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Paxing All Over The World
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 10,841
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From: Hertfordshire, UK.
Every time a 'loyalty' scheme is 'improved' or 'upgraded' it means that it has been improved and upgraded for the company! In the early updates, they only mention about collection - never how their are going to make redemptions more expensive and difficult. I sit to be corrected ...
Joined: Apr 2002
Aviation Qualifications: PPL
Posts: 1,263
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From: Surrey, UK ;
Despite having flown lots of BA flights for years and never getting above Bronze, the best I have ever got is about £300 off flights to the USA. I regard the Executive Club benefits as being not so much a valuable reward as a small discount when you can manage to get it.
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 128
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From: UK
I treated myself to a Business Class ticket to the US a few months ago (a fair price in the BA sale earlier in the year).
I won’t be doing it again
- slow check in at the CW desks in T3, disinterested, miserable FOH staff who had more important jobs to do than check people in (sitting at the check-in desk completing ‘paperwork’)
- poor quality BA Lounge in T3 - indifferent food buffet, overcrowded, lack of staff, cheap self-service drinks, poor quality wine selection
- indifferent cabin service, service without a smile, 35 minute response time to a call bell (items missing from the seat such as the ANR headset)
- the new club seat on the A350 was very nice
- at the baggage carousel, my two items of luggage were amongst the last of all hold bags to be delivered, despite the ‘Priority’ tags - a 35 minute wait for hold baggage.
Needless to say, British Airways didn’t seek any feedback after the journey unlike other operators - I can see why they don’t ask for feedback.
If I fly with BA again, it will be back to World Traveller Plus and pay a few quid for the Number 1 Lounge in T3.
(Bronze Card holder awaiting this new change with trepidation)
I won’t be doing it again
- slow check in at the CW desks in T3, disinterested, miserable FOH staff who had more important jobs to do than check people in (sitting at the check-in desk completing ‘paperwork’)
- poor quality BA Lounge in T3 - indifferent food buffet, overcrowded, lack of staff, cheap self-service drinks, poor quality wine selection
- indifferent cabin service, service without a smile, 35 minute response time to a call bell (items missing from the seat such as the ANR headset)
- the new club seat on the A350 was very nice
- at the baggage carousel, my two items of luggage were amongst the last of all hold bags to be delivered, despite the ‘Priority’ tags - a 35 minute wait for hold baggage.
Needless to say, British Airways didn’t seek any feedback after the journey unlike other operators - I can see why they don’t ask for feedback.
If I fly with BA again, it will be back to World Traveller Plus and pay a few quid for the Number 1 Lounge in T3.
(Bronze Card holder awaiting this new change with trepidation)
Joined: Apr 2010
Aviation Qualifications: Spotter
Posts: 843
Likes: 16
From: London
I treated myself to a Business Class ticket to the US a few months ago (a fair price in the BA sale earlier in the year).
I won’t be doing it again
- slow check in at the CW desks in T3, disinterested, miserable FOH staff who had more important jobs to do than check people in (sitting at the check-in desk completing ‘paperwork’)
- poor quality BA Lounge in T3 - indifferent food buffet, overcrowded, lack of staff, cheap self-service drinks, poor quality wine selection
- indifferent cabin service, service without a smile, 35 minute response time to a call bell (items missing from the seat such as the ANR headset)
- the new club seat on the A350 was very nice
- at the baggage carousel, my two items of luggage were amongst the last of all hold bags to be delivered, despite the ‘Priority’ tags - a 35 minute wait for hold baggage.
Needless to say, British Airways didn’t seek any feedback after the journey unlike other operators - I can see why they don’t ask for feedback.
If I fly with BA again, it will be back to World Traveller Plus and pay a few quid for the Number 1 Lounge in T3.
(Bronze Card holder awaiting this new change with trepidation)
I won’t be doing it again
- slow check in at the CW desks in T3, disinterested, miserable FOH staff who had more important jobs to do than check people in (sitting at the check-in desk completing ‘paperwork’)
- poor quality BA Lounge in T3 - indifferent food buffet, overcrowded, lack of staff, cheap self-service drinks, poor quality wine selection
- indifferent cabin service, service without a smile, 35 minute response time to a call bell (items missing from the seat such as the ANR headset)
- the new club seat on the A350 was very nice
- at the baggage carousel, my two items of luggage were amongst the last of all hold bags to be delivered, despite the ‘Priority’ tags - a 35 minute wait for hold baggage.
Needless to say, British Airways didn’t seek any feedback after the journey unlike other operators - I can see why they don’t ask for feedback.
If I fly with BA again, it will be back to World Traveller Plus and pay a few quid for the Number 1 Lounge in T3.
(Bronze Card holder awaiting this new change with trepidation)
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 128
Likes: 6
From: UK
Unlikely, Sealink - the whole Business Class experience with British Airways was underwhelming relative to what they charge - the person across the aisle from me could have, easily, paid three times as much for the experience.
Absolutely no comparison with Business Class in the Middle or Far East airlines - British Airways even have the brass neck to charge for seat allocation in Business Class - unlike most of their competitors.
I managed to obtain a free selection, due to my Bronze status, at -7 days.
Joined: Nov 2000
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 279
Likes: 135
From: South East
Unlikely, Sealink - the whole Business Class experience with British Airways was underwhelming relative to what they charge - the person across the aisle from me could have, easily, paid three times as much for the experience.
Absolutely no comparison with Business Class in the Middle or Far East airlines - British Airways even have the brass neck to charge for seat allocation in Business Class - unlike most of their competitors.
I managed to obtain a free selection, due to my Bronze status, at -7 days.
Absolutely no comparison with Business Class in the Middle or Far East airlines - British Airways even have the brass neck to charge for seat allocation in Business Class - unlike most of their competitors.
I managed to obtain a free selection, due to my Bronze status, at -7 days.
Many other airlines now charge. Some airlines have now unbundled business class to not even include lounge access. Why single BA out? They haven’t gone that far.
Why do BA not give free seat selection to everyone? The leisure traveller on cheaper ticket books well in advance of the high value business traveller. Result? With free seat selection the people booking the cheapest Club tickets get the best seats and your high value customers booking last minute get what’s left. And it annoys them. Happened to me on another airline, work booked me a last minute one way ticket, very expensive. I got the worst seat in the cabin. Nothing else available - despite being fairly sure my ticket was the most expensive.
BA are looking after their full fare customers and frequent flyers. Anyone else has a choice. In new Club Suites all the seats are identical, and on short haul Club every seat is a window or aisle. Nobody is forced to pay.
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 1,409
Likes: 330
From: Southampton
A very happy new year to everyone 👍
As we enter into 2025 the following information gives an insight regarding several destinations on the airlines network that are ceasing and that they are in fact pauses.
Article courtesy of ch-aviation.com
British Airways is pausing its London Heathrow - Abu Dhabi International route between London Heathrow and Abu Dhabi between March 30 and October 25, 2025, because of supply chain challenges impacting the production and repair of the Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 engines on its B787s.
“We’re disappointed that we’ve had to make further changes to our schedule as we continue to experience delays to the delivery of engines and parts from Rolls-Royce, particularly in relation to the Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 engines fitted to our B787 aircraft,” a BA spokesperson told ch-aviation. “We’ve taken this action because we do not believe the issue will be solved quickly."
Rolls Royce is experiencing problems sourcing some raw materials and parts used to make the Trent 1000 engines, reducing its output of new engines and also delaying repairs to in-service engines.
British Airways has previously rejigged its schedules to accommodate these issues. On or around March 30, the airline is suspending its flights to Kuwait and Dallas/Fort Worth and is reducing its 2x daily service to Miami to daily. It has also axed its London Gatwick - New York JFK over the current northern winter and delayed the restart of flights to Kuala Lumpur International.
"We continue to work closely with Rolls-Royce to ensure the company is aware of the impact its issues are having on our schedule and customers, and seek reassurance of a prompt and reliable solution," the BA spokesperson added.
As we enter into 2025 the following information gives an insight regarding several destinations on the airlines network that are ceasing and that they are in fact pauses.
Article courtesy of ch-aviation.com
British Airways is pausing its London Heathrow - Abu Dhabi International route between London Heathrow and Abu Dhabi between March 30 and October 25, 2025, because of supply chain challenges impacting the production and repair of the Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 engines on its B787s.
“We’re disappointed that we’ve had to make further changes to our schedule as we continue to experience delays to the delivery of engines and parts from Rolls-Royce, particularly in relation to the Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 engines fitted to our B787 aircraft,” a BA spokesperson told ch-aviation. “We’ve taken this action because we do not believe the issue will be solved quickly."
Rolls Royce is experiencing problems sourcing some raw materials and parts used to make the Trent 1000 engines, reducing its output of new engines and also delaying repairs to in-service engines.
British Airways has previously rejigged its schedules to accommodate these issues. On or around March 30, the airline is suspending its flights to Kuwait and Dallas/Fort Worth and is reducing its 2x daily service to Miami to daily. It has also axed its London Gatwick - New York JFK over the current northern winter and delayed the restart of flights to Kuala Lumpur International.
"We continue to work closely with Rolls-Royce to ensure the company is aware of the impact its issues are having on our schedule and customers, and seek reassurance of a prompt and reliable solution," the BA spokesperson added.
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 75
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From: london
BA to resume TLV?
No mention yet on the resumption of TLV…
I know they have suspended a number of routes due to engine trouble but thought we would have heard some sort of announcement if even it’s on A321 temporarily.
I know they have suspended a number of routes due to engine trouble but thought we would have heard some sort of announcement if even it’s on A321 temporarily.
Joined: May 2006
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From: london
📌 Virgin Atlantic and British Airways resume flights to Tel Aviv
𝑽𝒊𝒓𝒈𝒊𝒏 𝑨𝒕𝒍𝒂𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒄
▪️𝗟𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗻 𝗛𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝘄 - 𝗧𝗲𝗹 𝗔𝘃𝗶𝘃 | 𝗢𝗰𝘁𝗼𝗯𝗲𝗿 𝟮𝟲, 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱 | 𝗗𝗮𝗶𝗹𝘆 | 𝗕𝟳𝟴𝟳-𝟵
•VS453 London Heathrow 22:00 - Tel Aviv 04:55
•VS454 Tel Aviv 06:55 - London Heathrow 10:30
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𝑩𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒊𝒔𝒉 𝑨𝒊𝒓𝒘𝒂𝒚𝒔
▪️𝗟𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗻 𝗛𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝘄 - 𝗧𝗲𝗹 𝗔𝘃𝗶𝘃 | 𝗔𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗹 𝟱, 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱 | 𝟳𝘅 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 | 𝟭𝟰𝘅 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗔𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗹 𝟮𝟬, 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱 | 𝗔𝟯𝟮𝟭𝗻𝗲𝗼
𝐌𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐓𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐖𝐞𝐝𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐅𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐒𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲
•BA404 London Heathrow 21:15 - Tel Aviv 04:20
•BA405 Tel Aviv 06:05 - London Heathrow 09:35
𝐓𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲
•BA404 London Heathrow 20:55 - Tel Aviv 04:00
•BA405 Tel Aviv 06:05 - London Heathrow 09:35
𝗔𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗔𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗹 𝟮𝟬, 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱
𝐌𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐓𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐓𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐅𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲
•BA402 London Heathrow 08:00 - Tel Aviv 15:05
•BA403 Tel Aviv 16:30 - London Heathrow 19:50
•BA404 London Heathrow 21:15 - Tel Aviv 04:20
•BA405 Tel Aviv 06:00 - London Heathrow 09:30
𝐖𝐞𝐝𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲
•BA402 London Heathrow 07:45 - Tel Aviv 14:50
•BA403 Tel Aviv 16:30 - London Heathrow 19:50
•BA404 London Heathrow 21:15 - Tel Aviv 04:20
•BA405 Tel Aviv 06:05 - London Heathrow 19:50
𝐒𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐝𝐚𝐲
•BA402 London Heathrow 08:05 - Tel Aviv 15:10
•BA403 Tel Aviv 16:30 - London Heathrow 19:50
•BA404 London Heathrow 21:15 - Tel Aviv 04:20
•BA405 Tel Aviv 06:05 - London Heathrow 09:35
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▪️𝗟𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗻 𝗛𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝘄 - 𝗧𝗲𝗹 𝗔𝘃𝗶𝘃 | 𝗢𝗰𝘁𝗼𝗯𝗲𝗿 𝟮𝟲, 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱 | 𝗗𝗮𝗶𝗹𝘆 | 𝗕𝟳𝟴𝟳-𝟵
•VS453 London Heathrow 22:00 - Tel Aviv 04:55
•VS454 Tel Aviv 06:55 - London Heathrow 10:30
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𝑩𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒊𝒔𝒉 𝑨𝒊𝒓𝒘𝒂𝒚𝒔
▪️𝗟𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗻 𝗛𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝘄 - 𝗧𝗲𝗹 𝗔𝘃𝗶𝘃 | 𝗔𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗹 𝟱, 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱 | 𝟳𝘅 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 | 𝟭𝟰𝘅 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗔𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗹 𝟮𝟬, 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱 | 𝗔𝟯𝟮𝟭𝗻𝗲𝗼
𝐌𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐓𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐖𝐞𝐝𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐅𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐒𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲
•BA404 London Heathrow 21:15 - Tel Aviv 04:20
•BA405 Tel Aviv 06:05 - London Heathrow 09:35
𝐓𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲
•BA404 London Heathrow 20:55 - Tel Aviv 04:00
•BA405 Tel Aviv 06:05 - London Heathrow 09:35
𝗔𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗔𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗹 𝟮𝟬, 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱
𝐌𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐓𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐓𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐅𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲
•BA402 London Heathrow 08:00 - Tel Aviv 15:05
•BA403 Tel Aviv 16:30 - London Heathrow 19:50
•BA404 London Heathrow 21:15 - Tel Aviv 04:20
•BA405 Tel Aviv 06:00 - London Heathrow 09:30
𝐖𝐞𝐝𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲
•BA402 London Heathrow 07:45 - Tel Aviv 14:50
•BA403 Tel Aviv 16:30 - London Heathrow 19:50
•BA404 London Heathrow 21:15 - Tel Aviv 04:20
•BA405 Tel Aviv 06:05 - London Heathrow 19:50
𝐒𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐝𝐚𝐲
•BA402 London Heathrow 08:05 - Tel Aviv 15:10
•BA403 Tel Aviv 16:30 - London Heathrow 19:50
•BA404 London Heathrow 21:15 - Tel Aviv 04:20
•BA405 Tel Aviv 06:05 - London Heathrow 09:35
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Paxing All Over The World
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 10,841
Likes: 328
From: Hertfordshire, UK.
I see that BA have announced changes to the big change in Executive Club that announced last year. Looks like their are increasing the amount of tier points to be earned per sector. Of course, for the greatest majority want more Avios but they have had a lot of criticism from their most frequent travellers.
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,130
Likes: 326
From: Royal Berkshire
HAL boss pretty much confirmed then what most of us suspected, and T5 and T2 expansion (the toast rack) will be ahead of any R3, which effectively shoves R3 at least 20 years away, and makes Reeves shovel in the ground by 2029 speech look even more silly 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 137
Likes: 6
From: scotland
I've taken three long hauls in the last year with BA - LHR-LAS/SEA/DFW. I normally don't mind BA economy, I deliberately fly with them. However, on all six flight legs, the food was absolutely attrocious - bland mashed potato/pasta/chicken style affairs - not even a curry to be had. It was never this bad before, I am a seasoned international traveller (pre-covid) - is it the routes? Has something changed?
Joined: May 2020
Aviation Qualifications: ATCO
Posts: 151
Likes: 68
From: Magrathea
I have been to Vancouver & Seattle with BA in the last year. The food was not brilliant, but acceptable , though that was in Club. Generally, I would sum up the experience as OK; though I have to say that it was “out of sight” compared to Air Tahiti !
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 137
Likes: 6
From: scotland
I like BA, I always have. I feel safe and secure with them, which is the most important think to me when flying. I just wish the food was better!