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[GeorgeNTravels]

Originally Posted by tartan 201

Bari and Poitiers didn't operate last winter so them not operating this coming winter isn't a 'cut'. BFS will operate daily this winter (didn't operate last winter) and STN will operate more frequently than last winter, so those changes alone will probably balance out most of the capacity lost by ceasing to serve the other destinations you list (some of which might return for S24 anyway).

they are shown in the coordination report as cut meaning at least 1 flight operated last season.

Should also point out that FR’s schedule from EDI this winter is sporadic with 11 aircraft needed Friday - Monday.

but only 4 aircraft required in Tuesday, 5 on Wednesday and 6 on Thursday.

With their only route that they have slots for but not announced being a 2x week service to Rovaniemi in Finland it’s challenging to understand how the ops department are going to run things this winter.

[tartan 201]

Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels

they are shown in the coordination report as cut meaning at least 1 flight operated last season.

Not sure it necessarily means that. The slot report doesn't list BRI or PIS as cancelled destinations for the upcoming winter season (see list below) and there's no entry for those destinations in the CAA data from November '22 to February '23 (inclusive), meaning that those two routes didn't operate in those months.

Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels

Should also point out that FR’s schedule from EDI this winter is sporadic with 11 aircraft needed Friday - Monday.

but only 4 aircraft required in Tuesday, 5 on Wednesday and 6 on Thursday.

Pretty sure they've had a similar pattern of low utilisation Tuesday to Thursday in previous years, especially in January and February.

Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels

With their only route that they have slots for but not announced being a 2x week service to Rovaniemi in Finland it’s challenging to understand how the ops department are going to run things this winter.

There was no mention in the slot report of Tirana, but it hasn't stopped them launching it with an EDI-based aircraft on Tuesdays and Saturdays for this coming winter. Presumably the 'ops department' will manage just fine to run things as they see fit.

[Planeraz]

Finnair

S24

Increasing to daily from current 4/5 x weekly.

credit Sean M

[Planeraz]

Etihad

A response below to a general question sent on Twitter about the chances of Etihad returning to Edinburgh. Some generic stuff for sure but could their be something more in this?



Hi there. Keep watching this space, you never know. Edinburgh is a destination many of our guests regularly talk about. We're currently working on adding new routes to our destinations and resuming some others! You can find out more about our destination and network via this link https://etihad.com/en-ae/travel-updates/our-network. You can book your ticket on our website through this link http://bit.ly/ENNewBooking. Make sure you also check the journey requirements via this link https://bit.ly/TravelGuideEN

[ld0595]

Originally Posted by Planeraz

Etihad

A response below to a general question sent on Twitter about the chances of Etihad returning to Edinburgh. Some generic stuff for sure but could their be something more in this?



Hi there. Keep watching this space, you never know. Edinburgh is a destination many of our guests regularly talk about. We're currently working on adding new routes to our destinations and resuming some others! You can find out more about our destination and network via this link https://etihad.com/en-ae/travel-updates/our-network. You can book your ticket on our website through this link http://bit.ly/ENNewBooking. Make sure you also check the journey requirements via this link https://bit.ly/TravelGuideEN

I wouldn't look into it much. It's a very generic response and I've seen countless vague responses to similar questions from many airlines over the years.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

My favourite PR comms, one that rather broke my heart at the time, was United Airlines' full support for their GLA-IAD route which had just been tagged onto AMS, with fluff about code-sharing over CPH with partner BMA and their ongoing commitment to Scotland the literal day before the service was announced to be ending.
Social meeja execs don't have any insight until something is released from way higher up the chain.

[nighthawk117]

Always amazes me that people even bother to ask social media, let alone put any wieght to the response. The social media team is probably outsourced, even if it isnt, they'll be so removed from the network planning team that they just wont have a clue whats going on.

[VickersVicount]

its probably the same people who keep asking them about a rehash of the previously withdrawn Etihad route… Some may very well be posting here..

[laviation]

I do hope Wizz Air launch Abu Dhabi -> UK with their XLRs, this presents a great opportunity especially with their ever expanding eastern network .. cheap connections practically anywhere in Central Asia

[pabely]

Originally Posted by laviation

I do hope Wizz Air launch Abu Dhabi -> UK with their XLRs, this presents a great opportunity especially with their ever expanding eastern network .. cheap connections practically anywhere in Central Asia

If it does happen it will be proved at LGW first before any consideration anywhere else in UK. LTN is always a proving ground for new routes but not sure a 321XLR fully fueled with 230 pax would get off the runway comfortably.

[inOban]

Originally Posted by Planeraz

Finnair

S24

Increasing to daily from current 4/5 x weekly.

credit Sean M

This route must be being severely affected by the closure of Russian airspace to western airlines as I assume many of is pax were in transit to China or Japan

[A350Saltire]

Originally Posted by VickersVicount

its probably the same people who keep asking them about a rehash of the previously withdrawn Etihad route… Some may very well be posting here..

Agreed. Also those messaging airline’s repeatedly on Twitter complaining that they no longer serve their local airport. Embarrassing!

[tictack67]

Originally Posted by inOban

This route must be being severely affected by the closure of Russian airspace to western airlines as I assume many of is pax were in transit to China or Japan

This is an increase in flights

[inOban]

But only back to pre-covid level. And it's often still in an Embraer rather than an Airbus.

[tictack67]

Originally Posted by inOban

But only back to pre-covid level. And it's often still in an Embraer rather than an Airbus.

Three times this week it's been an Airbus, anyway your right a service back to pre covid levels on a daily service on a modern fleet is horrific news.

[inOban]

I'm delighted but don't overhype it. It's been one of the slower routes to recover.

[laviation]

The reason for the cancellation of yesterday’s JFK was a drunk Delta pilot !

[Delight]

Tirana

Just noticed that Ryanair are starting Edinburgh to Tirana at the end of the year, but the journey times look odd. ~4.5 hours one way and ~2.5 the other. It is that likely to be stop somewhere?

[PinOnTheRight]

Originally Posted by Delight

Just noticed that Ryanair are starting Edinburgh to Tirana at the end of the year, but the journey times look odd. ~4.5 hours one way and ~2.5 the other. It is that likely to be stop somewhere?

Likely should be 3.5 hours each way and some sort of discrepancy in the time zone setting for Tirana.

[jensdad]

Originally Posted by Delight

Just noticed that Ryanair are starting Edinburgh to Tirana at the end of the year, but the journey times look odd. ~4.5 hours one way and ~2.5 the other. It is that likely to be stop somewhere?

I just checked that and yes, you're right. Could it be that the folks who put the times in the website don't know that Albania is only 1 hour ahead of UK time? The flight times (i.e dep. 1955, arr. 2120 for the flight I checked) look correct, but the flight durations (it says 2h35m) look wrong.