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[eggc]

Originally Posted by BACsuperVC10

Very good news that. Will operate Mon, Weds, Fri and Sun A320/ CRJ900 (suns)

KLM tried not that many years ago and didnt last long, hope LH try a little harder.

[eye2eye5]

The lack of a competing LCC on the route should ensure it doesn’t suffer the same fate as KLM. That said, LH made short work of FR at MAN.

[VickersVicount]

Originally Posted by eggc

KLM tried not that many years ago and didnt last long, hope LH try a little harder.

Would be my feeling also. Gone within a year of starting is my instinct. The old adage ‘use it or lose it’ hopefully holds true and people get on board so to speak.
Always seems a little weird travelling 1-2 hrs east for connections to double back West for those particular routes, wouldn’t be my choice. LH are a little sterile also.

[eye2eye5]

LH probably have a rather different ethic and are more likely to hang around. There are many business links with Germany on Merseyside and this service has been long in the making. I suspect it is more likely to grow than contract,

[SWBKCB]

Jumping straight in with a A320 on alternate days doesn't shout connections. Some corporate backing?

[Mr A Tis]

I imagine the A320 has a useful cargo payload for the automotive industry ?

[BACsuperVC10]

MAN-FRA is already a very busy route. I don't see why this shouldn't follow in the same vein, gives more choice for the NW in general, and gives Lufthansa a route without competition from Liverpool. Its great Liverpool at long last has a hub link.

[easyflyer83]

Originally Posted by BACsuperVC10

MAN-FRA is already a very busy route. I don't see why this shouldn't follow in the same vein, gives more choice for the NW in general, and gives Lufthansa a route without competition from Liverpool. Its great Liverpool at long last has a hub link.

You could say the same about KL when they tried LPL. They are experts in UK connections through AMS.

Good news nonetheless but ideally needed at least a daily service to offer a good degree of flexibility.

[BACsuperVC10]

Originally Posted by easyflyer83

You could say the same about KL when they tried LPL. They are experts in UK connections through AMS.

Good news nonetheless but ideally needed at least a daily service to offer a good degree of flexibility.

Its true KLM are good at UK connections, I think they gave up too early. If this works, I'm sure LH will add more flights. We'll dome to the all involved for bringing this route in not the best of times.

[Rutan16]

Originally Posted by BACsuperVC10

Its true KLM are good at UK connections, I think they gave up too early. If this works, I'm sure LH will add more flights. We'll dome to the all involved for bringing this route in not the best of times.

The KLC flight times weren't very good for connections particularly back west and it was pretty much an Amsterdam slot sitter.

Frankfurt has been served previously by BMA/BMI and rarely scored significant loads indeed it was tagged via EMA on occasion.

[Sioltach Dubh Glas]

You could of course go back to the mid-60s when, if I remember correctly, British Eagle operated LPL-MAN-FRA with a BAC 1-11 as EG660/661. Hopefully my grey cells are all functioning okay.

[eye2eye5]

Fabulous memory, thanks for sharing.

[DomyDom]

Originally Posted by Sioltach Dubh Glas

You could of course go back to the mid-60s when, if I remember correctly, British Eagle operated LPL-MAN-FRA with a BAC 1-11 as EG660/661. Hopefully my grey cells are all functioning okay.

Thanks for this ineresting piece of history. Was it the same route reversed for the return flight?

[EI-BUD]

KLMs withdrawal may not necessarily mean the route wasn't doing well, there simply may have been other points of similar distance that provide better revenue opportunities, and better feed to the network. Also given the scarcity of slots at AMS ... In this climate we've seen airlines trying things that ordinarily wouldn't have been considered likely. Equally airlines are looking to any attractive Incentives on offer. Good to see the airport attracting business from something other than low cost airlines.

[Mr A Tis]

Originally Posted by Sioltach Dubh Glas

You could of course go back to the mid-60s when, if I remember correctly, British Eagle operated LPL-MAN-FRA with a BAC 1-11 as EG660/661. Hopefully my grey cells are all functioning okay.

In the 70s Dan air operated LPL-AMS with various equipment.

https://derbosoft.proboards.com/thre...-route-history

[SWBKCB]

Are we sure we aren't comparing apples and oranges? Jumping straight in with an A.320 less than daily, rather than a more frequent CRJ/EMB/319 doesn't sound like a bid for connecting traffic to me.

[BACsuperVC10]

Originally Posted by Rutan16

The KLC flight times weren't very good for connections particularly back west and it was pretty much an Amsterdam slot sitter.

Frankfurt has been served previously by BMA/BMI and rarely scored significant loads indeed it was tagged via EMA on occasion.

That's donkeys years ago, re BMA. KLM's flights were increased from 3 to 4 per day, so not a slot sitter.

[EZYPZY]

New easyJet routes for Summer 2022

easyJet to launch two new routes to Heraklion and Izmir, each operating once weekly. Tenerife goes year round. Rhodes and Zante seemingly moved down the road to MAN.

[BACsuperVC10]

Blue Air operated a 737 max8 on its flight from Bucharest early this morning. They now return in April 2 per week.

[BACsuperVC10]

Nordwind A330s on cargo flights from CAN via SVO or LED , have continued to operate on a regular basis, sometimes two aircraft on the apron together.