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I was enjoying watching a sun set last night at home, and noticed a number of late departures on A/C heading for US and Canada flying over head, which were running about an hour late. It was on a mixture of carriers, so not just a BA or Virgin thing. Not sure what was going on but the post’s above indicate that there are still considerable issues using the place as either starting / ending point, or indeed transferring there.
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BA title's removed from the old BMI hangar. Heard this was going to United? Anyone confirm?
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I also have my doubts that Goa and Cochi in particular will remain in Surrey/ Sussex for very long
As for Ahmedabad and Amritsar the clientele aren’t really in the region either !
Many most will simply route as always was via Delhi .
I might be wrong however I don’t see them staying at Gatwick even mid term.
This is the classic pre COVID Air India LHR schedule :
AI 161 07:30 DEL LHR T2 2019S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
AI 171 10:15 AMD LHR T2 2019S 1 3 5 7
AI 177 10:15 BLR LHR T2 2019S 2 4 6
AI 131 11:30 BOM LHR T2 2019S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
AI 111 19:00 DEL LHR T2 2019S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Basically 2 x Delhi, 1 x Mumbai plus AMS/BLR making four daily on the B787-8 which was the frequency since the Dreamliner arrived, = 28 weekly.
Currently
AI 141 06:35 BOM LHR T2 2022W 1
AI 161 06:35 DEL LHR T2 2022W 2 3 4 5 7
AI 171 06:35 AMD LHR T2 2022W 5 6
AI 133 11:05 DEL LHR T2 2022W 1 6
AI 169 11:05 ATQ LHR T2 2022W 2 4 7
AI 131 11:30 BOM LHR T2 2022W 1 2 3 4 6 7
AI 145 11:30 GOI LHR T2 2022W 2 4 5
AI 171 11:30 AMD LHR T2 2022W 1 2
AI 151 11:30 MAA LHR T2 2022W 3
AI 147 11:55 HYD LHR T2 2022W 1 3 5
AI 149 12:05 COK LHR T2 2022W 3 5 7
AI 155 12:10 DEL LHR T2 2022W 6
AI 111 18:55 DEL LHR T2 2022W 1 2 3 4 6 7
AI 129 19:00 BOM LHR T2 2022W 3 6 7
AI 131 20:00 BOM LHR T2 2022W 5
AI 129 20:05 BOM LHR T2 2022W 1 2 4
AI 171 20:10 AMD LHR T2 2022W 4
= 46 weekly. Where did Air India get all of these slots?
AI 161 07:30 DEL LHR T2 2019S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
AI 171 10:15 AMD LHR T2 2019S 1 3 5 7
AI 177 10:15 BLR LHR T2 2019S 2 4 6
AI 131 11:30 BOM LHR T2 2019S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
AI 111 19:00 DEL LHR T2 2019S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Basically 2 x Delhi, 1 x Mumbai plus AMS/BLR making four daily on the B787-8 which was the frequency since the Dreamliner arrived, = 28 weekly.
Currently
AI 141 06:35 BOM LHR T2 2022W 1
AI 161 06:35 DEL LHR T2 2022W 2 3 4 5 7
AI 171 06:35 AMD LHR T2 2022W 5 6
AI 133 11:05 DEL LHR T2 2022W 1 6
AI 169 11:05 ATQ LHR T2 2022W 2 4 7
AI 131 11:30 BOM LHR T2 2022W 1 2 3 4 6 7
AI 145 11:30 GOI LHR T2 2022W 2 4 5
AI 171 11:30 AMD LHR T2 2022W 1 2
AI 151 11:30 MAA LHR T2 2022W 3
AI 147 11:55 HYD LHR T2 2022W 1 3 5
AI 149 12:05 COK LHR T2 2022W 3 5 7
AI 155 12:10 DEL LHR T2 2022W 6
AI 111 18:55 DEL LHR T2 2022W 1 2 3 4 6 7
AI 129 19:00 BOM LHR T2 2022W 3 6 7
AI 131 20:00 BOM LHR T2 2022W 5
AI 129 20:05 BOM LHR T2 2022W 1 2 4
AI 171 20:10 AMD LHR T2 2022W 4
= 46 weekly. Where did Air India get all of these slots?
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Atlanta (1 daily), Austin (1), Baltimore (1), Boston (3), Chicago (2), Dallas (1), Denver (1), Houston (2), Las Vegas (1), Los Angeles (3), Miami (2), Nashville (1), Newark (3), New Orleans (1), New York JFK (7), Philadelphia (1), Phoenix (1), Pittsburgh (1), Portland (1), San Diego (1), San Francisco (2), San Jose (1), Seattle (2), Washington Dulles (2)
Aeroitalia have cut back on Heathrow. They will operate just 2 more flights... to Bergamo on 12 and 15 February. Aeroitalia began at LHR on 08-Dec-2022 and suspended flying (presumably because of lack of seasonal demand) from 09-Jan-2023 until 11-Feb-2023. Their LHR-Florence route lasted 2 weeks
I'm trying to think of other airlines which have had a shorter tenure at Heathrow since 2000, but which had intended to be at Heathrow for much longer. I'm excluding special cases like temporary ACMI charters to cover things like strikes or events of a very temporary nature. Anyone have ideas ?
I'm trying to think of other airlines which have had a shorter tenure at Heathrow since 2000, but which had intended to be at Heathrow for much longer. I'm excluding special cases like temporary ACMI charters to cover things like strikes or events of a very temporary nature. Anyone have ideas ?
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American flew BOS CLT DFW JFK LAX MIA ORD PHL PHX RDU 23 Daily 161 Weekly
United flew IAD EWR ORD SFO IAH DEN BOS LAX 22 Daily 154 Weekly
Virgin flew JFK MCO IAD ATL SEA AUS BOS LAX MIA SFO LAS 20 Daily 140 Weekly
Delta flew ATL BOS DTW MSP JFK SEA SLC 9-10 Daily 68 Weekly
British Airways flew EWR JFK IAD MIA SEA PHL BOS ORD IAH BWI MCO AUS LAX PIT DFW BNA SFO DEN ATL PDX MSY SAN PHX SJC LAS 262 Weekly
Weekly totals by alliance :
Oneworld BA/AA = 423
Skyteam VS/DL = 208
STAR United = 154
Roughly 112 US flights per day out of LHR from 5 major airlines.
Apologies I didn't sort alphabetically, noticed after I posted and it's late...
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This is a story from a friend of mine:
I was involved in a parking scam at Heathrow Airport.
Basically, you leave your car with a driver inside the terminal and they take your car, store it, and are there to meet you when you land, with your keys. Awesome.
Now, I had used these people before, but on our return from zzzzzz, we were told there’s a problem and our car was stuck in the secure parking. So we immediately thought that we were being told a load of bollocks and we contacted the police and our insurance.
This was on the 3rd of January.
We got assigned a police officer called Mike and he called us every few days saying he was still looking for our beautiful Ford Ranger. His problem was that some 75 cars had gone in this scam.
It turns out, most Meet and Greet companies don’t have any storage facilities at all. They leave your car in a field or parked by the side of the road, or anywhere that won’t attract a fine. (So beware.)
Turns out that while we were away for Christmas, these bastards threw everyone’s keys in the bin and took all the money and ran. Leaving everyone thinking their cars were stolen.
This morning Mike told me that he and his team had found over 60 of the missing cars. This afternoon he found mine. I know the Metropolitan Police are understaffed, f**ked over by our government policies and mismanaged, but they still try. And our super cop Mike, is the cops cop. He will never read this, but I thank you from the bottom of my heart for finding our RAID truck. You are a bloody legend. Thank you to you and all the amazing police I met in the last few days. You guys rock.
I found them on a compare site. They were called Heathrow Meet and Greet, and they gave the car to a sub contractor called White Line (don’t laugh). The police told me not to trust anyone but the official Heathrow parking or Purple Parking. There’s a huge amount of investigation going on regarding this.
Basically, you leave your car with a driver inside the terminal and they take your car, store it, and are there to meet you when you land, with your keys. Awesome.
Now, I had used these people before, but on our return from zzzzzz, we were told there’s a problem and our car was stuck in the secure parking. So we immediately thought that we were being told a load of bollocks and we contacted the police and our insurance.
This was on the 3rd of January.
We got assigned a police officer called Mike and he called us every few days saying he was still looking for our beautiful Ford Ranger. His problem was that some 75 cars had gone in this scam.
It turns out, most Meet and Greet companies don’t have any storage facilities at all. They leave your car in a field or parked by the side of the road, or anywhere that won’t attract a fine. (So beware.)
Turns out that while we were away for Christmas, these bastards threw everyone’s keys in the bin and took all the money and ran. Leaving everyone thinking their cars were stolen.
This morning Mike told me that he and his team had found over 60 of the missing cars. This afternoon he found mine. I know the Metropolitan Police are understaffed, f**ked over by our government policies and mismanaged, but they still try. And our super cop Mike, is the cops cop. He will never read this, but I thank you from the bottom of my heart for finding our RAID truck. You are a bloody legend. Thank you to you and all the amazing police I met in the last few days. You guys rock.
I found them on a compare site. They were called Heathrow Meet and Greet, and they gave the car to a sub contractor called White Line (don’t laugh). The police told me not to trust anyone but the official Heathrow parking or Purple Parking. There’s a huge amount of investigation going on regarding this.
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It’s nothing new. This kind of thing has been reported on watchdog and in the media for years. In any other circumstance you wouldn’t just give your car keys to a random person at a random location so why do people do it at airports?
I’d always park my car myself or only use the reputable company that I knew had a secure facility. Even then though I’d rather keep my keys and park myself and take the shuttle bus than give some random bloke my car -especially anything with a decent engine or curb appeal that they might be tempted to take for a joyride (which is also frequently reported).
I’d always park my car myself or only use the reputable company that I knew had a secure facility. Even then though I’d rather keep my keys and park myself and take the shuttle bus than give some random bloke my car -especially anything with a decent engine or curb appeal that they might be tempted to take for a joyride (which is also frequently reported).
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I agree, BA318, but it happens and I wanted to point this out to a new generation of travellers. I have never used a 'we'll park it for you' even the official ones.
