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Old 22nd Jan 2023, 15:01
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Totally hypothetical and would never happen but do you think a new airport i between Cardiff and Newport or on the old Llanwern Steel works (which has been discussed in the past as Severnside) would be more successful than where the airport currently is?

As much as the WAG will not let the airport fail I just don’t see much of a way back for CWL unfortunately.
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Old 22nd Jan 2023, 20:10
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Originally Posted by shlamps
Totally hypothetical and would never happen but do you think a new airport i between Cardiff and Newport or on the old Llanwern Steel works (which has been discussed in the past as Severnside) would be more successful than where the airport currently is?

As much as the WAG will not let the airport fail I just don’t see much of a way back for CWL unfortunately.
No. For one thing, I can't see a brand new airport anywhere until the climate nonsense is discredited.
Also, that location is even nearer Bristol, which would mean Lulsgate closing. Who would pay the compensation?
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Old 22nd Jan 2023, 20:37
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Isn't the way to fix CWL a good road link to the M4?
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Old 22nd Jan 2023, 20:42
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https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/ne...stol-airports/

That was the plan. But it, ahem, never got off the ground.
It would mean the closure of Bristol and Cardiff.
Logically it makes sense as BRS itself is outgrowing it's own land and Cardiff is struggling. One Airport serving the whole South West and Wales, right alongside the M4 and the South Wales mainline would best serve everyone. But it needed to be done 20 years ago.
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Old 22nd Jan 2023, 21:21
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Originally Posted by LGS6753
No. For one thing, I can't see a brand new airport anywhere until the climate nonsense is discredited.
Also, that location is even nearer Bristol, which would mean Lulsgate closing. Who would pay the compensation?
I feel Bristol made a big mistake not developing Filton which has excellent links to the motorways and South Wales plus better weather !
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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 08:02
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And if you look through the local newspaper archives, Burtonwood could have replaced Speke and Ringway, Usworth could have replaced Woolsington and Middleton St George, a central lowlands airport could have replaced Turnhouse and Abbotsinch, etc, etc
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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 08:02
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No doubt us taxpayers will come to the rescue again and when the cash injection brings Cardiff to profitability again some years down the line it will be quickly sold to private companies at a loss, thats how it works..socialism for big business..poor supporting the rich
Im sick of it
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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 09:07
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And if you look through the local newspaper archives, Burtonwood could have replaced Speke and Ringway, Usworth could have replaced Woolsington and Middleton St George, a central lowlands airport could have replaced Turnhouse and Abbotsinch, etc, etc
And to add to that list Honiley could have replaced Elmdon; and here's a good one, Gaydon could have replaced Heathrow, Elmdon and Baginton - though I'm not sure that the latter ever appeared in a local paper! Seriously however the problem with the UK has always, well at least certainly since the first half of the 20th century, been a failure to make forward thinking decisions and spend the necessary amounts of money to build it for tomorrow rather than for yesterday. I don't believe that since the Victorians built the railways we have had a serious infrastructure planning in UK.

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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 14:50
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everyone is against everything in the UK
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Old 23rd Jan 2023, 17:43
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
everyone is against everything in the UK
Very true. Sometimes with good reason (see HS2), but Llanwern was a nailed-on airport site for anyone with an ounce of foresight. That horse has bolted now though, sadly
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Originally Posted by LGS6753
No. For one thing, I can't see a brand new airport anywhere until the climate nonsense is discredited.
Also, that location is even nearer Bristol, which would mean Lulsgate closing. Who would pay the compensation?
Climate nonsense?!
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Old 24th Jan 2023, 08:46
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The problems with building new airports in the UK started years before the "climate nonsense"

Once a) you gave everyone a vote & b) made owning a house the be all and end all of accumulating wealth ANY change to an area has met visceral opposition - no matter what it is. Just go back over "London's Third Airport" in the '60's. No-one, but no-one wants a new airport (or anything else) built near their house.

And politicians listen as they need the votes
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Old 14th Feb 2023, 18:59
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Looks like a cold wind blowing....

The Welsh government said all future roads must pass strict criteria which means they must not increase carbon emissions, they must not increase the number of cars on the road, they must not lead to higher speeds and higher emissions, and they must not negatively impact the environment.
BBC - All major road building projects in Wales are scrapped
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Old 15th Feb 2023, 12:56
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Volotea

Volotea are doing some flights from CWL to LYS & NTE in September & October this year…..all for the Rugby World Cup held in France.

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Old 15th Feb 2023, 19:10
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Looking at flight radar 24 makes sad reading. Only 2 Amsterdam flights per day plus one, two or three other scheduled flights. it must be desperately quiet in the terminal at times when the 0600 flight goes and the next scheduled departure is 1710. Should the CAA do another airspace review and remove or reclassify much of the airspace ? Class "A" ( reserved for busy or complex areas) is probably over the top for the current traffic levels given that on some days there is absolutely no traffic from the north or west at all and only Thursday this week sees one from north and one from the west ( ish).
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Try looking at Teesside…nothing at all..flight wise..and certainly nothing maintenance wise..but the local mayor is subsiding everything!
Do you guys Not have a mayor who could waste taxpayers /government money on your airport..a Capital city?

I really wonder?
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 07:45
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"Do you guys Not have a mayor who could waste taxpayers /government money "

Unfortunately they have a partly devolved Govt - you'd think that would lead to more money for Cardiff but it actually means that Welsh politicians can all play their favourite game of damming Sin City by the Bay and squabbling amongst themselves over the pork barrel - hence the lunatic support for a service to Anglesey etc etc

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Old 16th Feb 2023, 19:55
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Sad to see the lack of demand from CWL. I have friends living in Cardiff and they wouldn't even consider CWL airport for their travel needs. They go to Bristol. They said it is easier to get to BRS. Hard to see who will invest in the place if Wizz cannot make a small base work.
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 23:59
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Originally Posted by EI-BUD
Sad to see the lack of demand from CWL. I have friends living in Cardiff and they wouldn't even consider CWL airport for their travel needs. They go to Bristol. They said it is easier to get to BRS. Hard to see who will invest in the place if Wizz cannot make a small base work.
Agree with you on the sad decline of Cardiff Airport, but I really don't know how it's easier to get from anywhere in Cardiff to Bristol Airport than it is for them to get to CWL?
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Old 17th Feb 2023, 07:24
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
everyone is against everything in the UK
Not everything but lots certainly and with very good reason, the country is being run by a bunch of grifters. Self serving Politicians and corporate leaders are fXXking the rest of us over and the streets of Britain are descending into a dog eat dog clusterfXXk.
I don't think recent high end resignations including at the world Bank have much to do with the published reasons, those people know whats coming
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