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Disappointing to see no additional routes have been announced by Ryanair for W23. Prague & Lisbon were two successful routes prior to the pandemic.
Many of the main popular European Christmas destinations can only be reached from BRS, LHR or LGW. Surely there’s the demand in the South/ South West.
Many of the main popular European Christmas destinations can only be reached from BRS, LHR or LGW. Surely there’s the demand in the South/ South West.
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Disappointing to see no additional routes have been announced by Ryanair for W23. Prague & Lisbon were two successful routes prior to the pandemic.
Many of the main popular European Christmas destinations can only be reached from BRS, LHR or LGW. Surely there’s the demand in the South/ South West.
Many of the main popular European Christmas destinations can only be reached from BRS, LHR or LGW. Surely there’s the demand in the South/ South West.
lots of inbound traffic I suspect...................
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EasyJet have added a Sunday service to Geneva to cover the busy ski season during January and February
The Thursday service also has 2 flights to again cover during January and February
In total quite a large increase in flights to Geneva during this time with 8 services a week
The Thursday service also has 2 flights to again cover during January and February
In total quite a large increase in flights to Geneva during this time with 8 services a week
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Rumour has it that RYR are about to announce a 3rd aircraft for BOH…
Someone then needs to let BOH Airport management know then PDQ ---- they (BOH) cannot cope with 3 flights leaving at once.
Let alone 5 Based 737's possibly for S24 (3 x RYR, 2 x TUI) with at least 189 seats on each one.
BOH Hurn cannot cope summer 2023?
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TUI to SOU? could see it happening due to a virtual monopoly by RYR.
Impossible - TUI Airways cannot ever fly their 737-800s with full payloads, in or out of SOU, due to the short runway length (even with an extra 164m) plus factor in the clearway/obstacle limitations that cause additional issues (Trees, with Preservation Orders on them)
Only the A320 will be able to lift off an economical Payload from SOU once the 164m is added.
Before anyone pontificates, and with all due respect to our friends here on the Pprune BOH thread, SOU is not SEN.
There are limiting differences in operations for the Boeing, Vis-à-vis.
The TUI Holidays SOU operation (for both S23 and S24) is flown for them by BACF EMB 190s, with 98 seats (Twice weekly Palma charters)
For S24 TUI Airways will have a 2nd 738 based at BOH; and for currently this summer TUI Holidays uses Freebird AYT & DLM, Aegean RHO, and Alba Star PMI for extra weekly flights.
BOH management do now need to be strategic in their staffing levels for this summer and the expected future expansion -
The caveat being though is that Ryanair, on a whim, repeatedly cuts Routes, and culls Bases, whereas TUI is their bread and butter.
AVBH - I concur.
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Originally Posted by BWSBoy6
Rumour has it that RYR are about to announce a 3rd aircraft for BOH…
Someone then needs to let BOH Airport management know then PDQ ---- they (BOH) cannot cope with 3 flights leaving at once.
Let alone 5 Based 737's possibly for S24 (3 x RYR, 2 x TUI) with at least 189 seats on each one.
BOH Hurn cannot cope summer 2023?
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TUI to SOU? could see it happening due to a virtual monopoly by RYR.
Impossible - TUI Airways cannot ever fly their 737-800s with full payloads, in or out of SOU, due to the short runway length (even with an extra 164m) plus factor in the clearway/obstacle limitations that cause additional issues (Trees, with Preservation Orders on them)
Only the A320 will be able to lift off an economical Payload from SOU once the 164m is added.
Before anyone pontificates, and with all due respect to our friends here on the Pprune BOH thread, SOU is not SEN.
There are limiting differences in operations for the Boeing, Vis-à-vis.
The TUI Holidays SOU operation (for both S23 and S24) is flown for them by BACF EMB 190s, with 98 seats (Twice weekly Palma charters)
For S24 TUI Airways will have a 2nd 738 based at BOH; and for currently this summer TUI Holidays uses Freebird AYT & DLM, Aegean RHO, and Alba Star PMI for extra weekly flights.
BOH management do now need to be strategic in their staffing levels for this summer and the expected future expansion -
The caveat being though is that Ryanair, on a whim, repeatedly cuts Routes, and culls Bases, whereas TUI is their bread and butter.
AVBH - I concur.
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Every UK airport has a bad day somewhere along the line ( some airports way more than others) and the media love these type of headlines with stories of queue’s snaking out the door, 3 hrs to wait to be checked in , families missing flights and no staff to be seen anywhere etc …..
I don’t doubt for a minute this happened at BOH and I would hope plans have been put into place to stop this happening again
Almost every day at least 4 flights leave in the first wave sometimes 5 and to process 1000 people at a small airport like BOH is a struggle
The infrastructure in the terminal at certain times of the day is creaking and needs to be improved , something I suspect will happen but as a point already discussed , Ryanair can shut a route down as quickly as it starts it , and investment here has to balanced
I don’t doubt for a minute this happened at BOH and I would hope plans have been put into place to stop this happening again
Almost every day at least 4 flights leave in the first wave sometimes 5 and to process 1000 people at a small airport like BOH is a struggle
The infrastructure in the terminal at certain times of the day is creaking and needs to be improved , something I suspect will happen but as a point already discussed , Ryanair can shut a route down as quickly as it starts it , and investment here has to balanced
Every UK airport has a bad day somewhere along the line ( some airports way more than others) and the media love these type of headlines with stories of queue’s snaking out the door, 3 hrs to wait to be checked in , families missing flights and no staff to be seen anywhere etc …..
I don’t doubt for a minute this happened at BOH and I would hope plans have been put into place to stop this happening again
Almost every day at least 4 flights leave in the first wave sometimes 5 and to process 1000 people at a small airport like BOH is a struggle
The infrastructure in the terminal at certain times of the day is creaking and needs to be improved , something I suspect will happen but as a point already discussed , Ryanair can shut a route down as quickly as it starts it , and investment here has to balanced
I don’t doubt for a minute this happened at BOH and I would hope plans have been put into place to stop this happening again
Almost every day at least 4 flights leave in the first wave sometimes 5 and to process 1000 people at a small airport like BOH is a struggle
The infrastructure in the terminal at certain times of the day is creaking and needs to be improved , something I suspect will happen but as a point already discussed , Ryanair can shut a route down as quickly as it starts it , and investment here has to balanced
However, we all pay a premium to fly locally to AVOID the very issues that have plagued the other airports such as those scenes seen at BRS, LGW, STN, MAN, BHX and LBA.
If Ryanair is the problem (well I never) then BOH Airport must get a grip on this expansion soon, or there will be more Daily Echo rants which will put off the punters, especially the likes of the TUI ones, who are the folk that are loyal to Hurn;
Hence TUI's decision to base another 737 for summer 2024 (deferred from 2020, when the 2nd 737 was to be shared with EXT)
Ryanair was pivotal in royally screwing up well and truly Southend in the end - I would hate to see that happen here at BOH.
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Ultimately it comes down to money as I’m sure everybody knows.
Ryanair offer fantastic value for money with prices which often cannot be beaten with any other airline. Unfortunately as a result, IMO, revenue directly from the airline isn’t comparable to that of a flag carrier. Additionally, a number of flight schools are no longer operating from BOH now.
I personally believe BOH is in a difficult position when it comes to prioritising investments. It seems that a new radar has recently been installed. These don’t come cheap. Cargo is also starting to ramp up. This requires infrastructure & many resources. Again, doesn’t come cheap.
Ideally the airport would see a huge investment which would solve many of the issues reported in the Echo (Staffing issues, X-ray scanners, Baggage belts, Terminal expansion etc), however it all costs.
In the meantime, there’s many negative reviews on the Airport regarding drop off fees, cost of food and drink etc. It’s all revenue which helps fund new equipment & staffing. Just because the airport isn’t the size of LHR, it still has much of the same equipment to remain functional and compliant.
S23 will be testing for the airport. I’m hopeful that improvements will be made in time for S24.
Ryanair offer fantastic value for money with prices which often cannot be beaten with any other airline. Unfortunately as a result, IMO, revenue directly from the airline isn’t comparable to that of a flag carrier. Additionally, a number of flight schools are no longer operating from BOH now.
I personally believe BOH is in a difficult position when it comes to prioritising investments. It seems that a new radar has recently been installed. These don’t come cheap. Cargo is also starting to ramp up. This requires infrastructure & many resources. Again, doesn’t come cheap.
Ideally the airport would see a huge investment which would solve many of the issues reported in the Echo (Staffing issues, X-ray scanners, Baggage belts, Terminal expansion etc), however it all costs.
In the meantime, there’s many negative reviews on the Airport regarding drop off fees, cost of food and drink etc. It’s all revenue which helps fund new equipment & staffing. Just because the airport isn’t the size of LHR, it still has much of the same equipment to remain functional and compliant.
S23 will be testing for the airport. I’m hopeful that improvements will be made in time for S24.
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"However, we all pay a premium to fly locally to AVOIDthe very issues that have plagued the other airports "
perhaps there are a lot of people in the area who fancy cheaper travel?
perhaps there are a lot of people in the area who fancy cheaper travel?
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Ryanair was pivotal in royally screwing up well and truly Southend in the end - I would hate to see that happen here at BOH.
Easyjet were literally stunned by that and their commitment to SEN (strong to that point) was never the same again. Had WB not done the dirty on them (as they saw it) then I am convinced easyJet base in SEN would never have been at risk.
It’s not Ryanair’s fault or Ryanair’s doing - more an example of how fixation with bonuses can drive behaviours of certain individuals.
That’s not quite how it happened at SEN. Warwick Brady (running Stobart at the time, now at Swissport) was desperate to have a good news story to announce at SEN to help the share price on which his bonus depended. EasyJet couldn’t or wouldn’t deliver the good news he needed, so he did a deal with his other ex-employer Ryanair to get them to provide growth at SEN.
Easyjet were literally stunned by that and their commitment to SEN (strong to that point) was never the same again. Had WB not done the dirty on them (as they saw it) then I am convinced easyJet base in SEN would never have been at risk.
It’s not Ryanair’s fault or Ryanair’s doing - more an example of how fixation with bonuses can drive behaviours of certain individuals.
Easyjet were literally stunned by that and their commitment to SEN (strong to that point) was never the same again. Had WB not done the dirty on them (as they saw it) then I am convinced easyJet base in SEN would never have been at risk.
It’s not Ryanair’s fault or Ryanair’s doing - more an example of how fixation with bonuses can drive behaviours of certain individuals.
although I still feel that IMO Ryanair were complicit in the eventual demise of the SEN airport.
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Bournemouth handled 101,150 passengers in May, I believe the first time that the May figure has ever exceeded 100,000. The previous highest was back in May 2008 with 99,828.
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Good news about the passenger numbers for sure especially at the beginning of the season
Ryanair have added extra flights for the October half term to Edinburgh and Faro
Ryanair have added extra flights for the October half term to Edinburgh and Faro
Is the rumour also true that RYR at BOH is so busy that crew are having to be ‘bussed’ in from other bases to ensure adequate cover? If so, this can surely only be good news for the industry - and particularly the airport.
Anyone in the know able to confirm this?
Anyone in the know able to confirm this?