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Old 5th Aug 2023, 15:11
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
quite a lot of capacity to UK now on Ethiopian. Wonder if LGW route would impact on MAN service numbers which is also due for increase. Im guessing some overlap. Direct maybe preferable to double drop in Switzerland.
Surely the LHR service would have more of an impact on MAN than LGW? Not sure where the overlap would be?
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Old 5th Aug 2023, 16:13
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Surely the LHR service would have more of an impact on MAN than LGW? Not sure where the overlap would be?
Lets see. LGW will be marketed as new one-stop, price conscious extra UK capacity. Think Midlands and south..
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Old 5th Aug 2023, 18:23
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I never think about the Midlands!

And the MAN flights don't seem any cheaper than LHR
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Old 5th Aug 2023, 20:32
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Originally Posted by JW95
I wouldn't be surprised to see them increase frequency on some of the existing routes that are currently only one daily or less. JFK, LAX and MIA come to mind.
All of the routes served this summer move to daily flights in S24.
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Old 13th Aug 2023, 11:36
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Delta Airlines

Delta is to suspend LGW-JFK for the winter.

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Old 13th Aug 2023, 13:33
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…expect more of this to come
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Old 13th Aug 2023, 13:58
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
…expect more of this to come
More suspensions on LGW-JFK? Or generally? I really hope not- LGW has been doing well this year in bringing back lost long haul capacity, and it would be a shame to see some of this disappear (again)
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Old 28th Aug 2023, 16:55
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Check out the difference between London Gatwick and London Stansted departures this afternoon, on Flightradar24, following the UK ATC failure.

Gatwick EZY and BA short haul almost all cancelled whilst nearly all Stansted scheduled flights (particularly Jet2 and Ryanair) operating (albeit with delays) and just the occasional RYR cancellation.
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Old 28th Aug 2023, 18:48
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Originally Posted by Cuillin Hills
Check out the difference between London Gatwick and London Stansted departures this afternoon, on Flightradar24, following the UK ATC failure.

Gatwick EZY and BA short haul almost all cancelled whilst nearly all Stansted scheduled flights (particularly Jet2 and Ryanair) operating (albeit with delays) and just the occasional RYR cancellation.
STN departures get out on time usually aswell for the most part. LGW is a disgrace. LGW-SNN for example is always delayed and has a knock on affect in SNN threw out the day.
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Old 28th Aug 2023, 21:25
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Originally Posted by AVGEEK7812
STN departures get out on time usually aswell for the most part. LGW is a disgrace. LGW-SNN for example is always delayed and has a knock on affect in SNN threw out the day.
For goodness sake get some perspective! The operations at Gatwick are greater and more sophisticated than those at Stansted. There were many more aircraft and crews out of position plus lots of aircraft stuck at gates. It was also
an ATC equipment failure not an airport failure.
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Old 28th Aug 2023, 21:30
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Originally Posted by vectisman
For goodness sake get some perspective! The operations at Gatwick are greater and more sophisticated than those at Stansted. There were many more aircraft and crews out of position plus lots of aircraft stuck at gates. It was also
an ATC equipment failure not an airport failure.
Oh bore off. I meant in general when there are no issues. Not just today.

Pity you cant take someone elses opinion. Typcial cheeky pprune reply
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Old 28th Aug 2023, 21:47
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Originally Posted by vectisman
For goodness sake get some perspective! The operations at Gatwick are greater and more sophisticated than those at Stansted. There were many more aircraft and crews out of position plus lots of aircraft stuck at gates. It was also
an ATC equipment failure not an airport failure.
Ryanair, easyJet and BA EUROFLYER all operate point to point in a similar short haul market. Ryanair's STN operation is comparable to easyJet's LGW one. Why do you say LGW is more complex? It's not at all! Not sure why one got more away than the other but aside from location there's not much operationally between the three, except perhaps BA lacking economy of scale.
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Old 29th Aug 2023, 07:56
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Don't know how up to date this is, a quick Google says RYR STN 43, EZY LGW 84 units.
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Originally Posted by pabely
Don't know how up to date this is, a quick Google says RYR STN 43, EZY LGW 84 units.
RYR sounds low, but don’t forget the away based aircraft make up a huge proportion of the flying compared to EZY at LGW
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Old 29th Aug 2023, 11:09
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Originally Posted by AirLCY
RYR sounds low, but don’t forget the away based aircraft make up a huge proportion of the flying compared to EZY at LGW
Indeed, also all FR overnight at STN whereas I believe some EZY are elsewhere.
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First EZY domestic arrivals at LGW will often then do a European mainline leg(s) and might not return to it's overnight base until much later in the day.
Thus more complicated than RYR which would just be back to it's base and then another sector from it's base.
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Old 29th Aug 2023, 14:26
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Originally Posted by pabely
First EZY domestic arrivals at LGW will often then do a European mainline leg(s) and might not return to it's overnight base until much later in the day.
Thus more complicated than RYR which would just be back to it's base and then another sector from it's base.
If an aircraft is based elsewhere so has less exposure to LGW that actually gives less excuse for delay, not more.
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Old 29th Aug 2023, 14:59
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
If an aircraft is based elsewhere so has less exposure to LGW that actually gives less excuse for delay, not more.
Like the RUK BFS & EDI first arrivals into STN today which were canx?
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Old 29th Aug 2023, 16:59
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Originally Posted by pabely
Like the RUK BFS & EDI first arrivals into STN today which were canx?
Congratulations for picking a notably bad day which has been well documented. How about general performance over a season?
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Old 30th Aug 2023, 21:12
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slightly surprised LGW still down 15% pax numbers vs pre covid. Sounded like they were otherwise going gangbusters.
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