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[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by VickersVicount

quite a lot of capacity to UK now on Ethiopian. Wonder if LGW route would impact on MAN service numbers which is also due for increase. Im guessing some overlap. Direct maybe preferable to double drop in Switzerland.

Surely the LHR service would have more of an impact on MAN than LGW? Not sure where the overlap would be?

[VickersVicount]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

Surely the LHR service would have more of an impact on MAN than LGW? Not sure where the overlap would be?

Lets see. LGW will be marketed as new one-stop, price conscious extra UK capacity. Think Midlands and south..

[SWBKCB]

I never think about the Midlands!

And the MAN flights don't seem any cheaper than LHR

[True Blue]

Originally Posted by JW95

I wouldn't be surprised to see them increase frequency on some of the existing routes that are currently only one daily or less. JFK, LAX and MIA come to mind.

All of the routes served this summer move to daily flights in S24.

[JW95]

Delta Airlines

Delta is to suspend LGW-JFK for the winter.

Source:

Twitter

[VickersVicount]

…expect more of this to come

[JW95]

Originally Posted by VickersVicount

…expect more of this to come

More suspensions on LGW-JFK? Or generally? I really hope not- LGW has been doing well this year in bringing back lost long haul capacity, and it would be a shame to see some of this disappear (again)

[Cuillin Hills]

Check out the difference between London Gatwick and London Stansted departures this afternoon, on Flightradar24, following the UK ATC failure.

Gatwick EZY and BA short haul almost all cancelled whilst nearly all Stansted scheduled flights (particularly Jet2 and Ryanair) operating (albeit with delays) and just the occasional RYR cancellation.

[AVGEEK7812]

Originally Posted by Cuillin Hills

Check out the difference between London Gatwick and London Stansted departures this afternoon, on Flightradar24, following the UK ATC failure.

Gatwick EZY and BA short haul almost all cancelled whilst nearly all Stansted scheduled flights (particularly Jet2 and Ryanair) operating (albeit with delays) and just the occasional RYR cancellation.

STN departures get out on time usually aswell for the most part. LGW is a disgrace. LGW-SNN for example is always delayed and has a knock on affect in SNN threw out the day.

[vectisman]

Originally Posted by AVGEEK7812

STN departures get out on time usually aswell for the most part. LGW is a disgrace. LGW-SNN for example is always delayed and has a knock on affect in SNN threw out the day.

For goodness sake get some perspective! The operations at Gatwick are greater and more sophisticated than those at Stansted. There were many more aircraft and crews out of position plus lots of aircraft stuck at gates. It was also
an ATC equipment failure not an airport failure.

[AVGEEK7812]

Originally Posted by vectisman

For goodness sake get some perspective! The operations at Gatwick are greater and more sophisticated than those at Stansted. There were many more aircraft and crews out of position plus lots of aircraft stuck at gates. It was also
an ATC equipment failure not an airport failure.

Oh bore off. I meant in general when there are no issues. Not just today.

Pity you cant take someone elses opinion. Typcial cheeky pprune reply

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by vectisman

For goodness sake get some perspective! The operations at Gatwick are greater and more sophisticated than those at Stansted. There were many more aircraft and crews out of position plus lots of aircraft stuck at gates. It was also
an ATC equipment failure not an airport failure.

Ryanair, easyJet and BA EUROFLYER all operate point to point in a similar short haul market. Ryanair's STN operation is comparable to easyJet's LGW one. Why do you say LGW is more complex? It's not at all! Not sure why one got more away than the other but aside from location there's not much operationally between the three, except perhaps BA lacking economy of scale.

[pabely]

Don't know how up to date this is, a quick Google says RYR STN 43, EZY LGW 84 units.

[AirLCY]

Originally Posted by pabely

Don't know how up to date this is, a quick Google says RYR STN 43, EZY LGW 84 units.

RYR sounds low, but don’t forget the away based aircraft make up a huge proportion of the flying compared to EZY at LGW

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by AirLCY

RYR sounds low, but don’t forget the away based aircraft make up a huge proportion of the flying compared to EZY at LGW

Indeed, also all FR overnight at STN whereas I believe some EZY are elsewhere.

[pabely]

First EZY domestic arrivals at LGW will often then do a European mainline leg(s) and might not return to it's overnight base until much later in the day.
Thus more complicated than RYR which would just be back to it's base and then another sector from it's base.

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by pabely

First EZY domestic arrivals at LGW will often then do a European mainline leg(s) and might not return to it's overnight base until much later in the day.
Thus more complicated than RYR which would just be back to it's base and then another sector from it's base.

If an aircraft is based elsewhere so has less exposure to LGW that actually gives less excuse for delay, not more.

[pabely]

Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1

If an aircraft is based elsewhere so has less exposure to LGW that actually gives less excuse for delay, not more.

Like the RUK BFS & EDI first arrivals into STN today which were canx?

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by pabely

Like the RUK BFS & EDI first arrivals into STN today which were canx?

Congratulations for picking a notably bad day which has been well documented. How about general performance over a season?

[CabinCrewe]

slightly surprised LGW still down 15% pax numbers vs pre covid. Sounded like they were otherwise going gangbusters.