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The talk of easy jet running to all the quoted destinations from a base at SOU is pie in sky,simply there is not enough stands to accommodate the aircraft needed,and more importantly the demand is not there,given a A320 passengers capacity.There might be a limited number of sun routes introduced in 2024 on a a W pattern,by one of the big carriers ,but primarily the extension will allow existing airlines like Loganair to operate fully on challenging weather days.
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Has someone misread BOD (Bordeaux) for BUD (Budapest)?
Bordeaux is far more plausible given it is a base and the French regional network from SOU has in the past been strong
Bordeaux is far more plausible given it is a base and the French regional network from SOU has in the past been strong
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The talk of easy jet running to all the quoted destinations from a base at SOU is pie in sky,simply there is not enough stands to accommodate the aircraft needed,and more importantly the demand is not there,given a A320 passengers capacity.There might be a limited number of sun routes introduced in 2024 on a a W pattern,by one of the big carriers ,but primarily the extension will allow existing airlines like Loganair to operate fully on challenging weather days.
Everybody is just guessing at the moment.
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Anyone else starting to believe that the individual named after a runway of an airport it hates with a passion is actually an alter ego of another poster on here? Would explain the lack of logic on display if it’s merely a troll account looking to get bites.
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This speculation of routes is exactly that... speculation. The runway extension will give a flight ops performance benefit to incumbent carriers and may open up new opportunities to some larger airframes on a likely seasonal, inbound basis. Why would EZY specifically look to introduce a base at SOU with such strong network positions in LGW and BRS? Given they closed 3 UK bases during Covid with no sign of re-opening I'd consider an EZY base at SOU highly unlikely. They surely have bigger fish to fry.
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From what I’m led to believe, the prospect of an EasyJet base is so low as to be non-existent. Opportunities for away-based flying into SOU from bases in Spain and France are rather higher. It’s fanciful to be setting out notions as to what they would do with two or three based 319s or 320s.
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I'm sure we will see some additional Sun flights on a low frequency basis in 2024,but inbounds and not based.
At least the airport future is more secure with the extension.
At least the airport future is more secure with the extension.
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I’m fairly certain there will be a summer seasonal programme of away based flights, most likely from EZY, to the likes of PMI, FAO and AGP with 3/4/5 weekly frequency that mirrors SEN. Beyond that I am not sure although wouldn’t rule out a few winter European city destinations and summer french regionals of NCE and BOD etc. Demand is certainly there and it will be interesting to see how the airport progresses over the next few months!
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The issues that you have raised have been discussed on this thread on many occasions.
RWY 20 has a CAT 1 ILS, unlikely to ever change. RWY 02 has IAPs, including a RNP IAP, also never likely to change.
RWY 20 approach lighting configuration will not change, apart from current elevated light fittings will be inset into the new paved surface.
RWY 20 has a CAT 1 ILS, unlikely to ever change. RWY 02 has IAPs, including a RNP IAP, also never likely to change.
RWY 20 approach lighting configuration will not change, apart from current elevated light fittings will be inset into the new paved surface.
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It seems that either no one knows or it is not good so shouldn’t be discussed. I can’t see it being above Cat 1, but Cat 1 is not good in this day and age. Looking at Google satellite view it looks like only runway 20 has an ILS while runway 02 has to make do with visual approaches. Both sets of approach lights seem to be very limited and once the runway is extended will there even be any approach lights for runway 20 as the railway sidings will get in the way?
Firstly the maximum length of a starter strip is 150 metres.
What is being constructed is an integral part of the runway. While only used on RWY 20 to extend the TORA/ASDA/TODA, according to the proposed extended declared distance shown in the Planning Application, it is also to be partially used to extend the RWY 02 LDA/TORA/ASDA/TODA, something that you cannot do if classified as a starter strip.
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Not technically correct Graham.
Firstly the maximum length of a starter strip is 150 metres.
What is being constructed is an integral part of the runway. While only used on RWY 20 to extend the TORA/ASDA/TODA, according to the proposed extended declared distance shown in the Planning Application, it is also to be partially used to extend the RWY 02 LDA/TORA/ASDA/TODA, something that you cannot do if classified as a starter strip.
Firstly the maximum length of a starter strip is 150 metres.
What is being constructed is an integral part of the runway. While only used on RWY 20 to extend the TORA/ASDA/TODA, according to the proposed extended declared distance shown in the Planning Application, it is also to be partially used to extend the RWY 02 LDA/TORA/ASDA/TODA, something that you cannot do if classified as a starter strip.
I definitely wouldn’t rule out out some out of base EZY’s from the seasonal bases on and around the Iberian peninsula. I’m not envisaging a base mind.
SOU RWY 02 (M) (SEN RWY 05)
TORA 1745 (1739)
TODA 1805 (1799)
ASDA 1745 (1739)
LDA 1673 (1604)
SOU RWY 20 (M) (SEN RWY 23)
TORA 1814 (1739)
TODA 1874 (1799)
ASDA 1814 (1799)
LDA 1605 (1604)