BHD-LBA went out over 3hrs late. The evening LBA-LHR cancelled again too. There was also a BHX-BHD cancelled.
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