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Before the Pandamic and current financial crisis Southampton would have boomed with the extentsion,but it is a different ball game now.
Its going to be an interesting next couple of years,SOU needs to increase revenue by extra pax etc to break even,lets hope it achieves this.
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To give you an idea the first week in April sees 74 flights per week over 6 destinations with a maximum of 13 flights (Friday) and minimum 9 (Saturday) with one a two variations until the last week in June when their are 10 routes but then a dip in peak season to 65 flights per week as Amsterdam drops from 14 per week to 4 but Nantes starts making 11 routes in total but all that changes in September with 78 flights per week and back to 10 routes (15 flights on a Monday).
Obviously Southampton would never get 5 Belfast a day (not even sure if BHX will as things change regularly) but the destinations are Amsterdam, Belfast Int, Edinburgh, Faro, Geneva, Glasgow, Lisbon, Milan MXP, Nantes & Palma. Malaga remains in the APP but not in the main website but gives you idea what can be achieved without a base.
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I haven't got a passenger figure for easyjet at BHX as some of the routes are shared and to calculate the seats would take a while as it is a very fluid schedule depending the time of year with some seasonal routes starting in June/July and some routes reducing in peak summer such as Amsterdam.
To give you an idea the first week in April sees 74 flights per week over 6 destinations with a maximum of 13 flights (Friday) and minimum 9 (Saturday) with one a two variations until the last week in June when their are 10 routes but then a dip in peak season to 65 flights per week as Amsterdam drops from 14 per week to 4 but Nantes starts making 11 routes in total but all that changes in September with 78 flights per week and back to 10 routes (15 flights on a Monday).
Obviously Southampton would never get 5 Belfast a day (not even sure if BHX will as things change regularly) but the destinations are Amsterdam, Belfast Int, Edinburgh, Faro, Geneva, Glasgow, Lisbon, Milan MXP, Nantes & Palma. Malaga remains in the APP but not in the main website but gives you idea what can be achieved without a base.
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To give you an idea the first week in April sees 74 flights per week over 6 destinations with a maximum of 13 flights (Friday) and minimum 9 (Saturday) with one a two variations until the last week in June when their are 10 routes but then a dip in peak season to 65 flights per week as Amsterdam drops from 14 per week to 4 but Nantes starts making 11 routes in total but all that changes in September with 78 flights per week and back to 10 routes (15 flights on a Monday).
Obviously Southampton would never get 5 Belfast a day (not even sure if BHX will as things change regularly) but the destinations are Amsterdam, Belfast Int, Edinburgh, Faro, Geneva, Glasgow, Lisbon, Milan MXP, Nantes & Palma. Malaga remains in the APP but not in the main website but gives you idea what can be achieved without a base.
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Flybe announced summer 2023 yesterday, but SOU didn't get a mention 
Only 2023 route seems to be BHD Belfast City just once daily at lunchtimes - (Not operating until 22 February 2023)
Toulon and Avignon flown last summer are not listed as flying (yet >? Fly Maybe lol)
Only 2023 route seems to be BHD Belfast City just once daily at lunchtimes - (Not operating until 22 February 2023)
Toulon and Avignon flown last summer are not listed as flying (yet >? Fly Maybe lol)
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Not a big loss to the airport and instead dodged a bullet!
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Where such business still exists, this is now ell catered for by other operators. Having this distributed amongst Aer Lingus Regional, Loganair, Blues Islands, Aurigney, Eastern and KLM is a much healthier situation for SOU than the 'all the eggs in one basket' situation with the original flybe of a few years. I'm sure flybe will keep the situation under review, but at a small airport like Southampton there is only a certain amount of business to be had and this is being well-served (albeit with high fares) at the moment. I think when the economy improves the present operators, and maybe flybe too, will introduce a few new routes and increased frequencies to existing destinations. I think the runway extension will bring results too, probably not with a based operator to start with, but I would be very surprised if we don't see I nice small portfolio of leisure/city break routes developing over the next few years, using aircraft from other bases. I still think the longer-term for SOU is bright!
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Their obsession with BHD is very very odd considering Emerald with the backing of Aer Lingus are already established. The domestic routes at SOU should have been one of their main focuses with the awful Eastern and uneconomical jets being flown by Logan. Flybe are still missed by a lot of people locally but I echo what another poster has said that them returning would be counter productive for SOU. Maybe SOU have been giving them the hard shoulder. Let’s all wait and see when the runway is done. Anyone know the progress with the works?
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sounds promising. Any idea if they are going to put in the northern taxi link at the same time? Would make sense surely whilst the equipment is there.
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Supplements are published on a 28 day (AIRAC) cycle. The current batch of Supplements are effective today (12 January), with no mention of runway works. Next batch of Supplements effective 23 Feb and should on the AIS website
https://nats-uk.ead-it.com/cms-nats/...p-supplements/
about a week before. If there is to be a 1 April start on serious construction work either 23 Feb or 23 March should contain a relevant Supplement. That said, I doubt that AGS will miss the PR opportunity to hail the pending start of work. As mentioned in a previous post of mine, would be a nice touch, to show that there are no continued bad feelings, for the Bournemouth Airport Director to be invited to symbolically break the first ground!
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flyBe were never afraid to throw good money after bad in Pyrrhic battles. They shot themselves in the foot with poor timings, lower frequency than Emerald and much worse reliability.
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Interesting! All shaping up well for the move to bigger aircraft. Hopefully the taxiway will appear as I feel it would be a big oversight if not. Backtracking already adds a few minutes to departures so with the longer runway it’s going to be even more of a hindrance.
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I imagine their research/market intelligence/etc suggested that BHD/Belfast has more potential than many other airports. There is less competition from road/rail from Belfast and for day trips/overnight stays a road/rail/sail combination is thoroughly impractical. From that point of view it makes sense. I don't think flyBe banked on Emerald getting their launch together a year early, getting a UK AOC and building a reliable operation as quickly as they did. The continued operation of many of the Stobart Routes by EI mainline and BA CityFlyer probably helped Emerald and closed off opportunity for flyBe 2 as well. Now, Im not sure how much market research they really did. The route network is visibly incoherent and operationally fragile. Why fight at AMS with easyJet, KLM and BA?
flyBe were never afraid to throw good money after bad in Pyrrhic battles. They shot themselves in the foot with poor timings, lower frequency than Emerald and much worse reliability.
flyBe were never afraid to throw good money after bad in Pyrrhic battles. They shot themselves in the foot with poor timings, lower frequency than Emerald and much worse reliability.
Interesting! All shaping up well for the move to bigger aircraft. Hopefully the taxiway will appear as I feel it would be a big oversight if not. Backtracking already adds a few minutes to departures so with the longer runway it’s going to be even more of a hindrance.
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Agree totally, as mentioned in an earlier post of mine, backtracking from TWY B could be a PIA. With another 164 metres added if SOU gets back to previous traffic levels runway capacity will significantly drop either by a need for increased gaps between successive arrivals to accommodate backtracks, or the log jam at Hold B1 preventing pushbacks from multiple adjacent Stands. Are we going to see a repeat of the previous missed opportunity (when runway was resurfaced) to add the TWY A missing link at the northern end?
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