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From: Blighty
Joined: Oct 2018
Aviation Qualifications: PPL
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From: Ferrara
A writer in the Times last week was saying that Generation Whatever (the younger lot) aren't as frightened of flying as the older generations - that's because they know its very very rare to be in an serious accident.
Joined: Apr 2010
Aviation Qualifications: Spotter
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From: London
I've never had a bad flight with BA, but I have no affection for them, they way I do for say, Virgin Atlantic.
It remains to be seen how the relaunched British Airways Club will affect loyalty.
As mentioned, Flyer Talk was on fire with complains - there's even a thread of people posting trips they've changed to other airlines in protest.
It remains to be seen how the relaunched British Airways Club will affect loyalty.
As mentioned, Flyer Talk was on fire with complains - there's even a thread of people posting trips they've changed to other airlines in protest.
Joined: Jan 2020
Aviation Qualifications: SLF
Posts: 81
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From: Manchester
I take anything these youtube "professional" vloggers / travel experts say or produce with a pinch of salt. For people that seemingly now fly arround the world as their full time job, they come across as rather simple, dramatic and unrealistic. Not to mention the over drama for clickbait to secure those numbers.
I have to fly with BA about 6 times a year for work, not massively frequent I know. But everytime I have, I found them to be fine, ok at dealing with problems and both the product in the back and front to meet expectations for the price paid.
They seem to be making huge investment to improve cabins and the product overall, but this gets overshadowed by poor decision making in other areas. (Brunch gate / Exec club)
I dont think BA are anywhere near as bad as some would make out, they have had to adapt with the times so yes in that respect they are not the worldclass flag carrier of old
... very few are?
They had some very difficult years under the direction of former managers but you could argue some of those brutal decisions helped them trim the fat, survive tough times and still be around today. They are consistently returning good financial results these days and playing catch up using ME carriers as a benchmark.
For every negative video a better known vlogger puts up, you can find 20 positive ones on their BA experience...they just dont get the clicks or publicity.
I have to fly with BA about 6 times a year for work, not massively frequent I know. But everytime I have, I found them to be fine, ok at dealing with problems and both the product in the back and front to meet expectations for the price paid.
They seem to be making huge investment to improve cabins and the product overall, but this gets overshadowed by poor decision making in other areas. (Brunch gate / Exec club)
I dont think BA are anywhere near as bad as some would make out, they have had to adapt with the times so yes in that respect they are not the worldclass flag carrier of old
... very few are?
They had some very difficult years under the direction of former managers but you could argue some of those brutal decisions helped them trim the fat, survive tough times and still be around today. They are consistently returning good financial results these days and playing catch up using ME carriers as a benchmark.
For every negative video a better known vlogger puts up, you can find 20 positive ones on their BA experience...they just dont get the clicks or publicity.
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 704
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From: Stafford
I take anything these youtube "professional" vloggers / travel experts say or produce with a pinch of salt. For people that seemingly now fly arround the world as their full time job, they come across as rather simple, dramatic and unrealistic. Not to mention the over drama for clickbait to secure those numbers.
Joined: Aug 2000
Aviation Qualifications: Non-Aircrew
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From: Cornwall
Flown three long haul flights with BA in the last six months, currently in Grenada before my next one home next week.
Apart from the fact I really don't like the 777 every sector has been perfectly fine.
Haven't flown Virgin to compare since standing in a long queue at check in they pulled all the staff out of the line took them to the front and checked them in. By the time I checked in with my wife and two young children they wanted to split us up
Put me off them probably unfairly for life.
BA just feels at home to me.
Apart from the fact I really don't like the 777 every sector has been perfectly fine.
Haven't flown Virgin to compare since standing in a long queue at check in they pulled all the staff out of the line took them to the front and checked them in. By the time I checked in with my wife and two young children they wanted to split us up
Put me off them probably unfairly for life.
BA just feels at home to me.
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,877
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From: UK
I take anything these youtube "professional" vloggers / travel experts say or produce with a pinch of salt. For people that seemingly now fly arround the world as their full time job, they come across as rather simple, dramatic and unrealistic. Not to mention the over drama for clickbait to secure those numbers.
I have to fly with BA about 6 times a year for work, not massively frequent I know. But everytime I have, I found them to be fine, ok at dealing with problems and both the product in the back and front to meet expectations for the price paid.
They seem to be making huge investment to improve cabins and the product overall, but this gets overshadowed by poor decision making in other areas. (Brunch gate / Exec club)
I dont think BA are anywhere near as bad as some would make out, they have had to adapt with the times so yes in that respect they are not the worldclass flag carrier of old
... very few are?
They had some very difficult years under the direction of former managers but you could argue some of those brutal decisions helped them trim the fat, survive tough times and still be around today. They are consistently returning good financial results these days and playing catch up using ME carriers as a benchmark.
For every negative video a better known vlogger puts up, you can find 20 positive ones on their BA experience...they just dont get the clicks or publicity.
I have to fly with BA about 6 times a year for work, not massively frequent I know. But everytime I have, I found them to be fine, ok at dealing with problems and both the product in the back and front to meet expectations for the price paid.
They seem to be making huge investment to improve cabins and the product overall, but this gets overshadowed by poor decision making in other areas. (Brunch gate / Exec club)
I dont think BA are anywhere near as bad as some would make out, they have had to adapt with the times so yes in that respect they are not the worldclass flag carrier of old
... very few are?
They had some very difficult years under the direction of former managers but you could argue some of those brutal decisions helped them trim the fat, survive tough times and still be around today. They are consistently returning good financial results these days and playing catch up using ME carriers as a benchmark.
For every negative video a better known vlogger puts up, you can find 20 positive ones on their BA experience...they just dont get the clicks or publicity.
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Does he not understand anything about GDPR? Hopefully someone involved will take legal action.
Paxing All Over The World
Joined: May 2001
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From: Hertfordshire, UK.
There is only one such flyer/ traveller that I follow.
This is not the place to send links, if you want to know who, then PM.
- He pays his own tickets and tells you how much and how he bought them.
- If he upgrades with points, he says how many.
- If he gets a freebie - he says so.
- Many times, he has travelled long haul in Y and compared with PE. Then C and F.
- He is broad in appreciation and criticism.
- He covers all modes of travel, planes, trains, coaches, ferries.
This is not the place to send links, if you want to know who, then PM.
Joined: Dec 2011
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From: London
What part of GDPR is applicable and has there ever been a successful court action in the UK on this?
It's that sort of nonsense over-reach meaning you have to click on cookie permissions for every single new website you visit in the EU.
Filming on board is technically forbidden on many (even Western) airlines terms and conditions to prevent wierdos filming cabin crew, and if you cross the line, they can stop you from flying with them. Do we really want to make lawyers rich to make that point?
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Which part of the GDPR means I need to get everyone's permission if I take a photo and they happen to be in it? Legal action based on what?
What part of GDPR is applicable and has there ever been a successful court action in the UK on this?
It's that sort of nonsense over-reach meaning you have to click on cookie permissions for every single new website you visit in the EU.
Filming on board is technically forbidden on many (even Western) airlines terms and conditions to prevent wierdos filming cabin crew, and if you cross the line, they can stop you from flying with them. Do we really want to make lawyers rich to make that point?
What part of GDPR is applicable and has there ever been a successful court action in the UK on this?
It's that sort of nonsense over-reach meaning you have to click on cookie permissions for every single new website you visit in the EU.
Filming on board is technically forbidden on many (even Western) airlines terms and conditions to prevent wierdos filming cabin crew, and if you cross the line, they can stop you from flying with them. Do we really want to make lawyers rich to make that point?
This is why you are very restricted how you use CCTV collected on domestic systems and doorbell cameras.
Joined: Dec 2011
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From: London
It's awfully wide and vague, point being it's open to challenge. Like when TV films in a public place, they have a (usually small) sign saying you consent to being on camera by simply being there. The GDPR is bureaucrats ****fest. Hoops and hurdles and often ambiguous with a stupid outcome, which is why you see criminal's faces being pixilated #endrant
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From: Ferrara
GDPR is like copyright - it means well but it's from a different age - it's like the old Tudor rules when your social rank defined what you could wear - impossible to police
World wide we take over 5 billion pictures A DAY now
And taking photos has never been illegal except in some very subscribed (think Official Secrets Act) circumstances
World wide we take over 5 billion pictures A DAY now
And taking photos has never been illegal except in some very subscribed (think Official Secrets Act) circumstances