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I agree they can drive hard commercial deals but my point was more about I don't think they're fussed about terminal expansions, security numbers etc. We've all flown with certain airlines, orange, pink and blue, where the airport is completely lacking in that department.
There is an assumption by some here that LCC’s are very laid back about things. That’s not the case.
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If Ryanair have taught us one thing it is that its about the need for remorseless attention to EVERY tiny detail that makes an LCC a cash machine
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I was coming from the perspective of simply operating to rather than being based at an airport.
SeanM1997's twitter suggesting Belfast City seeing some new easyJet holiday action. Will we also see news on new routes from Southampton?
SeanM1997's twitter suggesting Belfast City seeing some new easyJet holiday action. Will we also see news on new routes from Southampton?
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If that is so,then it's very underwhelming and disappointing for the airport,potential holiday makers and more importantly it's not going to increase the PAX numbers greatly to get near 1.2mil to break even!
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Much needed extra traffic needed for 2024!
If EZY aren't going to do MAN, who else is likely to launch a domestic service to an EZY base?
EZY have launched popular routes, I guess it is 'use it or lose it'
EZY have launched popular routes, I guess it is 'use it or lose it'
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ALC 8184 (320), PMI 13020 (320), FAO 4836 (320), BFS 49296 (319), GLA 46176 (319), GVA 29388 (320) = 150900 seats (01/01/24 - 01/09/24). Expected total airport pax ‘23 is 750k so ‘24 with these orange additions will make circa 900k and this before anything added for Sept onwards. Predictions of 1m pa in 2024 definitely achievable, not withstanding there could be some reductions from Loganair/BA etc!
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That wasn’t my point. I have an insight into what LCC’s want from an airport. They have great leverage of where they park right through to kicking up a fuss when the crew car park buses aren’t running as they should. In other words, they aren’t just happy with a shoddy operation. That operation might not be required to have the full bells and whistles but it absolutely needs to be supporting the carriers flying programme.
There is an assumption by some here that LCC’s are very laid back about things. That’s not the case.
There is an assumption by some here that LCC’s are very laid back about things. That’s not the case.
On one hand we have the usual suspects saying simply the curfew in isolation will prevent a low cost operator ever moving in and now the same people are saying such operators aren’t really fussy and are happy with just a runway and a shed. Contradiction much?
To make money at their margins everything has to be run like a well oiled machine with assets making money as much as possible. I seem to be one of the few supporters of SOU on here but I have the sense to appreciate that it currently struggles to serve 2 a320s at the same time. Many improvements are still no doubt needed be it larger security areas, terminal space for many hundreds more people to sit somewhere, more airside equipment like tugs, even the taxiway to reduce the time backtracking etc etc.
Regardless of the level of frequency if you told me last year SOU would now have EZY serving 6 routes I’d say that’s a great start. I’ve heard the domestic routes are nearly full which speaks volumes about the untapped market locally for cheap flights. A lot of these are people who are unlikely to ever pay LMs prices and frequency clearly isn’t an issue either. Exciting times but yes let’s moan moan moan.
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Exactly the point I was originally making and which had been misconstrued as usual.
On one hand we have the usual suspects saying simply the curfew in isolation will prevent a low cost operator ever moving in and now the same people are saying such operators aren’t really fussy and are happy with just a runway and a shed. Contradiction much?
On one hand we have the usual suspects saying simply the curfew in isolation will prevent a low cost operator ever moving in and now the same people are saying such operators aren’t really fussy and are happy with just a runway and a shed. Contradiction much?
My point was made in response to simply operating to an airport. A lot of smaller airports in Europe which are served more frequently than what easyJet are offering next summer are little more than a runway and a shed. If there is talk of a base, then obviously airlines are going to be more demanding. But we don't need based aircraft for a huge increase in seats offered by easyJet.
FWIW, I think there is plenty of latent capacity at Southampton currently to handle way more pax and operations than is currently being offered by easyJet. I don't think there needs to be some hugely detailed masterplan and agreement between the the airline and the operator to achieve more than what it is offering next summer.