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DRUK has often documented how LHR fiddles all sorts of "consumer facing " numbers
Paxing All Over The World
Numerous companies make up numbers. Some at the lower stretches of manager to make it look good and some from the very top. Seen it done at first hand. Nothing new and anyone who believes company PR deserves to be misled.
keep going.
If it’s of any consolation to you Dave, I generally regard your posts as factual & believable. I don’t know who you are, but there is a creditability in what you say - maybe not everything, but enough to make me think that you know what you’re doing. That, & my own experience in aviation management & operations.
keep going.
keep going.
I fully support the comments of DRUK re LHR & JHK. He has assisted myself (and in turn residents) many times in disputing the publications made by LHR. We are now on the fourth noise action plan, the preceding having achieved zero.
They now admit that alternate operations on the northern runway MAY start in 2028, 15 yrs since the withdrawal of the Cranford agreement.
They now admit that alternate operations on the northern runway MAY start in 2028, 15 yrs since the withdrawal of the Cranford agreement.
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Believe so. Certainly the taxiway between terminal 2 and the pier is now in use along with the 2 new stands. They need to finally demolish terminal 1 and build on that before tackling terminal 3.
WHAT????
Do something logical at LHR.... that'll be a first............................ they probably need the money from the new shops in a rebuilt T3 to pay for the demolition
Do something logical at LHR.... that'll be a first............................ they probably need the money from the new shops in a rebuilt T3 to pay for the demolition
I'm certain that Asiana did the same thing during winter 2022/23 and went from 7 to 5 weekly flights from Seoul to London Heathrow.
The merger between Asiana and Korean Air hasn't been fully approved so it has nothing to do with having to give up slots.
Even though the EU and UK authorities have both given Asiana and Korean Air the green light for the planned merger the US Department of Justice has yet to do so. Until Asiana and Korean Air get final approval from the US DOJ the planned merger remains in a stalemate.
No flights and slots have been withdrawn from either airline. Although this was part of the agreement regarding the merger plans they would not come into affect until there is a final approval from all concerned. Once the merger does get final approval from the US DOJ it's expected that Asiana will initially operate as a subsidiary of Korean Air before it's fully implemented into the airline.
This of course doesn't mean that Asiana and Korean Air haven't colluded in cutting capacity during the winter 2023/24 season. With both Asiana and Korean Air serving the Seoul to London Heathrow route there's enough capacity between them during the winter season. The same can be said for other European routes where both airlines are operating alongside each other.
The merger between Asiana and Korean Air hasn't been fully approved so it has nothing to do with having to give up slots.
Even though the EU and UK authorities have both given Asiana and Korean Air the green light for the planned merger the US Department of Justice has yet to do so. Until Asiana and Korean Air get final approval from the US DOJ the planned merger remains in a stalemate.
No flights and slots have been withdrawn from either airline. Although this was part of the agreement regarding the merger plans they would not come into affect until there is a final approval from all concerned. Once the merger does get final approval from the US DOJ it's expected that Asiana will initially operate as a subsidiary of Korean Air before it's fully implemented into the airline.
This of course doesn't mean that Asiana and Korean Air haven't colluded in cutting capacity during the winter 2023/24 season. With both Asiana and Korean Air serving the Seoul to London Heathrow route there's enough capacity between them during the winter season. The same can be said for other European routes where both airlines are operating alongside each other.
Commencing 1st Aug, China Eastern have begun a 3rd Shanghai-London rotation, MU533/534 PVG-LHR-PVG 0645-1100 on the A332 in addition to the existing B77Ws on PVG-LHR and PVG-LGW.
Both BA and Virgin provide the British competition making a total of 5 daily flights on London-Shanghai.
Both BA and Virgin provide the British competition making a total of 5 daily flights on London-Shanghai.
Had the ' Joy ' of flying into Heathrow for the first time since Covid at the end of a 28 HR flight from Brisbane and was pleasantly surprised how simples and quick it was....However our onward travel was to and change in London and beyond and the Elizabeth Line was the most convenient.
However finding the Liz Line from T2 was a mission. The signage wanted us to use the Heathrow Express to Paddington at what would be more than twice the price we paid for the Liz Line. ...ok own it's time Vs price..but in my opinion it would be a rip off..
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Foreign residents that don't know BEWARE....
However finding the Liz Line from T2 was a mission. The signage wanted us to use the Heathrow Express to Paddington at what would be more than twice the price we paid for the Liz Line. ...ok own it's time Vs price..but in my opinion it would be a rip off..
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Foreign residents that don't know BEWARE....
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Had the ' Joy ' of flying into Heathrow for the first time since Covid at the end of a 28 HR flight from Brisbane and was pleasantly surprised how simples and quick it was....However our onward travel was to and change in London and beyond and the Elizabeth Line was the most convenient.
However finding the Liz Line from T2 was a mission. The signage wanted us to use the Heathrow Express to Paddington at what would be more than twice the price we paid for the Liz Line. ...ok own it's time Vs price..but in my opinion it would be a rip off..
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Foreign residents that don't know BEWARE....
However finding the Liz Line from T2 was a mission. The signage wanted us to use the Heathrow Express to Paddington at what would be more than twice the price we paid for the Liz Line. ...ok own it's time Vs price..but in my opinion it would be a rip off..
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The Elizabeth Line fare (£12.20) is around half that of the on-the-day ticket / contactless fare of the Heathrow Express (£25). The ticket barriers within Paddington are set up to recognise this.
Yup, I worked that one out as I edited a typo on my question, thought I had deleted it and gotten away with it. Argh 🤣 No barriers on that platform at Paddington gave me a false sense of security. Money well spent though as I just made my flight at LCY....
In the last 5-10 years, it seems like the proportion of flights at LHR which are longhaul has increased... with shorthaul outside July/August being just the strongest of potential routes. Is this just my perception or is this borne out in the data ? I've been finding in the last 6 months that O&D BA shorthaul oneway at LHR is increasingly priced far, far above equivalent flights at LGW, LTN and STN
Is there a risk that LHR becomes substantially a long-haul-only airport by 2033 ? Maybe with a little bit of BA shorthaul being retained for the sake of tradition... :-)
Is there a risk that LHR becomes substantially a long-haul-only airport by 2033 ? Maybe with a little bit of BA shorthaul being retained for the sake of tradition... :-)