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Old 8th Dec 2022, 07:27
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I was under the impression that they had not yet released the summer schedules. It could just be the case that they have removed the destinations from their website until the announcement. Having looked at slots there seemed to be several daily Paris flights listed so one assumes that it is not to be the only new route.
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Old 8th Dec 2022, 07:32
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It was reported that Flybe dropped them. As for Paris Flybe got slots at SOU but not in Paris. The French short haul ban has ended up only stopping three routes.
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Old 9th Dec 2022, 23:19
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Indeed the French domestic ban was originally going to be six routes but the French parliament agreed on three for the present time.

​​​​​Paris ORY to Bordeaux, Lyon and Rennes.

Indeed Flybe applied to ACL for flights between Southampton and Paris ORY but were unable to secure slots at the latter.

I'm sure that Air France would have no issues with slots regarding a Paris CDG service.

As I mentioned in my previous post, I would much prefer to see Air France resuming flights between Southampton to Paris CDG than Flybe possibly flying between Southampton and Paris ORY.

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Old 10th Dec 2022, 09:52
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I was looking more at the frequencies listed. Please do correct me if wrong however my amateur calculation when the report came out suggested around 4-8 daily flights (I cannot now recall the exact number). Would that not suggest that the slots at Southampton were/are also to be put to use on other routes, such as the Avignon service?
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 07:55
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Asked whether plans to extend the runway at Southampton Airport could tempt Ryanair to direct some of its flights there, Mr Wilson said: “When you’ve got an established business and an established partnership and an established passenger base, you don’t move that – we tend not to do that unless the relationship changes in terms of cost. We just did an announcement in Bristol, an extra aircraft here in Bournemouth and we’ve announced a number of routes into Newquay. There’s plenty of room for expansion, particularly if you’ve got great-value low fares, so Southampton isn’t top of our list of what we might or might not do. We’ve got 234 airports. We’ve enough on our plate for the time being.”
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/ne...emouth-growth/
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 08:52
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The problem with SOU is that it has poor landing aids compared to Bournemouth and is prone to fog ,resulting to diversions,something the likes of ryanair,and I suspect Easy will not accept.The last day or so highlights this with diversions away fro SOU.
Bournemouth seems to be rolling along very nicely,its management team have done a great job.SOU team need to get the expansion work done now,but there is little sign of that at the moment.
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 10:08
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RW20 - extension works start early April and are scheduled to complete mid August. Now letís put this continual question from you to bed shall we!
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 14:03
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I would be very interested to know where you you.get your facts from!Ive noted your post 4/8 where you quote :

The runway extension will be complete by April 2023 so let’s wait and see if any additional growth materialises thereafter!

​​​​​Its going to.be a long.continued question!!
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 15:25
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Originally Posted by RW20
I would be very interested to know where you you.get your facts from!Ive noted your post 4/8 where you quote :

The runway extension will be complete by April 2023 so letís wait and see if any additional growth materialises thereafter!

​​​​​Its going to.be a long.continued question!!
First phase of construction has already started!
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With all due respect Ryanair will never come to SOU with its 737's - I don't know why this seems to come up time and time again - nor will Jet 2 with 737's

Whenever Ryanair expands at BOH there are howls for RYR to come to SOU -
RYR's CEO Mr MOL said himself the runway is no good for his planes.....Extension or no extension.
MOL announced this in aTV debate about 18 months/2 years ago when talking to the Airport's MD

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Old 12th Dec 2022, 11:24
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The nonsense spoken on here never ceases to amaze me. Ever heard of the word context? The comments from FR about not having plans to come to SOU were from someone stood at BOH on a day celebrating new routes there. Do you honestly expect him to come out and say that they have plans to move to BOHís rival whilst stood at BOH? Think before you speak.
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 11:27
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There is no need to be so rude #1131
Rivet Joint - If My post was to much to the point then apologies for the bluntness -but no blunter than your rant

Seasons Greetings to you all.
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 11:36
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Originally Posted by rog747
There is no need to be so rude #1131
Rivet Joint - If My post was to much to the point then apologies for the bluntness -but no blunter than your rant

Seasons Greetings to you all.
Well I for one thought your posting was spot on! Some "fans" of some airports on these threads really do appear to lose sight of reality. Airports are, for better or for worse, businesses, not football teams.
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You can forget about RYR as the likelihood of them coming to SOU is very remote when they have a large and established base down the road. Also their 738 arenít really the right fit for the airport. Instead the best hope and one which is most likely to happen is for EZY to run further routes with a smattering of TUI etc
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
You can forget about RYR as the likelihood of them coming to SOU is very remote when they have a large and established base down the road. Also their 738 aren’t really the right fit for the airport. Instead the best hope and one which is most likely to happen is for EZY to run further routes with a smattering of TUI etc
Indeed -
We can also hope that the BACF summer program does not get too decimated either - TUI chartered BACF for a SAT Palma series last summer and also took seats on the 'scheds' too.
They I gather, have planned for Volotea to come back and op for them next summer but that could all change as we have seen the past few years.
TUI have canned both IBZ and MAH in the past that sold well - not sure what they have for 2023 and 2024 planned in full.
They are selling JER holidays flying from SOU ! (That's an old destination to now come back being sold as a package deal)

What with the 'economic' situation we are now all facing one does wonder if Summer Holidays Abroad will still be at the forefront with most customers - Methinks they will.
As for EZY - for some years now their only sustained route and any 'expansion' here in our area (both SOU and BOH) is increasing their winter GVA Ski flights
(People who Ski have money - ask ALL of my NHS Consultants LOL)

The Easyjet BOH Domestic flights only lasted 5 minutes - one short summer season, never to return
As for EZY coming to SOU in the next year or so ? - No is IMHO.
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Old 12th Dec 2022, 13:59
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Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
The nonsense spoken on here never ceases to amaze me. Ever heard of the word context? The comments from FR about not having plans to come to SOU were from someone stood at BOH on a day celebrating new routes there. Do you honestly expect him to come out and say that they have plans to move to BOHís rival whilst stood at BOH? Think before you speak.
The only nonsense on here continues to come from you ,with your crass comments.
​​​​​​Its time you came into the real world and realise that BOH will attract the LCCs ,because of its local aged populations,Excellent landing aids,and most important Runway length.
Sou can and will survive on domestic routes,and limited european destinations ,and thats it!
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The only nonsense on here continues to come from you ,with your crass comments.
​​​​​​Its time you came into the real world and realise that BOH will attract the LCCs ,because of its local aged populations,Excellent landing aids,and most important Runway length.
Sou can and will survive on domestic routes,and limited european destinations ,and thats it!
Limited euro destinations maybe but incorrect, in my opinion, to suggest SOU cannot attract a LCC that shall operate a successful operation to select med/city locations
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
Limited euro destinations maybe but incorrect, in my opinion, to suggest SOU cannot attract a LCC that shall operate a successful operation to select med/city locations

I do lament too SKOJB,
that SOU is ''late to the Opera'' in attracting larger LCC aircraft and the type of Routes you mention, which I point out, that until recently Southend successfully enjoyed, and had a boom time, (until Ryanair began the push against Easyjet, and then Covid-19 arrived, which sadly saw SEN become the Marie-Celeste of airports, and remains so)

SEN was one example of just the scenario you describe and ''desire'', whereby now carriers perhaps mooting to expand by flying into other airports like SOU will not want to get burnt fingers again.

The BACF operations (summer only and ski flights - all at weekends) has not really been the complete success we hoped for - but not too bad though considering a start up in the middle of Covid-19 during part-recovery stop-start travel rules.

This is only a chat Forum, and debate is always interesting, but often provides an insight into the actual real world.

Best as always.
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Old 13th Dec 2022, 23:00
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Runway Extension

Originally Posted by RW20
I would be very interested to know where you you.get your facts from!Ive noted your post 4/8 where you quote :

The runway extension will be complete by April 2023 so letís wait and see if any additional growth materialises thereafter!

​​​​​Its going to.be a long.continued question!!

Work has started to re-route a Southern Water sewage pipe to allow the start of concrete laying for the extension in April 2023. Finish date will be a few months later.
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Old 14th Dec 2022, 07:56
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Originally Posted by gkmeech
Work has started to re-route a Southern Water sewage pipe to allow the start of concrete laying for the extension in April 2023. Finish date will be a few months later.
Thanks gkmeech. Runway completion is mid August
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