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Old 1st Aug 2023, 06:33
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Originally Posted by adfly
This isn't the grand headline people are hoping for but the following airlines have S24 flights on sale at the moment from Southampton already. Good to see Loganair maintaining higher frequencies, and let's remember that they have previously publicly stated that the runway extension will benefit their E145 operations.

Are Lingus/Emerald
Belfast - ~2 daily
Dublin - ~2 daily
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Looks similar to S23 - Alicante/Bergerac/Faro/Limoges/Palma/Malaga 1-2 weekly
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Jersey - 3 daily
KLM Cityhopper
Amsterdam - 2 daily
Loganair
Edinburgh - ~5 daily
Glasgow - ~5 daily
Newcastle - ~3 daily
TUI
Palma - 2 weekly (BA Cityflyer)
Noted that not a single route listed needs that runway extension.
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 06:43
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Noted that not a single route listed needs that runway extension.
Indeed, and that is a 'given' I'm afraid for now;

A lot can happen in the next two Quarters -
Much depends on the Economy, Inflation figures and the next Election (plus World events)
I have no wish to pontificate on Politics here with regard to a local Airport's expansion, but IMO some of it is all relevant to any analysis by the Airlines and the Travel Industry,
and also that of the Customer demand too, whether that be the Businessman model, or of the Leisure Traveller.
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 10:13
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There was a posting on LinkedIn recently from a member of the airport management stating that they hope to have new route announcements before year end
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 10:57
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Sound like they share the same PR guy as Southend. Promises much and delivers little.

Southampton will have its day, it’s just a matter of being patient.
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 12:42
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LTNman if you ever make even a slightly positive comment most of us will probably suffer severe shock !
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 12:44
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Hopefully Loganair will start Southampton to Manchester by Summer 2024 if not sooner.
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 13:41
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Noted that not a single route listed needs that runway extension.
I've pointed out in the very same post you've quoted that Loganair have publicly stated that the extension will benefit their current operations...
​​​​​https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/182...ief-executive/

The routes don't 'need' the extension to operate, but if it allows less passengers and bags to be left behind in more extreme weather conditions then Loganair, their passengers and the airport will all benefit from it.
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 15:00
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Originally Posted by vectisman
Hopefully Loganair will start Southampton to Manchester by Summer 2024 if not sooner.
Thought I read somewhere that they were looking to introduce this route from Feb 24
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 21:29
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Runway construction now finished,and groved,as per latest info fron the construction management!
Lighting and markings to follow,CAA approval to follow hopefully Very soon. Then fingers crossed for announcements on airlines from a very quite Airport management!
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 21:43
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Originally Posted by RW20
Runway construction now finished,and groved,as per latest info fron the construction management!
Lighting and markings to follow,CAA approval to follow hopefully Very soon. Then fingers crossed for announcements on airlines from a very qui myAirport management!
The latest pictures on the airport app are those of the existing runway and not the extension, just an observation!

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Old 1st Aug 2023, 22:28
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Originally Posted by RW20
Runway construction now finished,and groved,as per latest info fron the construction management!
Lighting and markings to follow,CAA approval to follow hopefully Very soon. Then fingers crossed for announcements on airlines from a very quieAirport management!
Any CAA approval will need the runway markings applied. Until this is done the airport’s surveyors cannot verify the new dimensions/declared distances. Once they have done this the aerodrome Survey Report will need updating, together with a new 1:2500 scale Aerodrome Plan.

Once these are completed the updated package needs signing off by AGS before the surveyors file it with NATS AIM, who will check data for QA compliance.

Can anyone ascertain if the lighting changes have been completed and successfully flight checked?

In line with CAP 791 CAA will want to see a totally “Completed” document to provide evidence that everything that was promised, and they accepted, has been achieved.

CAA sign off probably still a few weeks away.

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Old 1st Aug 2023, 22:44
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Originally Posted by SouthernAlliance
The latest pictures on the airport app are those of the existing runway and not the extension, just an observation!
Picture 2 of the 1 August series definitely the existing runway surface as the RWY 20 displaced threshold markings clearly visible. That said the pre-threshold paved surface of the original runway may not have been already grooved.
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 22:48
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Regarding the approach lighting to runway 20. Will there be any left seeing the runway extension now borders the railway sidings or has it been extended over the railway lines so maintaining the existing runway visual range minimum limits?
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 22:54
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Regarding the approach lighting to runway 20. Will there be any left seeing the runway extension now borders the railway sidings or has it been extended over the railway lines so maintaining the existing runway visual range minimum limits?
nothing changes accept final cross bar and centre line lighting will be sunk in to extension runway surface with threshold remaining as is

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Old 1st Aug 2023, 23:03
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Didn’t think of that option. Thanks
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Old 3rd Aug 2023, 00:07
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BACF has added a short winter program to Bergerac x 1 weekly (Sat) in Dec/Jan utilising the Chambery airframe. Salzburg service seems to only be operating 10/02-17/02

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Old 4th Aug 2023, 11:53
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You would think loads must be very low if Eastern are now offering kids go free with a paying adult on ORY. Also no dates on sale after 28/10 so assume route is being canned

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Old 4th Aug 2023, 14:37
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
You would think loads must be very low if Eastern are now offering kids go free with a paying adult on ORY. Also no dates on sale after 28/10 so assume route is being canned
​​​​Doomed to failure with Eastern performance.
Cant see this route operating in the new future ,no airline to take it on!
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Old 7th Aug 2023, 11:17
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After a near on 6 hour delay last week, Eastern yet again delayed this morning by over 7 hours, desperate times!

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Old 7th Aug 2023, 12:04
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The aircraft left SOU this morning to do a charter between Edinburgh and Dublin. It'll go to Orly when it gets back from that merry jaunt. Tells you all you need to know about their priorities of scheduled v charter.
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