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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 11:44
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I was on a Lufthansa flight via Munich heading further east. Thanks for the info. Suspected it was a staffing issue.

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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 13:28
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I was enjoying watching a sun set last night at home, and noticed a number of late departures on A/C heading for US and Canada flying over head, which were running about an hour late. It was on a mixture of carriers, so not just a BA or Virgin thing. Not sure what was going on but the postís above indicate that there are still considerable issues using the place as either starting / ending point, or indeed transferring there.

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Old 4th Jan 2023, 10:01
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BA title's removed from the old BMI hangar. Heard this was going to United? Anyone confirm?
Quite possible, rumour is some BA engineers are being offered six figures sums to work for a new United operation at LHR.
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Old 4th Jan 2023, 12:45
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Originally Posted by Max Angle
Quite possible, rumour is some BA engineers are being offered six figures sums to work for a new United operation at LHR.
Salary, or 'Golden Hello' in addition ?
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Old 5th Jan 2023, 10:36
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Six figure salary for some senior positions, £105,000 is the figure doing the rounds.

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Old 14th Jan 2023, 11:19
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Air India is moving routes to Ahmedabad, Amritsar, Goa and Cochi to LGW in order to increase on the other side routes to DEL (17 weekly) & BOM (14 weekly) out of LHR.
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Old 14th Jan 2023, 19:54
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Originally Posted by Seljuk22
Air India is moving routes to Ahmedabad, Amritsar, Goa and Cochi to LGW in order to increase on the other side routes to DEL (17 weekly) & BOM (14 weekly) out of LHR.
Isnít this just a restoration of pre COVID schedules and relinquishing of the leased in slots .

I also have my doubts that Goa and Cochi in particular will remain in Surrey/ Sussex for very long

As for Ahmedabad and Amritsar the clientele arenít really in the region either !

Many most will simply route as always was via Delhi .

I might be wrong however I donít see them staying at Gatwick even mid term.
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Old 14th Jan 2023, 22:49
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This is the classic pre COVID Air India LHR schedule :

AI 161 07:30 DEL LHR T2 2019S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
AI 171 10:15 AMD LHR T2 2019S 1 3 5 7
AI 177 10:15 BLR LHR T2 2019S 2 4 6
AI 131 11:30 BOM LHR T2 2019S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
AI 111 19:00 DEL LHR T2 2019S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Basically 2 x Delhi, 1 x Mumbai plus AMS/BLR making four daily on the B787-8 which was the frequency since the Dreamliner arrived, = 28 weekly.
Currently

AI 141 06:35 BOM LHR T2 2022W 1
AI 161 06:35 DEL LHR T2 2022W 2 3 4 5 7
AI 171 06:35 AMD LHR T2 2022W 5 6
AI 133 11:05 DEL LHR T2 2022W 1 6
AI 169 11:05 ATQ LHR T2 2022W 2 4 7
AI 131 11:30 BOM LHR T2 2022W 1 2 3 4 6 7
AI 145 11:30 GOI LHR T2 2022W 2 4 5
AI 171 11:30 AMD LHR T2 2022W 1 2
AI 151 11:30 MAA LHR T2 2022W 3
AI 147 11:55 HYD LHR T2 2022W 1 3 5
AI 149 12:05 COK LHR T2 2022W 3 5 7
AI 155 12:10 DEL LHR T2 2022W 6
AI 111 18:55 DEL LHR T2 2022W 1 2 3 4 6 7
AI 129 19:00 BOM LHR T2 2022W 3 6 7
AI 131 20:00 BOM LHR T2 2022W 5
AI 129 20:05 BOM LHR T2 2022W 1 2 4
AI 171 20:10 AMD LHR T2 2022W 4

= 46 weekly. Where did Air India get all of these slots?
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 07:47
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Where did Air India get all of these slots?
6 Slot pairs came from Garuda Indonesia and 3 x adhoc slots (applied for each year), plus the newly acquired Tata slots
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Old 16th Jan 2023, 12:29
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American up to 26x daily to LHR this Summer with third daily flights to both CLT and LAX. Impressive.
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Old 16th Jan 2023, 12:41
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Originally Posted by Vokes55
American up to 26x daily to LHR this Summer with third daily flights to both CLT and LAX. Impressive.
I wonder with fellow One World member, BA, how many US fights a day they now command from LHR?
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Old 16th Jan 2023, 13:24
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Originally Posted by pabely
I wonder with fellow One World member, BA, how many US fights a day they now command from LHR?
Simple Flying published an article last September reporting that BA would soon have 42 of the 119 daily departures from LHR to the USA.

Atlanta (1 daily), Austin (1), Baltimore (1), Boston (3), Chicago (2), Dallas (1), Denver (1), Houston (2), Las Vegas (1), Los Angeles (3), Miami (2), Nashville (1), Newark (3), New Orleans (1), New York JFK (7), Philadelphia (1), Phoenix (1), Pittsburgh (1), Portland (1), San Diego (1), San Francisco (2), San Jose (1), Seattle (2), Washington Dulles (2)
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Old 16th Jan 2023, 18:08
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Looking at June 23, BA is x8 JFK so that is outdated. Hence the question.

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Old 16th Jan 2023, 20:19
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Aeroitalia have cut back on Heathrow. They will operate just 2 more flights... to Bergamo on 12 and 15 February. Aeroitalia began at LHR on 08-Dec-2022 and suspended flying (presumably because of lack of seasonal demand) from 09-Jan-2023 until 11-Feb-2023. Their LHR-Florence route lasted 2 weeks

I'm trying to think of other airlines which have had a shorter tenure at Heathrow since 2000, but which had intended to be at Heathrow for much longer. I'm excluding special cases like temporary ACMI charters to cover things like strikes or events of a very temporary nature. Anyone have ideas ?

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Old 17th Jan 2023, 00:11
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Originally Posted by Vokes55
American up to 26x daily to LHR this Summer with third daily flights to both CLT and LAX. Impressive.
May as well just build their own crew hotel with those numbers flying in each day
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 00:40
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Originally Posted by pabely
I wonder with fellow One World member, BA, how many US fights a day they now command from LHR?
Summer 2022 by way of comparison :
American flew BOS CLT DFW JFK LAX MIA ORD PHL PHX RDU 23 Daily 161 Weekly
United flew IAD EWR ORD SFO IAH DEN BOS LAX 22 Daily 154 Weekly
Virgin flew JFK MCO IAD ATL SEA AUS BOS LAX MIA SFO LAS 20 Daily 140 Weekly
Delta flew ATL BOS DTW MSP JFK SEA SLC 9-10 Daily 68 Weekly

British Airways flew EWR JFK IAD MIA SEA PHL BOS ORD IAH BWI MCO AUS LAX PIT DFW BNA SFO DEN ATL PDX MSY SAN PHX SJC LAS 262 Weekly

Weekly totals by alliance :
Oneworld BA/AA = 423
Skyteam VS/DL = 208
STAR United = 154

Roughly 112 US flights per day out of LHR from 5 major airlines.
Apologies I didn't sort alphabetically, noticed after I posted and it's late...

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Old 26th Jan 2023, 16:21
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This is a story from a friend of mine:

I was involved in a parking scam at Heathrow Airport.
Basically, you leave your car with a driver inside the terminal and they take your car, store it, and are there to meet you when you land, with your keys. Awesome.
Now, I had used these people before, but on our return from zzzzzz, we were told thereís a problem and our car was stuck in the secure parking. So we immediately thought that we were being told a load of bollocks and we contacted the police and our insurance.
This was on the 3rd of January.

We got assigned a police officer called Mike and he called us every few days saying he was still looking for our beautiful Ford Ranger. His problem was that some 75 cars had gone in this scam.
It turns out, most Meet and Greet companies donít have any storage facilities at all. They leave your car in a field or parked by the side of the road, or anywhere that wonít attract a fine. (So beware.)
Turns out that while we were away for Christmas, these bastards threw everyoneís keys in the bin and took all the money and ran. Leaving everyone thinking their cars were stolen.

This morning Mike told me that he and his team had found over 60 of the missing cars. This afternoon he found mine. I know the Metropolitan Police are understaffed, f**ked over by our government policies and mismanaged, but they still try. And our super cop Mike, is the cops cop. He will never read this, but I thank you from the bottom of my heart for finding our RAID truck. You are a bloody legend. Thank you to you and all the amazing police I met in the last few days. You guys rock.

I found them on a compare site. They were called Heathrow Meet and Greet, and they gave the car to a sub contractor called White Line (donít laugh). The police told me not to trust anyone but the official Heathrow parking or Purple Parking. Thereís a huge amount of investigation going on regarding this.
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Old 26th Jan 2023, 18:47
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Originally Posted by PAXboy
This is a story from a friend of mine:
Itís nothing new. This kind of thing has been reported on watchdog and in the media for years. In any other circumstance you wouldnít just give your car keys to a random person at a random location so why do people do it at airports?

Iíd always park my car myself or only use the reputable company that I knew had a secure facility. Even then though Iíd rather keep my keys and park myself and take the shuttle bus than give some random bloke my car -especially anything with a decent engine or curb appeal that they might be tempted to take for a joyride (which is also frequently reported).
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Old 27th Jan 2023, 02:51
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I agree, BA318, but it happens and I wanted to point this out to a new generation of travellers. I have never used a 'we'll park it for you' even the official ones.
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 09:43
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So the inevitable question... what does BA or IAG do with the Heathrow slots that Flybe were using ?
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