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Old 19th Jun 2023, 10:38
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Qatar W23

QR appear to be making adjustment to operating equipment on certain days. 789 will operate both flights on T,Th & S instaead of previously announced 1 x 788 and 1 x 789. 773 also listed on certain dates in Sept. Presumably increased demand from students. All subject to further change.
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Old 19th Jun 2023, 12:09
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Pilot arrested, Delta flight at Edinburgh cancelled (travelmole.com)
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Old 20th Jun 2023, 09:39
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SeanM reporting large expansion to/from UK and Turkey in 2024 from SunExpress. One new route so far from EDI. Dalaman - 2 x weekly from April 2024. Antalya, currently is not bookable. Increase in frequency expected.

* Antalya increased to daily. Izmir retained compared to previous short summer 2023 operations. 2 x weekly in S24.
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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 13:55
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KLM - W23

Contrary to ACL report, KLM appear to have reduced frequency or seats in W23. Previously available to book 5 x daily is now reduced to 4 x daily. 2 of which is showing as being served by E190 or E195 aircraft.

AF W23

Air France have also reduced previously available to book 3 x daily to 2 x daily in W23.

Although things can change, disappointing to see what appears to be a sky team cut at EDI. Particularly when other UK airports such as NCL and MAN is reported to be line for increased activity.
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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 14:53
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?Both routes have EZY as well? Fewer transferring pax?
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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 21:41
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Reported on other forums that the first EDI-MCO service of S23 went out with 382 on board. Virgin’s high density A351 seats 397.
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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 21:57
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
Sunexpress

SeanM reporting large expansion to/from UK and Turkey in 2024 from SunExpress. One new route so far from EDI. Dalaman - 2 x weekly from April 2024. Antalya, currently is not bookable. Increase in frequency expected.

* Antalya increased to daily. Izmir retained compared to previous short summer 2023 operations. 2 x weekly in S24.
Am I right to assume that these drastic increases in holiday flights to Turkey (both Sun Express and Freebird) are to fill the accommodation left vacant by the missing Russians? And that they are mainly sold through specialist tour operators?
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Old 23rd Jun 2023, 07:56
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No - Turkey is currently overrun with Russian Tourists - instead of heading to W & C Europe and the Med (Spain especially) they're going south

And the collapsing Turkish currency make sit a bargain

Around 7 million Russians are expected to visit Türkiye this year, up from 5.5 million in 2022 as more flights are planned between the two countries. Some 171 flights from Russia to Türkiye will take place each day during this summer season, according to a report on ekonomim.com.
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Old 23rd Jun 2023, 08:56
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
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Reported on other forums that the first EDI-MCO service of S23 went out with 382 on board. Virgin’s high density A351 seats 397.
You'd hope so with schools breaking up this week and route previously being up to 3x 455 seat 747 per week.
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Old 23rd Jun 2023, 15:39
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April 23

Some pax numbers and approx LF’s for long haul routes.

April pax total - 1,198,258 (+29% on Apr 22)

TK - Istanbul 9673 or 92% (+36% on Apr 22)
QR - Doha 18,422 or 95% (+143% on Apr 22)
UA - Chicago 141 or 84%
UA - Newark 9,623 or 95% (+3% on Apr 22)
DL - New York JFK 10,297 or 96%



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Old 23rd Jun 2023, 22:16
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How can UA have a LF for Chicago if UA118 didn’t resume operations until 5th May?
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Old 23rd Jun 2023, 23:10
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
You'd hope so with schools breaking up this week and route previously being up to 3x 455 seat 747 per week.
Perhaps in some areas but lots of schools don’t break up until middle-end of next week.
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Old 24th Jun 2023, 02:01
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Originally Posted by ROC10
Perhaps in some areas but lots of schools don’t break up until middle-end of next week.
it’s just nice to see that A350 full. Having been on a VS A35K what a product it is.
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Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels
How can UA have a LF for Chicago if UA118 didn’t resume operations until 5th May?
B763 N674UA UAL938 ORD-LHR diverted in on the 12th April. I suspect that's what's been picked up in the CAA data so you're right that whatever the load factor calculation is, it isn't a calculation for UA118.

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I assume you mean ORD-LHR, because ORD-EWR-EDI is one heck of a diversion 😂
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Originally Posted by laviation
I assume you mean ORD-LHR, because ORD-EWR-EDI is one heck of a diversion 😂
I do indeed thanks and have corrected my typo.
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Originally Posted by tartan 201
B763 N674UA UAL938 ORD-LHR diverted in on the 12th April. I suspect that's what's been picked up in the CAA data so you're right that whatever the load factor calculation is, it isn't a calculation for UA118.
ah yes I remember now, thanks 🙂
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Old 24th Jun 2023, 19:39
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NCL-
doesn’t have any direct flights to the USA so maybe EDI is suffering with KLM/AF compared to NCL market.

also 2x QR won’t help either.
more direct flights you have then the less flights are needing for connecting pax




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KLM - W23

Contrary to ACL report, KLM appear to have reduced frequency or seats in W23. Previously available to book 5 x daily is now reduced to 4 x daily. 2 of which is showing as being served by E190 or E195 aircraft.

AF W23

Air France have also reduced previously available to book 3 x daily to 2 x daily in W23.

Although things can change, disappointing to see what appears to be a sky team cut at EDI. Particularly when other UK airports such as NCL and MAN is reported to be line for increased activity.
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Old 24th Jun 2023, 22:27
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Was a bit of a struggle today it seems with the widebody aircraft. Delta had a 767 on Stand 12, The afternoon Qatar waited over an hour on a stand becoming available. This was also with the Air Canada and Delta BOS cancelled in & out or it could have got really messy.
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Old 24th Jun 2023, 23:11
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A B767 on 12 is manageable, no airbridge is not a huge calamity all things considered. Was the Qatar delayed due to other wide bodies or narrow bodies running late?
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