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Old 17th Aug 2023, 19:57
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Agree FF. From memory a road is considered a 4.8m high obstacle and measuring on G Earth the 08 Threshold is over 500m from the road so I'm sure there is scope to move the threshold further west without the road being considered an obstacle. Maybe the road on the north side is the reason the threshold is where it is as it's closest point to the runway c/l is around 120m which is inside the runway strip. Perhaps this is the issue that's being re-assessed.
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Old 17th Aug 2023, 21:49
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There used to be a clearway procedure for improved 26 performance with the traffic lights in use. It's 18 years since I operated out of BOH so I don't know if that is still an option.
We were asked if we needed it for an A300 going empty to cologne. No was the answer.
The only time I've seen the traffic lights on was one night going to work at around 1 am. I stopped and waited a while, but the runway lights were off so I carried on to work. I asked one of the ops guys to ask the tower why they were on. The reply was "Oops, I tested them when I came on shift and forgot to turn them off again".
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Old 21st Aug 2023, 09:48
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EasyJet have increased their service to Geneva by adding a complete Sunday service from Dec - March

This is the biggest increase for many years and now takes the service up to 8 flights a week ( daily ex Wednesday) Thursday and Saturday seeing 2 x flights

Ryanair have also added numerous extra flights to their schedule to cover the Xmas holidays with Krakow services seeing an extra 12 flights alone



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Old 21st Aug 2023, 11:02
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I’ve noticed Dublin still isn’t on sale for the winter!

It would be a blow if the route is dropped for winter
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Old 21st Aug 2023, 12:09
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Originally Posted by MARKEYD

Ryanair have also added numerous extra flights to their schedule to cover the Xmas holidays with Krakow services seeing an extra 12 flights alone
Is it possible, therefore, the rumour about a third RYR aircraft being based at BOH might not be that wide of the mark? Looks like there might be a potential need, unless these extra flights are planned to utilise the post summer slack?
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Old 21st Aug 2023, 12:22
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I’ve noticed Dublin still isn’t on sale for the winter!

It would be a blow if the route is dropped for winter
Both Dublin & Budapest. Two popular winter city breaks. I was hoping a continuation of these services along with the addition of some more seasonal routes.
 
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Since posting about the EasyJet Geneva route earlier today , they have added another flight on Sunday for 7 weeks taking the route to double daily on Thursday, Saturday and Sunday

A massive increase in flights and obviously keen to capitalise on this lucrative route

Shame they couldn’t add perhaps Grenoble or Salzburg again
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Old 21st Aug 2023, 20:55
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Originally Posted by MARKEYD
Since posting about the EasyJet Geneva route earlier today , they have added another flight on Sunday for 7 weeks taking the route to double daily on Thursday, Saturday and Sunday

A massive increase in flights and obviously keen to capitalise on this lucrative route

Shame they couldn’t add perhaps Grenoble or Salzburg again
Any further easyJet expansion is likely to come from SOU moving forward. Rumour is they are expanding from there for next summer!
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Old 21st Aug 2023, 21:04
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I think we all know that , it’s the worst kept secret to be honest
Was just posting about EasyJet increasing the Geneva route from BOH
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Old 22nd Aug 2023, 08:57
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Originally Posted by Musket90
Agree FF. From memory a road is considered a 4.8m high obstacle and measuring on G Earth the 08 Threshold is over 500m from the road so I'm sure there is scope to move the threshold further west without the road being considered an obstacle. Maybe the road on the north side is the reason the threshold is where it is as it's closest point to the runway c/l is around 120m which is inside the runway strip. Perhaps this is the issue that's being re-assessed.
IMHO the only way that the 08 THR can be moved further west is for the B3073 and Chapel Gate roads to be diverted.

The origin of the approach surface, which should be obstacle-free, starts 60 before the THR at a 1:50 slope. Using the required road + 4.8 metres the 1:50 would clear the road. However, something that is not mentioned is the Runway End Safety Area (RESA) which must be provided in addition to the 60 metre runway strip end. The RESA is designed to provide an obstacle-free area in the case of an undershoot. The minimum RESA length is 90 metres, BOH appear to be providing 240 metres.

The chances of BOH being able to provide a safety case to reduce the current RESA are at least minimal.
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Old 22nd Aug 2023, 09:13
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Re. my post #442.
Went past yesterday around 1400 and the lights were flashing. A Draken Falcon 20 took off. Never seen the lights on for them before.
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Old 22nd Aug 2023, 09:52
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RESA

“The chances of BOH being able to provide a safety case to reduce the current RESA are at least minimal.”

Agree, although this has been achieved at LCY with EMAS deployment. Quite a bit about this on the web:

https://airspacechange.caa.co.uk/Pub...alArea?pID=517


Unlikely at BOH but not impossible

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Old 22nd Aug 2023, 10:16
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Originally Posted by Flitefone
“The chances of BOH being able to provide a safety case to reduce the current RESA are at least minimal.”

Agree, although this has been achieved at LCY with EMAS deployment. Quite a bit about this on the web:

https://airspacechange.caa.co.uk/Pub...alArea?pID=517


Unlikely at BOH but not impossible

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Apart from about 90 metres of grass between the start of 08 TORA and the 26 LLZ antenna, there is nowhere to install EMAS as it already paved surface.
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Old 24th Aug 2023, 11:54
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Originally Posted by MARKEYD
Since posting about the EasyJet Geneva route earlier today
A massive increase in flights and obviously keen to capitalise on this lucrative route

Shame they couldn’t add perhaps Grenoble or Salzburg again
Easyjet Swiss have bases only at GVA BSL and ZRH - anyone else coming to BOH from GNB CMF or SZG will be a SKI charter such as for TUI/Crystal and Inghams Holidays.
EasyJet Europe do not have bases at GNB or SZB - they do have bases at VCE MXP LYS and TLS
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Old 24th Aug 2023, 12:58
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Originally Posted by rog747
Easyjet Swiss have bases only at GVA BSL and ZRH - anyone else coming to BOH from GNB CMF or SZG will be a SKI charter such as for TUI/Crystal and Inghams Holidays.
EasyJet Europe do not have bases at GNB or SZB - they do have bases at VCE MXP LYS and TLS
easyJet doesn't have a base at ZRH. Just GVA & BSL. EZY flew briefly to GNB from BOH years ago on a 'W' pattern.
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Old 24th Aug 2023, 13:16
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Originally Posted by ezyBoh
easyJet doesn't have a base at ZRH. Just GVA & BSL. EZY flew briefly to GNB from BOH years ago on a 'W' pattern.

Thanks, I had it in my head that did have a ZRH base - cheers for the heads-up.
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Old 1st Sep 2023, 14:48
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According to a contact of mine Ryanair is proposing a doubling of the number of aircraft at BOH next summer to ‘4 at least’, were his words.

Could be in order to dissuade SOU expansion which could threaten to eat into the med demand.

Interesting times!
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According to a contact of mine Ryanair is proposing a doubling of the number of aircraft at BOH next summer to ‘4 at least’, were his words.

Could be in order to dissuade SOU expansion which could threaten to eat into the med demand.

Interesting times!
I would imagine for this to be achievable, the airport would need to make some serious investments with regards to the departures & arrivals terminals, especially since TUI are increasing their base numbers. A potential 6 737s departing within an hour of each other would be extremely testing on current infrastructure.

That said, It would certainly be great to see Bournemouth achieving growth on this scale though.
 
Old 1st Sep 2023, 18:43
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That would potentially mean 1.5m passengers using Bournemouth in 2024 and still with no public transport (bus) option!

I would expect the car park would need to be expanded too?
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Impressive PAX numbers for June ‘23. 114,958 had passed through the airport.
Having had a cursory look over previous years, it seems a significant increase in numbers.
 

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