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Old 2nd Jul 2023, 09:27
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DRUK has often documented how LHR fiddles all sorts of "consumer facing " numbers
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Old 2nd Jul 2023, 15:15
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Numerous companies make up numbers. Some at the lower stretches of manager to make it look good and some from the very top. Seen it done at first hand. Nothing new and anyone who believes company PR deserves to be misled.
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Old 2nd Jul 2023, 22:14
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
Oh dear.

Sadly, I neglected to ask JH-K if others had also requested substantiating evidence behind some of the cr@p that Heathrow publishes, so I can't tell whether discovering that there isn't any makes me uniquely privileged.
If itís of any consolation to you Dave, I generally regard your posts as factual & believable. I donít know who you are, but there is a creditability in what you say - maybe not everything, but enough to make me think that you know what youíre doing. That, & my own experience in aviation management & operations.
keep going.
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Old 3rd Jul 2023, 08:29
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Originally Posted by kcockayne
If itís of any consolation to you Dave, I generally regard your posts as factual & believable. I donít know who you are, but there is a creditability in what you say - maybe not everything, but enough to make me think that you know what youíre doing. That, & my own experience in aviation management & operations.
keep going.
Yes - we don't always agree but I believe your numbers...........
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Old 3rd Jul 2023, 17:01
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I fully support the comments of DRUK re LHR & JHK. He has assisted myself (and in turn residents) many times in disputing the publications made by LHR. We are now on the fourth noise action plan, the preceding having achieved zero.
They now admit that alternate operations on the northern runway MAY start in 2028, 15 yrs since the withdrawal of the Cranford agreement.
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 18:48
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Are the aprons and taxiways around Terminal 2 now finally complete?
And are there any plans to refurbish or even replace Terminal 3?
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 19:42
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Originally Posted by MANFAN
Are the aprons and taxiways around Terminal 2 now finally complete?
And are there any plans to refurbish or even replace Terminal 3?
Believe so. Certainly the taxiway between terminal 2 and the pier is now in use along with the 2 new stands. They need to finally demolish terminal 1 and build on that before tackling terminal 3.
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Old 6th Jul 2023, 10:11
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WHAT????

Do something logical at LHR.... that'll be a first............................ they probably need the money from the new shops in a rebuilt T3 to pay for the demolition
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Old 27th Jul 2023, 20:54
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Surprised at the W23 cuts for Asiana to ICN.
All their Euro international services dropping frequencies. Wonder why?
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Old 27th Jul 2023, 21:28
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I guess consolidation as they are merging with Korean Air.
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Old 27th Jul 2023, 23:29
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Havenít Asiana/Korean had to hand back slots for competition purposes?
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Old 28th Jul 2023, 01:06
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I'm certain that Asiana did the same thing during winter 2022/23 and went from 7 to 5 weekly flights from Seoul to London Heathrow.

The merger between Asiana and Korean Air hasn't been fully approved so it has nothing to do with having to give up slots.

Even though the EU and UK authorities have both given Asiana and Korean Air the green light for the planned merger the US Department of Justice has yet to do so. Until Asiana and Korean Air get final approval from the US DOJ the planned merger remains in a stalemate.

No flights and slots have been withdrawn from either airline. Although this was part of the agreement regarding the merger plans they would not come into affect until there is a final approval from all concerned. Once the merger does get final approval from the US DOJ it's expected that Asiana will initially operate as a subsidiary of Korean Air before it's fully implemented into the airline.

This of course doesn't mean that Asiana and Korean Air haven't colluded in cutting capacity during the winter 2023/24 season. With both Asiana and Korean Air serving the Seoul to London Heathrow route there's enough capacity between them during the winter season. The same can be said for other European routes where both airlines are operating alongside each other.
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Old 13th Aug 2023, 02:24
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Commencing 1st Aug, China Eastern have begun a 3rd Shanghai-London rotation, MU533/534 PVG-LHR-PVG 0645-1100 on the A332 in addition to the existing B77Ws on PVG-LHR and PVG-LGW.
Both BA and Virgin provide the British competition making a total of 5 daily flights on London-Shanghai.
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Old 13th Aug 2023, 18:45
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Had the ' Joy ' of flying into Heathrow for the first time since Covid at the end of a 28 HR flight from Brisbane and was pleasantly surprised how simples and quick it was....However our onward travel was to and change in London and beyond and the Elizabeth Line was the most convenient.

However finding the Liz Line from T2 was a mission. The signage wanted us to use the Heathrow Express to Paddington at what would be more than twice the price we paid for the Liz Line. ...ok own it's time Vs price..but in my opinion it would be a rip off..
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Foreign residents that don't know BEWARE....
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Old 13th Aug 2023, 19:46
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Originally Posted by Kiltrash
Had the ' Joy ' of flying into Heathrow for the first time since Covid at the end of a 28 HR flight from Brisbane and was pleasantly surprised how simples and quick it was....However our onward travel was to and change in London and beyond and the Elizabeth Line was the most convenient.

However finding the Liz Line from T2 was a mission. The signage wanted us to use the Heathrow Express to Paddington at what would be more than twice the price we paid for the Liz Line. ...ok own it's time Vs price..but in my opinion it would be a rip off..
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Elizabeth line and Heathrow express share the same line. You have to listen/read what train is coming.
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Old 13th Aug 2023, 23:10
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I used contactless on the HEX recently, how was that anymore expensive than the Elizabeth Line?
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Old 13th Aug 2023, 23:39
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
I used contactless on the HEX recently, how was that anymore expensive than the Elizabeth Line?
The Elizabeth Line fare (£12.20) is around half that of the on-the-day ticket / contactless fare of the Heathrow Express (£25). The ticket barriers within Paddington are set up to recognise this.
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Old 14th Aug 2023, 00:53
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
The Elizabeth Line fare (£12.20) is around half that of the on-the-day ticket / contactless fare of the Heathrow Express (£25). The ticket barriers within Paddington are set up to recognise this.
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Yup, I worked that one out as I edited a typo on my question, thought I had deleted it and gotten away with it. Argh 🤣 No barriers on that platform at Paddington gave me a false sense of security. Money well spent though as I just made my flight at LCY....
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Old 16th Aug 2023, 23:57
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In the last 5-10 years, it seems like the proportion of flights at LHR which are longhaul has increased... with shorthaul outside July/August being just the strongest of potential routes. Is this just my perception or is this borne out in the data ? I've been finding in the last 6 months that O&D BA shorthaul oneway at LHR is increasingly priced far, far above equivalent flights at LGW, LTN and STN
Is there a risk that LHR becomes substantially a long-haul-only airport by 2033 ? Maybe with a little bit of BA shorthaul being retained for the sake of tradition... :-)
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Old 17th Aug 2023, 00:11
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Ergo the need for RW3 to feed more Long Haul.
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