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Easyjet operate 6 routes out of 20 destinations that are currently served from SOU.
Easyjet will soon be the only airline operating from GLA to SOU.
Easyjet for summer 2024 only compete on Faro and Palma from SOU and to a certain extent with BFS.
Easyjet are one of 9 airlines currently serving SOU.
Easyjet has been successfully operating since it was founded in 1995.
There is the demand from SOU to GLA as well as EDI.
In what way are you describing "When the orange bubble bursts"?
Are you describing the collapse of easyjet itself or if the airline ceased operations at SOU.
Either way you're statement is ridiculous.
If by any chance easyjet abandons SOU 'which they won't btw' then Loganair in my opinion would instantly reinstate GLA to SOU.
SOU needs more airlines and routes but at this present time, easyjet are not a huge player at the airport.
The 'bubble burst' at SOU with the collapse of Flybe 'Mark 1'. But that's a completely different scenario.
Easyjet will soon be the only airline operating from GLA to SOU.
Easyjet for summer 2024 only compete on Faro and Palma from SOU and to a certain extent with BFS.
Easyjet are one of 9 airlines currently serving SOU.
Easyjet has been successfully operating since it was founded in 1995.
There is the demand from SOU to GLA as well as EDI.
In what way are you describing "When the orange bubble bursts"?
Are you describing the collapse of easyjet itself or if the airline ceased operations at SOU.
Either way you're statement is ridiculous.
If by any chance easyjet abandons SOU 'which they won't btw' then Loganair in my opinion would instantly reinstate GLA to SOU.
SOU needs more airlines and routes but at this present time, easyjet are not a huge player at the airport.
The 'bubble burst' at SOU with the collapse of Flybe 'Mark 1'. But that's a completely different scenario.
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Easyjet operate 6 routes out of 20 destinations that are currently served from SOU.
Easyjet will soon be the only airline operating from GLA to SOU.
Easyjet for summer 2024 only compete on Faro and Palma from SOU and to a certain extent with BFS.
Easyjet are one of 9 airlines currently serving SOU.
Easyjet has been successfully operating since it was founded in 1995.
There is the demand from SOU to GLA as well as EDI.
In what way are you describing "When the orange bubble bursts"?
Are you describing the collapse of easyjet itself or if the airline ceased operations at SOU.
Either way you're statement is ridiculous.
If by any chance easyjet abandons SOU 'which they won't btw' then Loganair in my opinion would instantly reinstate GLA to SOU.
SOU needs more airlines and routes but at this present time, easyjet are not a huge player at the airport.
The 'bubble burst' at SOU with the collapse of Flybe 'Mark 1'. But that's a completely different scenario.
Easyjet will soon be the only airline operating from GLA to SOU.
Easyjet for summer 2024 only compete on Faro and Palma from SOU and to a certain extent with BFS.
Easyjet are one of 9 airlines currently serving SOU.
Easyjet has been successfully operating since it was founded in 1995.
There is the demand from SOU to GLA as well as EDI.
In what way are you describing "When the orange bubble bursts"?
Are you describing the collapse of easyjet itself or if the airline ceased operations at SOU.
Either way you're statement is ridiculous.
If by any chance easyjet abandons SOU 'which they won't btw' then Loganair in my opinion would instantly reinstate GLA to SOU.
SOU needs more airlines and routes but at this present time, easyjet are not a huge player at the airport.
The 'bubble burst' at SOU with the collapse of Flybe 'Mark 1'. But that's a completely different scenario.
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Take a leaf out of Bristol’s management book perhaps where they seem to manage and grow the network without squabbles of the Glasgow-Southampton nature and still keep easyJet happy?
Travel Weekly also reporting cuts on EDI from four to three a day and NCL from 15 to 13 a week.
Travel Weekly also reporting cuts on EDI from four to three a day and NCL from 15 to 13 a week.
The point about the bubble bursting is that EZY currently have little invested in SOU, and can move away as quickly as they arrived - can they make more money elsewhere than they can at SOU? That is what LM have decided. If you read their statement, it is all about resilience in their network. Suggesting they would leap back if EZY pulled off GLA is optimistic. What with? Also, what are the odds of a LM MAN service now?
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About the same as they were before. Neither airport is a base for them so they either have to invest in a new base or operate a range of W flights adding operational risk to an already stretched schedule. The added complication is that MAN airport don't want a domestic carrier based at their airport as they have higher aspirations than that (according to them).
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Obvious sly dig aside (convenient geographical hint in your name) MAN literally has based domestic carriers !
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Unfortunately it's the free market economy, LM will eventually retreat from SOU should the orange expansion prove successful, SI will be looking behind their shoulders given the volume of flights they provide at SOU.
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LM were becoming a nightmare on the route in the last year, even before EZY turned up. Used the GLA route often and out of the last 6 return flights only one was less than 2 hours late, one was over 3. All due to tech E145. It was becoming a joke. It wasnt reliable. On one occasion the LM flight landed at SOU 30 mins before the EZY, yet the EZY was away back to GLA long before the LM as the E145 required an air start.
The E145 was the wrong aircraft for the route, they should have used their ATR72,. More seats and could have competed better with EZY on price. I think the pulling of the route is more to do with whats going on with LM themselves rather then the route itself. Pilots are jumping ship at an alarming rate.
The E145 was the wrong aircraft for the route, they should have used their ATR72,. More seats and could have competed better with EZY on price. I think the pulling of the route is more to do with whats going on with LM themselves rather then the route itself. Pilots are jumping ship at an alarming rate.
LM were becoming a nightmare on the route in the last year, even before EZY turned up. Used the GLA route often and out of the last 6 return flights only one was less than 2 hours late, one was over 3. All due to tech E145. It was becoming a joke. It wasnt reliable. On one occasion the LM flight landed at SOU 30 mins before the EZY, yet the EZY was away back to GLA long before the LM as the E145 required an air start.
The E145 was the wrong aircraft for the route, they should have used their ATR72,. More seats and could have competed better with EZY on price. I think the pulling of the route is more to do with whats going on with LM themselves rather then the route itself. Pilots are jumping ship at an alarming rate.
The E145 was the wrong aircraft for the route, they should have used their ATR72,. More seats and could have competed better with EZY on price. I think the pulling of the route is more to do with whats going on with LM themselves rather then the route itself. Pilots are jumping ship at an alarming rate.
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Easyjet operate 6 routes out of 20 destinations that are currently served from SOU.
Easyjet will soon be the only airline operating from GLA to SOU.
Easyjet for summer 2024 only compete on Faro and Palma from SOU and to a certain extent with BFS.
Easyjet are one of 9 airlines currently serving SOU.
Easyjet has been successfully operating since it was founded in 1995.
There is the demand from SOU to GLA as well as EDI.
In what way are you describing "When the orange bubble bursts"?
Are you describing the collapse of easyjet itself or if the airline ceased operations at SOU.
Either way you're statement is ridiculous.
If by any chance easyjet abandons SOU 'which they won't btw' then Loganair in my opinion would instantly reinstate GLA to SOU.
SOU needs more airlines and routes but at this present time, easyjet are not a huge player at the airport.
The 'bubble burst' at SOU with the collapse of Flybe 'Mark 1'. But that's a completely different scenario.
Easyjet will soon be the only airline operating from GLA to SOU.
Easyjet for summer 2024 only compete on Faro and Palma from SOU and to a certain extent with BFS.
Easyjet are one of 9 airlines currently serving SOU.
Easyjet has been successfully operating since it was founded in 1995.
There is the demand from SOU to GLA as well as EDI.
In what way are you describing "When the orange bubble bursts"?
Are you describing the collapse of easyjet itself or if the airline ceased operations at SOU.
Either way you're statement is ridiculous.
If by any chance easyjet abandons SOU 'which they won't btw' then Loganair in my opinion would instantly reinstate GLA to SOU.
SOU needs more airlines and routes but at this present time, easyjet are not a huge player at the airport.
The 'bubble burst' at SOU with the collapse of Flybe 'Mark 1'. But that's a completely different scenario.
Nothing ridiculous dear. If SOU goes orange and current airlines jump ship, problems lie ahead if yields don't stack for U2. They will go where the money is. Yes U2 could find a niche and work wonders, but all the armchair CEOs on here have to remember EI, LM and KL could all easily go for good. Taking T3 out of the equation as they are just awful. A daily JER fro U2 could easily wipe out SI. Be careful what you wish for.
Nothing ridiculous dear. If SOU goes orange and current airlines jump ship, problems lie ahead if yields don't stack for U2. They will go where the money is. Yes U2 could find a niche and work wonders, but all the armchair CEOs on here have to remember EI, LM and KL could all easily go for good. Taking T3 out of the equation as they are just awful. A daily JER fro U2 could easily wipe out SI. Be careful what you wish for.
Easyjet expansion is obviously very welcome at SOU but I don't want it to be detrimental to existing operators. Loganair pulling GLA-SOU is the first obvious sign of this.
I personally don't fly with easyjet so it doesn't affect me one way or another. All I want to see is my local airport prosper. The airport serving the region to destinations that include both sun and city breaks.
Southampton Airport is totally underutilised and in my opinion totally underappreciated. It has so much potential that is not taken advantage of.
"if SOU could attract further airlines and routes without having to rely on easyjet."
Beggars can't be choosers - and the only airlines likely to expand are LCO's - if it wasn't Easy who would you like to see? The mainline airlines aren't interested in serving small airports
Beggars can't be choosers - and the only airlines likely to expand are LCO's - if it wasn't Easy who would you like to see? The mainline airlines aren't interested in serving small airports
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"if SOU could attract further airlines and routes without having to rely on easyjet."
Beggars can't be choosers - and the only airlines likely to expand are LCO's - if it wasn't Easy who would you like to see? The mainline airlines aren't interested in serving small airports
Beggars can't be choosers - and the only airlines likely to expand are LCO's - if it wasn't Easy who would you like to see? The mainline airlines aren't interested in serving small airports
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The usual suspects having a field day I see. I have repeatedly posted stats that prove the Belfast city route hasn’t been affected by Easy’s new route to the other Belfast airport. In fact the city route grew. Logan are clearly going through a difficult patch with losing pilots and availability of ATR parts, new planes. Also the sale of the business hanging over their heads. The CEO that left recently could obviously see what was on the horizon. None of this has anything to do with SOU or Easy. The fact they still operate 145s when no other big operator in Europe does was always a red flag.
Most importantly, let’s approach this factually. The loss of Logan on the Glasgow route means only a loss of 147 passengers. Hardly the end of the world. I still feel like there is a place for Logan operating one super early and one late night flight to cater for people after a full day either end. But I also can see Easy doing two daily flights. Perhaps a based aircraft could fly down from Glasgow in the morning do a few routes from SOU and then fly back up to Glasgow in the evening.
Most importantly, let’s approach this factually. The loss of Logan on the Glasgow route means only a loss of 147 passengers. Hardly the end of the world. I still feel like there is a place for Logan operating one super early and one late night flight to cater for people after a full day either end. But I also can see Easy doing two daily flights. Perhaps a based aircraft could fly down from Glasgow in the morning do a few routes from SOU and then fly back up to Glasgow in the evening.
None of this has anything to do with SOU or Easy.
Perhaps a based aircraft could fly down from Glasgow in the morning do a few routes from SOU and then fly back up to Glasgow in the evening.
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If you are short of pilots and need to cut back your schedule, you won't cut back on your most profitable routes. You'll take the worst performers and ditch those. The fact that GLA-SOU has been ditched says everything about the performance of the route since easyJet started on it.
And I would be concerned about this. "It's only 147 passengers" - yes, those who needed the business schedule Loganair offered but easyJet does not provide. You do not want to be losing that type of passenger from SOU and ending up with them using LHR instead. Not all passengers are equal. It's a bad day for the airport, for sure.
And I would be concerned about this. "It's only 147 passengers" - yes, those who needed the business schedule Loganair offered but easyJet does not provide. You do not want to be losing that type of passenger from SOU and ending up with them using LHR instead. Not all passengers are equal. It's a bad day for the airport, for sure.
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If you are short of pilots and need to cut back your schedule, you won't cut back on your most profitable routes. You'll take the worst performers and ditch those. The fact that GLA-SOU has been ditched says everything about the performance of the route since easyJet started on it.
And I would be concerned about this. "It's only 147 passengers" - yes, those who needed the business schedule Loganair offered but easyJet does not provide. You do not want to be losing that type of passenger from SOU and ending up with them using LHR instead. Not all passengers are equal. It's a bad day for the airport, for sure.
And I would be concerned about this. "It's only 147 passengers" - yes, those who needed the business schedule Loganair offered but easyJet does not provide. You do not want to be losing that type of passenger from SOU and ending up with them using LHR instead. Not all passengers are equal. It's a bad day for the airport, for sure.
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If you are short of pilots and need to cut back your schedule, you won't cut back on your most profitable routes. You'll take the worst performers and ditch those. The fact that GLA-SOU has been ditched says everything about the performance of the route since easyJet started on it.
And I would be concerned about this. "It's only 147 passengers" - yes, those who needed the business schedule Loganair offered but easyJet does not provide. You do not want to be losing that type of passenger from SOU and ending up with them using LHR instead. Not all passengers are equal. It's a bad day for the airport, for sure.
And I would be concerned about this. "It's only 147 passengers" - yes, those who needed the business schedule Loganair offered but easyJet does not provide. You do not want to be losing that type of passenger from SOU and ending up with them using LHR instead. Not all passengers are equal. It's a bad day for the airport, for sure.
Even with the lower passenger numbers now, Southampton will lose business traffic if the schedules are not flexible.
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Good interview shown with AGS at Routes Europe recently. Mentioned that SOU was the most exciting project of all 3 of their airports, has huge potential and are looking to increase pax numbers with much more leisure. EasyJet was discussed as expanding at the airport and general growth would ‘snowball’ over the next few years, promising!