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Yes I'm aware of those 5 daily slot pairs at LIN and the reasons why they were awarded. But no doubt BA will announce further schedule's to LIN in the coming weeks. Probably further flights from LHR and maybe LCY but an option from LGW could also be a possibility 🤔
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I totally agree 👍
I was surprised at the time when British Airways cancelled Genoa.
Genoa is a major Italian city, a major Italian city of business and commerce, Italys largest and most important port, and is close to Portofino and the entire Italian Riviera.
Having previously used British Airways from LGW to Genoa on a few occasions, I personally would like it to be resumed at some point. Genoa is obviously the missing link on British Airways impressive Italian route network.
Genoa was always a long standing route with British Airways and it was a legacy route inherited from BCAL and before that BUA.
Although easyjet have come and gone from LGW and MAN to Genoa it's a shame that it's only Ryanair currently flying from STN. Although I have to say that I have also used Ryanair to Genoa.
I'm not holding my breath but hopefully at some point in the future British Airways will reinstate LGW to Genoa. 👍
I was surprised at the time when British Airways cancelled Genoa.
Genoa is a major Italian city, a major Italian city of business and commerce, Italys largest and most important port, and is close to Portofino and the entire Italian Riviera.
Having previously used British Airways from LGW to Genoa on a few occasions, I personally would like it to be resumed at some point. Genoa is obviously the missing link on British Airways impressive Italian route network.
Genoa was always a long standing route with British Airways and it was a legacy route inherited from BCAL and before that BUA.
Although easyjet have come and gone from LGW and MAN to Genoa it's a shame that it's only Ryanair currently flying from STN. Although I have to say that I have also used Ryanair to Genoa.
I'm not holding my breath but hopefully at some point in the future British Airways will reinstate LGW to Genoa. 👍
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With Kenya Airways recently announcing Nairobi to London Gatwick three times weekly from July 2025 British Airways have also announced an additional three weekly flights from London Heathrow to Nairobi with a Boeing 788 also from July.
Big increases for next summer between London and Nairobi with these additional flights from British Airways and Kenya Airways. It's a shame that there isn't a direct link to Mombasa as well especially with 🇰🇪 Kenya Airways.
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/241212-bans25nbo
Big increases for next summer between London and Nairobi with these additional flights from British Airways and Kenya Airways. It's a shame that there isn't a direct link to Mombasa as well especially with 🇰🇪 Kenya Airways.
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/241212-bans25nbo
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Sontosean
BA used to operate twice per day to Nairobi with a day and overnight flight with 747 then 747 / 777 combo. Kenya just one service but I never used them on that route but have used extensively in East / Central Africa.
As for Mombassa I remember Monarch going in there along with a number of other European smaller carriers and Qutar used to go in from the Gulf.
Currently Condor stop in on the way to Zanzibar along with aforementioned European charter carriers. There is quite a large Italian community so a number of flights from there as well as further north in Europe.
I think Kenyan may have done a flight to AMS but it may have stopped in Nairobi on route but I don’t remember a LHR service with out a change of A/C but you can check bags through obviously with them.
I / we fish and dive in the Malindi area up the coast from Mombassa so know the area quite well over the last 20 plus years . However I tend to try and fly into Malindi direct from Wilson or Jomo as the road can be interesting to say the least, and that’s after the relatively recent improvements, before that it was a bone shaker, and at night a little dangerous re accidents.
Cheers
Mr Mac
BA used to operate twice per day to Nairobi with a day and overnight flight with 747 then 747 / 777 combo. Kenya just one service but I never used them on that route but have used extensively in East / Central Africa.
As for Mombassa I remember Monarch going in there along with a number of other European smaller carriers and Qutar used to go in from the Gulf.
Currently Condor stop in on the way to Zanzibar along with aforementioned European charter carriers. There is quite a large Italian community so a number of flights from there as well as further north in Europe.
I think Kenyan may have done a flight to AMS but it may have stopped in Nairobi on route but I don’t remember a LHR service with out a change of A/C but you can check bags through obviously with them.
I / we fish and dive in the Malindi area up the coast from Mombassa so know the area quite well over the last 20 plus years . However I tend to try and fly into Malindi direct from Wilson or Jomo as the road can be interesting to say the least, and that’s after the relatively recent improvements, before that it was a bone shaker, and at night a little dangerous re accidents.
Cheers
Mr Mac
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Sontosean
BA used to operate twice per day to Nairobi with a day and overnight flight with 747 then 747 / 777 combo. Kenya just one service but I never used them on that route but have used extensively in East / Central Africa.
As for Mombassa I remember Monarch going in there along with a number of other European smaller carriers and Qutar used to go in from the Gulf.
Currently Condor stop in on the way to Zanzibar along with aforementioned European charter carriers. There is quite a large Italian community so a number of flights from there as well as further north in Europe.
I think Kenyan may have done a flight to AMS but it may have stopped in Nairobi on route but I don’t remember a LHR service with out a change of A/C but you can check bags through obviously with them.
I / we fish and dive in the Malindi area up the coast from Mombassa so know the area quite well over the last 20 plus years . However I tend to try and fly into Malindi direct from Wilson or Jomo as the road can be interesting to say the least, and that’s after the relatively recent improvements, before that it was a bone shaker, and at night a little dangerous re accidents.
Cheers
Mr Mac
BA used to operate twice per day to Nairobi with a day and overnight flight with 747 then 747 / 777 combo. Kenya just one service but I never used them on that route but have used extensively in East / Central Africa.
As for Mombassa I remember Monarch going in there along with a number of other European smaller carriers and Qutar used to go in from the Gulf.
Currently Condor stop in on the way to Zanzibar along with aforementioned European charter carriers. There is quite a large Italian community so a number of flights from there as well as further north in Europe.
I think Kenyan may have done a flight to AMS but it may have stopped in Nairobi on route but I don’t remember a LHR service with out a change of A/C but you can check bags through obviously with them.
I / we fish and dive in the Malindi area up the coast from Mombassa so know the area quite well over the last 20 plus years . However I tend to try and fly into Malindi direct from Wilson or Jomo as the road can be interesting to say the least, and that’s after the relatively recent improvements, before that it was a bone shaker, and at night a little dangerous re accidents.
Cheers
Mr Mac
Monarch flew to Mombasa for several years, as did African Safari Airways.
Britannia Airways and latterly TUI also previously flew to Mombasa. With a few high-profile murders and a rise in crimes towards tourists, the Mombasa holiday flights were stopped.
Kenya Airways did indeed previously offer a Mombasa flight from AMS but a same plane service once weekly via Nairobi. Kenya Airways never operated a similar service from LHR.
I'm very familiar with Mombasa having been their several times before. Are you familiar with the Nyali Beach Hotel on Nyali Beach to the north of Mombasa itself.
Condor and Discover Airlines both fly to Mombasa from FRA.
I've only ever personally been to Zanzibar on one occasion.
Zanzibar is currently served by various European scheduled and charter flights by the following airlines.
Air France
Condor
Discover Airlines
Edelweiss Airlines
Enter Air
HiFly
KLM
LOT Polish Airlines
NEOS
Turkish
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Sontosean
BA used to operate twice per day to Nairobi with a day and overnight flight with 747 then 747 / 777 combo. Kenya just one service but I never used them on that route but have used extensively in East / Central Africa.
As for Mombassa I remember Monarch going in there along with a number of other European smaller carriers and Qutar used to go in from the Gulf.
Currently Condor stop in on the way to Zanzibar along with aforementioned European charter carriers. There is quite a large Italian community so a number of flights from there as well as further north in Europe.
I think Kenyan may have done a flight to AMS but it may have stopped in Nairobi on route but I don’t remember a LHR service with out a change of A/C but you can check bags through obviously with them.
I / we fish and dive in the Malindi area up the coast from Mombassa so know the area quite well over the last 20 plus years . However I tend to try and fly into Malindi direct from Wilson or Jomo as the road can be interesting to say the least, and that’s after the relatively recent improvements, before that it was a bone shaker, and at night a little dangerous re accidents.
Cheers
Mr Mac
BA used to operate twice per day to Nairobi with a day and overnight flight with 747 then 747 / 777 combo. Kenya just one service but I never used them on that route but have used extensively in East / Central Africa.
As for Mombassa I remember Monarch going in there along with a number of other European smaller carriers and Qutar used to go in from the Gulf.
Currently Condor stop in on the way to Zanzibar along with aforementioned European charter carriers. There is quite a large Italian community so a number of flights from there as well as further north in Europe.
I think Kenyan may have done a flight to AMS but it may have stopped in Nairobi on route but I don’t remember a LHR service with out a change of A/C but you can check bags through obviously with them.
I / we fish and dive in the Malindi area up the coast from Mombassa so know the area quite well over the last 20 plus years . However I tend to try and fly into Malindi direct from Wilson or Jomo as the road can be interesting to say the least, and that’s after the relatively recent improvements, before that it was a bone shaker, and at night a little dangerous re accidents.
Cheers
Mr Mac
I am however surprised that few UK tour operators are promoting the island of Zanzibar as of yet.
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Sotonsean
BA also flew on from Nairobi to some Indian ocean islands I think Mauritius or Seychelles in the Boeing days as now an A350 route.
As for Mombasa I have never stayed there just landed and driven up the coast. However the last time I was there we flew direct from the Mara via 5 stops in a Cessna Caravan to Ukunda airport for dropping of people for Diani Beach which is south of Mombasa as you will know before the two of us and the two pilots flew up to Moi Int. As I said we stay further North near Malindi at Watamu staying at Hemingways or at Lamu where we hire a house. However with he growth of internal airlines within Kenya we now fly direct to Malindi or Lamu usually directly from Nairobi Wilson though as I said last time we did fly into Moi as the time saved flying direct from the Mara was quicker than stagging through Nairobi.
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There have been issues, and of course the well known bombing of the Paradise Israeli owned hotel and attempted shoot down of the Israeli airliner which led to the suspension of BA flights to Nairobi for a time. However Zanzibar has also had issues recently though on a lesser scale. If you travel a lot for work or indeed pleasure you will always be subject to some issues like this in certain areas of the world but it has not stopped us travelling we just try to e a little careful
Cheers
Mr Mac
BA also flew on from Nairobi to some Indian ocean islands I think Mauritius or Seychelles in the Boeing days as now an A350 route.
As for Mombasa I have never stayed there just landed and driven up the coast. However the last time I was there we flew direct from the Mara via 5 stops in a Cessna Caravan to Ukunda airport for dropping of people for Diani Beach which is south of Mombasa as you will know before the two of us and the two pilots flew up to Moi Int. As I said we stay further North near Malindi at Watamu staying at Hemingways or at Lamu where we hire a house. However with he growth of internal airlines within Kenya we now fly direct to Malindi or Lamu usually directly from Nairobi Wilson though as I said last time we did fly into Moi as the time saved flying direct from the Mara was quicker than stagging through Nairobi.
Rutan 16
There have been issues, and of course the well known bombing of the Paradise Israeli owned hotel and attempted shoot down of the Israeli airliner which led to the suspension of BA flights to Nairobi for a time. However Zanzibar has also had issues recently though on a lesser scale. If you travel a lot for work or indeed pleasure you will always be subject to some issues like this in certain areas of the world but it has not stopped us travelling we just try to e a little careful
Cheers
Mr Mac
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"I am however surprised that few UK tour operators are promoting the island of Zanzibar as of yet."
A close friend's family own property in Zanzibar and we've talked about this several times. Looking at her photos there's not a lot of really good accommodation there - certainly not a lot of what the average UK holiday maker expects if they go to the Caribbean or Seychelles for example. It's still a bit of a "traveller" rather than a "tourist" destination. And so the numbers are relatively low
A close friend's family own property in Zanzibar and we've talked about this several times. Looking at her photos there's not a lot of really good accommodation there - certainly not a lot of what the average UK holiday maker expects if they go to the Caribbean or Seychelles for example. It's still a bit of a "traveller" rather than a "tourist" destination. And so the numbers are relatively low
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I would agree with your appraisal of Zanzibar. But that assessment would probably cover most of East Africa. You have to get down to South Africa before you get the type of hotels you get in the destinations you mentioned.
There are some very small relatively boutique hotels/ Lodges with prices to match but not the large developments you get in Seychelles/ Caribbean.
Personally I do like Africa because of that and do prefer it to the destinations you mentioned partly because it’s less developed.
Cheers
Mr Mac
I would agree with your appraisal of Zanzibar. But that assessment would probably cover most of East Africa. You have to get down to South Africa before you get the type of hotels you get in the destinations you mentioned.
There are some very small relatively boutique hotels/ Lodges with prices to match but not the large developments you get in Seychelles/ Caribbean.
Personally I do like Africa because of that and do prefer it to the destinations you mentioned partly because it’s less developed.
Cheers
Mr Mac
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I once got caaught in Hong Kong by a typhoon. among the other aircraft caught was aa BA vc-10 opeqrating something like Tokyo, Hong Kong, Seychelles, NAIROBI, joburg. BA also opearated Tokyo, Honolulu, San Fraancisco.\and night stopped in Honolulu (at BA expense A mixture of leftovers from the empire and range limitaations of early aircraft; for many yeara Nairobi ws THE fuel stop for everyone en route Europe-Southern Africa.
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I once got caaught in Hong Kong by a typhoon. among the other aircraft caught was aa BA vc-10 opeqrating something like Tokyo, Hong Kong, Seychelles, NAIROBI, joburg. BA also opearated Tokyo, Honolulu, San Fraancisco.\and night stopped in Honolulu (at BA expense A mixture of leftovers from the empire and range limitaations of early aircraft; for many yeara Nairobi ws THE fuel stop for everyone en route Europe-Southern Africa.
Here is the schedule for 1980.
BA36A Tokyo 16.15 Johannesburg 07.15+1
Days 16 VCX 3 Stops HKG, CMB, SEZ
Here is the schedule for 1983
BA05 Tokyo 16.40 Johannesburg 07.30+1
Day 5 747 3 Stops HKG, CMB, SEZ
Tokyo to Johannesburg had stopped by the late eighties.
The Tokyo, Honolulu, San Francisco, London routing had ceased by the time of the merger between BEA and BOAC in 1974. The Tokyo flights we're already routed via Anchorage before the merger took place.
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The Tokyo, Honolulu, San Francisco, London routing had ceased by the time of the merger between BEA and BOAC in 1974.
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With US prices as they are Florida etc is about to go over a cliff edge. Bookings a fraction of a year ago. Perhaps related. Was always an oddball. Maybe BACF could do it also as a W pattern? Will this be first time in years no BA service to LGW? Though we’re basing it on one twitter post and the it spreading to every forum like covid
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Some more information regarding Abu Dhabi.
I wonder if Abu Dhabi will resume for the IATA northern 2025/26 season.
Courtesy of aeroroutes.com
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/241221-bans25auh
I wonder if Abu Dhabi will resume for the IATA northern 2025/26 season.
Courtesy of aeroroutes.com
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/241221-bans25auh
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British Airways is to rename its frequent flyer programme “The British Airways Club” and, more significantly, tier points will now be earned based on revenue spend, rather than according to distance/cabin class.
https://www.britishairways.com/conte...h-airways-club
https://www.britishairways.com/conte...h-airways-club