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Old 18th Nov 2023, 00:18
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German Airways are operating an Embraer 190 on behalf of KLM for the next few months due to concurrent engine issues with their existing fleet.

German Airways Embraer 190 D-AMWO is currently planned to operate KL919/920 Amsterdam to Southampton and return on Saturday, 18 November 2023. I'm not sure if the aircraft has already been seen at Southampton, but it's due to operate on the route on a regular basis over the next few months.

Although German Airways is operating on behalf of KLM, it's still nice to see a new airline on the apron at Southampton Airport.
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Old 18th Nov 2023, 09:47
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D-ANJK has been a fairly regular visitor for KL for a couple of weeks now, and IIRC D-AMWO visited once, last week.
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Old 18th Nov 2023, 16:21
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Originally Posted by Jn14:6
D-ANJK has been a fairly regular visitor for KL for a couple of weeks now, and IIRC D-AMWO visited once, last week.
Many thanks for the further information it's appreciated 👍

I personally don't tend to keep up with aircraft movements. It's good to know that the German Airways Embraer 190 has been a recent and also a frequent visitor to Southampton Airport.
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Old 21st Nov 2023, 10:12
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So, many of you are getting your Xmas wish....EasyJet Europe now serving SOU to Faro and to Alicante yay!

With EZY Swiss going all apace to GVA for this SKI season (and also to GVA and LYS from BOH)

There will be more.....

SEN also gets the ALC too,
along with PMI FAO AGP GNB GVA CDG and AMS
(SEN is really picking up, with BH Air doing a high season summer charter to Bourgas too)
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Old 21st Nov 2023, 10:37
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Originally Posted by rog747
So, many of you are getting your Xmas wish....EasyJet Europe now serving SOU to Faro and to Alicante yay!

With EZY Swiss going all apace to GVA for this SKI season (and also to GVA and LYS from BOH)

There will be more.....

SEN also gets the ALC too,
along with PMI FAO AGP GNB GVA CDG and AMS
(SEN is really picking up, with BH Air doing a high season summer charter to Bourgas too)
Would expect to see AGP/PMI added soon with maybe further frequency on ALC/FAO
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 13:58
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No sign of any other airline starting from SOU,and Easy Jet has gone quiet!
An we expect any news as December approaches?
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 17:13
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Originally Posted by RW20
No sign of any other airline starting from SOU,and Easy Jet has gone quiet!
An we expect any news as December approaches?
No one knows the answer to your question. We've been told numerous times before by a couple of poster's that "all will become clearer in October/November" and all we've had so far is an announcement by easyjet confirming that BFS and GLA are to be year-round and a measly summer season of flights to Alicante and Faro.

I know you always ask the same questions, but to be honest, you will have to wait it out like the rest of us.

I think that our only hope is for easyjet to eventually announce AGP and PMI, but considering that December is fast approaching, I'm not holding my breath. It is a pity that easyjet announced BOH to LYS rather than SOU to LYS.

I'm also hoping that Loganair eventually announces a long-awaited service from MAN to SOU.

In the long term, I would like to see Lufthansa announce a route from either Frankfurt or Munich.

Other than that, I can't think of anything else to look forward to in the coming months at SOU 🤔
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 18:16
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
No one knows the answer to your question. We've been told numerous times before by a couple of poster's that "all will become clearer in October/November" and all we've had so far is an announcement by easyjet confirming that BFS and GLA are to be year-round and a measly summer season of flights to Alicante and Faro.

I know you always ask the same questions, but to be honest, you will have to wait it out like the rest of us.

I think that our only hope is for easyjet to eventually announce AGP and PMI, but considering that December is fast approaching, I'm not holding my breath. It is a pity that easyjet announced BOH to LYS rather than SOU to LYS.

I'm also hoping that Loganair eventually announces a long-awaited service from MAN to SOU.

In the long term, I would like to see Lufthansa announce a route from either Frankfurt or Munich.

Other than that, I can't think of anything else to look forward to in the coming months at SOU 🤔
What you mean the huge ski schedule of 4 BOH departures for LYS!
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 18:23
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
What you mean the huge ski schedule of 4 departures for LYS!
Yes, considering that easyjet is obviously interested in expanding from Southampton. Regardless of the fact that it's only 4 departures. If LYS was at SOU rather than BOH, it could well have operated for a slightly longer period for winter 2024/25. At least it would have been another destination offered by easyjet from SOU, irrespective of the fact that it's only 4 flights.
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 18:45
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
Yes, considering that easyjet is obviously interested in expanding from Southampton. Regardless of the fact that it's only 4 departures. If LYS was at SOU rather than BOH, it could well have operated for a slightly longer period for winter 2024/25. At least it would have been another destination offered by easyjet from SOU, irrespective of the fact that it's only 4 flights.
I do find it bizarre that those flights couldnít be operated from SOU when its clear EZY see their future at the airport, maybe keeping AGS on their toes!
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 18:58
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
I do find it bizarre that those flights couldnít be operated from SOU when its clear EZY see their future at the airport, maybe keeping AGS on their toes!
Exactly and that's why I made my initial comments. I'm pleased that you now agree to what I originally stated 🤗
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 19:04
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
Exactly and that's why I made my initial comments. I'm pleased that you now agree to what I originally stated 🤗
Yes. By all accounts EZY are due to release a 2nd batch of routes anytime now so would expect/hope that as you say PMI/AGP at the very least shall be added. Small steps but I can envisage a sizeable presence from orange over the next 12/18 months!
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 19:16
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As well as Lyon, Easy have more Geneva flights from Bournemouth, so maybe not that bizarre. They've been growing that market for years.
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Old 24th Nov 2023, 07:59
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I think you will see something more very soon, but donít get too excited. If thatís to be the lot from easyJet, the airport must be sorely disappointed. The more I hear, the more it looks like easyJet are only in SOU as a spoiler in an effort to deter anyone else growing there and it becoming a threat to Gatwick.
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Old 24th Nov 2023, 09:27
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
I think you will see something more very soon, but donít get too excited. If thatís to be the lot from easyJet, the airport must be sorely disappointed. The more I hear, the more it looks like easyJet are only in SOU as a spoiler in an effort to deter anyone else growing there and it becoming a threat to Gatwick.
Why disappointment, for the past 6 years easyjet has only ever operated one seasonal ski route, now with a runway extension hardly dry the airport possibly has 6 additional orange destinations for sun and domestics. Outside of based aircraft being present, what on earth more can be expected in such a short space of time?
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Old 24th Nov 2023, 09:28
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
I think you will see something more very soon, but donít get too excited. If thatís to be the lot from easyJet, the airport must be sorely disappointed. The more I hear, the more it looks like easyJet are only in SOU as a spoiler in an effort to deter anyone else growing there and it becoming a threat to Gatwick.
If you are assuming that "easyjet are only in SOU as a spoiler in an effort to deter anyone else growing there and it becoming a threat to Gatwick" then surely they would have started routes that currently don't have any existing operators.

The measly summer season of flights to Alicante and Faro aren't really a long-term threat to Gatwick nor is competing with Aer Lingus or Loganair at SOU. Regardless of what routes they announce, SOU will never be a threat to LGW. The likes of AGP, ALC, FAO, IBZ, PMI can easily exist at SOU without ever becoming a threat to LGW.

I get the impression that easyJet is just cherry-picking the routes rather than seeing SOU as a real threat to LGW. A very small airport such as SOU with under one million passengers is not really a threat to LGW with nearly 50 million passengers p/a. SOU is almost two hours away from LGW and is able to attract passengers without it being a threat to LGW, especially considering the large operation by easyjet based at that airport.

I don't necessarily think that easyJet is at SOU as a true spoiler. They are operating the routes because they feel that there is a demand not because they want to spoil any further competition.

As my previous post's show, I've never been over optimistic regarding any real expansion at SOU from easyJet. If they were that intent on growing at SOU, I think they would have announced by now more routes than they currently have. After all, they have had every opportunity to do so, but all we have so far is ALC, BFS, FAO, GLA, plus the existing GVA.

Hopefully, as you and others have mentioned, easyJet will announce further routes from SOU in the coming weeks.

People are saying "small steps" or something similar. Well, those steps are certainly small.
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Old 24th Nov 2023, 09:41
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Have noticed that Stand 11 and Stand 12 NOTAMed as closed until 21 Feb/10 Jan respectively. What is happening, perhaps the boundary fence being moved to provide longer Stands to accommodate A320s?

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Old 24th Nov 2023, 09:46
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
Why disappointment, for the past 6 years easyjet has only ever operated one seasonal ski route, now with a runway extension hardly dry the airport possibly has 6 additional orange destinations for sun and domestics. Outside of based aircraft being present, what on earth more can be expected in such a short space of time?
Of course SOU must be disappointed. The airport has recently completed a long awaited runway extension costing £17.5 million with the hope of attracting new airlines and routes.

If the airport were pinning their hopes on easyJet then surely they are disappointed with what has already been announced. I know I am and so are others on here.

Regardless of the fact that for six years easyJet have just operated a seasonal flight from GVA, one would have assumed that they would have announced more routes by now than they already have.

It's not really "a short space of time" considering that easyJet obviously knew about the runway extension in advance but made no announcements at the time.

EasyJet have so far announced ALC, BFS, FAO, GLA, thats four routes plus the existing GVA which makes it five routes. Where are you getting the six from, unless you're expecting them to shortly announce PMI. Other than ALC and GVA those other destinations currently see service from other airlines at SOU.
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How many extra seats do the new routes equate to? As far as the airport is concerned, that's what matters.
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Old 24th Nov 2023, 10:54
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
Of course SOU must be disappointed. The airport has recently completed a long awaited runway extension costing £17.5 million with the hope of attracting new airlines and routes.

If the airport were pinning their hopes on easyJet then surely they are disappointed with what has already been announced. I know I am and so are others on here.

Regardless of the fact that for six years easyJet have just operated a seasonal flight from GVA, one would have assumed that they would have announced more routes by now than they already have.

It's not really "a short space of time" considering that easyJet obviously knew about the runway extension in advance but made no announcements at the time.

EasyJet have so far announced ALC, BFS, FAO, GLA, thats four routes plus the existing GVA which makes it five routes. Where are you getting the six from, unless you're expecting them to shortly announce PMI. Other than ALC and GVA those other destinations currently see service from other airlines at SOU.
The runway extension is a long term investment and I'm sure the airport owners view it thus.

That there are only comparatively few route developments announced so far for S24 probably doesn't matter. In the longer term I feel sure more services that require the extra runway length will follow in the months and years to come.

Patience is a virtue as we were told as kids!
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