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Old 17th Nov 2023, 14:28
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I wonder if anyone would know the following, just to clarify my curiosity.

A number of years ago a flew from T5A on a long haul flight on a B767. Since then I have never seen in all my visits to LHR as a passenger or spotting, a wide body depart from T5A.

Now I know the stand arrangement at T5B/C is designed for more wide body use, but my questions are how many stands at T5A are wide body capable, and was my flight a complete rarity or is there specific uses/circumstances for wide bodies at T5A.

I was flying to NAS when I went from 5A if that makes any difference.
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Looking at the charts there look to be 3 stands able to take larger aircraft 514, 516 & 518
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Old 17th Nov 2023, 16:45
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Originally Posted by azz767
I wonder if anyone would know the following, just to clarify my curiosity.

A number of years ago a flew from T5A on a long haul flight on a B767. Since then I have never seen in all my visits to LHR as a passenger or spotting, a wide body depart from T5A.

Now I know the stand arrangement at T5B/C is designed for more wide body use, but my questions are how many stands at T5A are wide body capable, and was my flight a complete rarity or is there specific uses/circumstances for wide bodies at T5A.

I was flying to NAS when I went from 5A if that makes any difference.
Stands 514, 516 and 518 can take 3 x B744s side by side, only seen this once back in Christmas Day 2008 That said, 518 seems to be have been used more often in recent years for heavy arrivals. It's more usually 4 x A320 series though, one each on 513 515 517 and 518.
513/514 and 516/517 are on the same gate and airbridge, one's a broken line for an A320 series, the other is a fixed line for a B744/B777 series.
B767-300 stands were 505, 508, 512, 513, 516, 518 and these were commonly used.

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Old 17th Nov 2023, 17:16
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Although not ‘type’ of stands (domestic) for widebodies, but think the old domestic 763’s they were often at T5A.
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Old 17th Nov 2023, 20:05
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
Although not ‘type’ of stands (domestic) for widebodies, but think the old domestic 763’s they were often at T5A.
Thats what got me wondering because when T5 was built there was domestic and short haul eu widebodies (767’s) but my surprise was that we were on a long haul 767 and it wasn’t like it had done a euro run before as a sub so it really surprised me! Anyway as I say it’s not important I was just intrigued
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
yes LHR is almost another NY airport - but it's very expensive and no-one likes changing planes there - the layout is still totally fragmented with 4 geographically seperate terminals cp ATL, CDG, DUB, AMS

We save a fortune by NOT using LHR for long-haul
What actually is the current long term plan for LHR? Are they still planning to build T5D and T2C, rebuild T3 and then link up the rest of the piers similar to ATL?
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That will depend on how many movements they can get into two runways! Sure as heck theere is not going to be an R3, so they won't build more terminal capacity than needed.
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Old 18th Nov 2023, 14:00
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Originally Posted by PAXboy
That will depend on how many movements they can get into two runways! Sure as heck there is not going to be an R3, so they won't build more terminal capacity than needed.
The only options for accommodating more movements on the existing runways are extending the operating day and/or introducing mixed-mode operation, either of which are likely to prove no more popular with communities than a third runway.

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A bit of a controversial view but exactly what is the problem with noise at LHR.

I grew up very close to Heathrow and in the 60s and 70s noise was an issue. , VC10s and other Conway engined beasts would have woken all of west London on a night easterly departure and the ear splitting scream of JT3s on approach the same.
But life is very very different now , the airport has been there for 70 plus years so no one has suddenly found out that there is an airport near their house. I dont know what the decibel numbers say but the likes of 787s , 350s and Airbus 320s dont make anything like the noise so an extension of operating hours would seem sensible.
Of course that would upset the citizens of Richmond but as there seems to be no other alternative why not give it a try
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At his last community engagement prior to his exit in October, JHK stated by 2028 subject to planning permission from Hillingdon council *, and airspace changes, easterlies will be alternated like westerly landings.
* Hillingdon refused the last application but it was successfully appealed, (though LHR failed abide by including it with R3 costs)
The sticking point now is the sound barriers for Longford village.
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Originally Posted by azz767
I wonder if anyone would know the following, just to clarify my curiosity.

A number of years ago a flew from T5A on a long haul flight on a B767. Since then I have never seen in all my visits to LHR as a passenger or spotting, a wide body depart from T5A.

Now I know the stand arrangement at T5B/C is designed for more wide body use, but my questions are how many stands at T5A are wide body capable, and was my flight a complete rarity or is there specific uses/circumstances for wide bodies at T5A.

I was flying to NAS when I went from 5A if that makes any difference.
As I recall it at least for a while the first BA LHR-JFK of the day was a regular departure from one of the A gates, probably 518 (A18)
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LHR issues

Hi all

Is LHR enforcing movement reductions this morning ?

Im stuck on the MAN shuttle with a 2 hr delay on the ground at MAN

any inside info would be appreciated,. First the crew said weather delays then ATC sickness !!

bang goes my connections, knew I should have driven down !😡
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Old 19th Nov 2023, 08:05
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Currently has a slot delay of just below two hours due arrival restrictions at LHR.
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Hi
just looked at FR24, the holds are certainly looking busy
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A BA 787 Diverted to STN and one to LGW, assume splash & dash for fuel.

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Still alot holding in stacks and alot of BA domestic flights canx. Definitely an ATC flow issues
http://BBC News - Heathrow passenger...iness-67468108

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I read something briefly on X that there was an exercise taking place between the police and the RAF to prepare in the event of a terroist event
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National Air Traffic Services (NATS) confirmed to the BBC that "short notice staff absence and strong winds" had led to limits being put in place. It added: "We expect the situation to improve this afternoon."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67468108
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Originally Posted by MANFAN
I read something briefly on X that there was an exercise taking place between the police and the RAF to prepare in the event of a terroist event
Wasn't that Friday evening with a BA 320 and x2 Typhoons?
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