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Old 7th Jan 2022, 10:14
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Well hats off to Liverpool, two freighters inbound currently.
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Have Ryanair ditched Malta completely for the summer ?
Malta seems to have gone from BOH and EMA as well after many years of operating
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Originally Posted by Navpi
Well hats off to Liverpool, two freighters inbound currently.
The freighters from China via Russia have been running quite regularly for a while by Nordwind. One has just arrived but this time a B777 of Redwings.
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Originally Posted by MARKEYD
Have Ryanair ditched Malta completely for the summer ?
Malta seems to have gone from BOH and EMA as well after many years of operating
Who knows
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Lufthansa , Liverpool to Frankfurt route will now start on 2 May, slightly earlier than planned.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 15:27
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Recruitment underway

https://www.liverpoolairport.com/recruitment-day 200 jobs Details in the link for anyone interested
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Cargo

Ural Airlines A321s have began to operate some freight charters from China into Liverpool. Calls at an intermediate point en route.
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Old 27th Jan 2022, 07:56
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Local council puts the boot in:
Liverpool Airport future expansion plans in doubt - BBC News
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People who don't want to see the city grow
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Old 27th Jan 2022, 12:23
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Originally Posted by BACsuperVC10
People who don't want to see the city grow
The city can only grow if LJLA expands?
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Originally Posted by UnderASouthernSky
The city can only grow if LJLA expands?
It needs transport connections, LPL is part of that.
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Building a new runway is not very popular with people at this time and is going to to get less popular with time.
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Originally Posted by chaps1954
Building a new runway is not very popular with people at this time and is going to to get less popular with time.
I don't see the need for another runway at this time. However that doesn't mean the airport should not be allowed to grow in the future.
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Old 27th Jan 2022, 13:23
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Building a new runway is not very popular with people at this time and is going to to get less popular with time.
I knew they were looking at extending the current runway, however "building a new runway" is possibly a case of unfortunate wording?

Please don't shoot me, maybe I've misinterpreted the previous post.
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Originally Posted by Sioltach Dubh Glas
I knew they were looking at extending the current runway, however "building a new runway" is possibly a case of unfortunate wording?

Please don't shoot me, maybe I've misinterpreted the previous post.
I am not aware of a second runway proposal myself. I think they maybe looking at a new starter strip at the Hale end of the runway. I think land has been earmarked for that.
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Old 27th Jan 2022, 14:37
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
It's not the local council, its some members of the 'climate change and environment select committee' have asked the full council to consider...

The Masterplan has no mention of a second runway, but does propose a runway extension to the east.
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Old 27th Jan 2022, 15:02
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Any extension to the runway would be in Halton B.C. as the boundary is the old Dungeon lane. Halton have already said they will allow the airport to expand there. Liverpool C.C. have only a right to a have a say as it's near to them but not a block.
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Old 27th Jan 2022, 15:05
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Originally Posted by BACsuperVC10
I am not aware of a second runway proposal myself. I think they maybe looking at a new starter strip at the Hale end of the runway. I think land has been earmarked for that.
There is a proposal to extend the runway to around the 10,000 feet mark a vain believe of gaining long haul (never mind 747s have previously operated TALC into Canada - A market now gone -some say dead literally).

Peel have long lived in sort of dreamland in what can be achieved at Speke to be honest.

The North West and indeed Northern Powerhouse needs a single primary airport with excellent regional rail and road connections and perhaps a second air cargo hub .

As for a driver for wider economic growth in the last sixty years Speke missed almost all growth targets and opportunities; baring one and that was a lucky break/gift given to them on a plate by MAG market mismanagement, the early flexible fares carriers Orange and Harp expansion in the early 2000s and EU liberalisation..

Regrettably even that peaked with a change of course 35miles down the road.

Putting aside the last 2 years (COVID and Brexit) terminal passenger numbers reached a high of 5,468,510 in 2007 ! and declined back below 4,000,000 in 2014 recovering to 5,043,975 in 2019.

During the same period most other compareble airports - I'll sight Bristol similar demographics, 2007 - 5,926,774, 2014 - 6,339,805 and 2019- 8,964,242 observed consistent growth.

We can also consider freight and mail have declined with the loss of the night mail hub and potentially missed opportunities with the consolidators.

Clearly Speke has under-performed and continues to do so.

If we consider the range of routes that support the local economy (rather than exporting holiday money) well Easy - serve Belfast, Amsterdam , Barcelona and Geneva with Madrid, whilst the Harp adds Dublin , Bergamo (Milan), Charleroi (Brussels), Rome and Stockholm with a few others
Wizz is almost all migrant labour inbound (with post Brexit notable declines)

And the airport doesn't even support an Aer Lingus flight into the hub these days -Even missed on the the new Aer Lingus Regional first wave.

KLC left with better things to do with the Schiphol slots

Nice to see Lufthansa try something sure.

The terminal is adequate for current and some years of future recovery/growth.

As a tool for inward investment into the city region, Speke is a shadow line to the presence of another facility down the road.

The North West needs to look at inward investment across the entire region and not just one of the two city regions competing.

Really the competition isn't Manchester or Liverpool , Preston or Blackburn no its the North West and indeed the North of England against the likes of the Ruhr , Milan and Barcelona where things are MADE yes the skill base remains that of manufacturing in the main.



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Old 27th Jan 2022, 15:11
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I am not aware of a second runway proposal myself.
The only such proposal of which I am aware was when the airport was owned by British Aerospace, but that was some 20 years ago .......

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...l-1531519.html




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Old 27th Jan 2022, 16:20
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Originally Posted by spekesoftly
The only such proposal of which I am aware was when the airport was owned by British Aerospace, but that was some 20 years ago .......

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...l-1531519.html
Its not even on the agenda , and extended runway maybe for the future.
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