Eastern Airways-3
Originally Posted by TartinTon
Impossible on a single crew. As the crew would have to report before 0600 and assuming 4 sectors then the duty day would be 9 hours max.
A 0500 report with 4 sectors is 11 hours FDP on current CAA/EASA subpart Q approved multi crew FTL schemes. That doesn’t include any extension for a planned split duty, so with 6 hours rest the FDP could be increased to 14 hours, so an FDP end (on chocks) at 1900. I’m not saying that a duty like this would be pleasant, but it’s “legal “. Remember that Crewing Departments now treat FTL Limits as targets for maximum productivity. In any case, duty hours rules are different to Flight Duty Period rules.
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How will that be crewed? Surely too long a day for an EMA based crew to do all the sectors given that delays could happen? If it can't be crewed by one crew, there will be positioning crew costs to factor in. We've seen this with T3 before, it's almost like they have an aircraft and nothing to do with it so let's try this.....
SOU-Paris flights......
ORY does NOT connect/interline with AF long haul from CDG
AF long haul from Orly is only to the ex French Colonies in Ivory Coast, North Africa, Reunion, Martinique and Guadeloupe
Doubt we will be able to use Virgin Flying Club rewards points or get through fares on this (unlike we can on the SOU-AMS KLM interline long haul flights)
so frankly not a very forward step IMO
ORY does NOT connect/interline with AF long haul from CDG
AF long haul from Orly is only to the ex French Colonies in Ivory Coast, North Africa, Reunion, Martinique and Guadeloupe
Doubt we will be able to use Virgin Flying Club rewards points or get through fares on this (unlike we can on the SOU-AMS KLM interline long haul flights)
so frankly not a very forward step IMO
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Originally Posted by GayFriendly
How will that be crewed? Surely too long a day for an EMA based crew to do all the sectors given that delays could happen? If it can't be crewed by one crew, there will be positioning crew costs to factor in. We've seen this with T3 before, it's almost like they have an aircraft and nothing to do with it so let's try this.....
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CWLs Facebook press release and replies in comments states this is an Air France flight operated by Eastern Airways on their behalf. Which is very different to Eastern operating the flight with an AF codeshare. Any idea which it is?
“We are delighted to be entering into this cooperation with Air France and opening up connectivity to Europe’s second biggest city for both business and leisure travellers and restoring direct access year-round to France.” says Roger Hage, Commercial Director of Eastern Airways.
“These first three new UK-France services from East-Midlands, Southampton and Cardiff will initiate the new Eastern Airways and Air France cooperation, developing into a codeshare partnership in the course of this year. Each ensures a sustainable capacity development whereby not only direct access to Paris is offered, but onward connections to a myriad of destinations allowing business users much improved options but also an exciting and ever popular leisure offer, including Disneyland Paris celebrating its 30th anniversary this year to add to the Parisian charm the City is famous for”
“These first three new UK-France services from East-Midlands, Southampton and Cardiff will initiate the new Eastern Airways and Air France cooperation, developing into a codeshare partnership in the course of this year. Each ensures a sustainable capacity development whereby not only direct access to Paris is offered, but onward connections to a myriad of destinations allowing business users much improved options but also an exciting and ever popular leisure offer, including Disneyland Paris celebrating its 30th anniversary this year to add to the Parisian charm the City is famous for”
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Originally Posted by caaardiff
CWLs Facebook press release and replies in comments states this is an Air France flight operated by Eastern Airways on their behalf. Which is very different to Eastern operating the flight with an AF codeshare. Any idea which it is?
It’s a T3 flight, with upcoming AF codeshare
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All the ORY slots are Eastern babysitting on AF's behalf. They've been touting them around for the last few months as they haven't got the aircraft/crews to operate them on their own. It's likely to be no longer than a 12-18month max exercise.
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Originally Posted by caaardiff
Now on sale. EMA based aircraft operating EMA-ORY-SOU-ORY-CWL-ORY-EMA
Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
Odd that it’s based at EMA. Surely SOU where they already have aircraft based would make more sense.
This will complement the Newquay-Cornwall service which launches on Friday 31st March and will act as a catalyst to further new services from the East Midlands hub.
Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
Odd that it’s based at EMA. Surely SOU where they already have aircraft based would make more sense.
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Explorer
Yeah but it’s Eastern we’re talking about here. Since when did sense come into anything they do?
Sadly PAX from and to SOU and CWL won't have that benefit.
I actually wonder if a 2 x daily EMA/ORY might not have made more business sense. Or 2 x daily SOU/ORY of course.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
what it does offer is really business friendly timings to allow East Midlands originating PAX a full days work in Paris.
Sadly PAX from and to SOU and CWL won't have that benefit.
I actually wonder if a 2 x daily EMA/ORY might not have made more business sense. Or 2 x daily SOU/ORY of course.
Sadly PAX from and to SOU and CWL won't have that benefit.
I actually wonder if a 2 x daily EMA/ORY might not have made more business sense. Or 2 x daily SOU/ORY of course.
