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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 03:04
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Yes, there is a need to "get out there" and meet potential customers. However, how many of the airline employees at the Routes Global event, rather than the Routes Europe event, are looking to meet very small regional airports ? I'm sure the likes of Heathrow or Manchester would have found the global event very productive... but for Teesside to turn up, it seems a bit like the local neighbourhood restaurant putting adverts on national TV instead of giving out flyers on the local High St. Expensive, and substantially tries to talk to the wrong audience. Unless of course you want to follow the model of some Middle East airlines - namely throw unlimited amounts of money at something and build a company at any cost and not worry about the cost to the taxpayer

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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 03:12
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A very accurate description of what attendance at an event such as Routes On Line can offer. The hard work begins after the event when the networking between the contacts made begins.
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 04:45
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When you're a relatively small regional airport with limited options of potentially successful routes, wouldn't it be easier to pick up the phone and get in touch with the limited number of Airlines that could operate those limited number of routes? Would save a few dollars.
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 06:14
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Realistically, the pool of prospective users of Teesside is what, about a dozen airlines? If you aren't on first name terms with the key people at these airlines already I'd be asking why.

Don't forget that Teesside is publicly owned, losing money and funded out of a pot provided by central government. Are you sure that this is an appropriate use of your taxes?
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 07:01
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Harold previously told us two or three airlines were interested but so far zero. SWBKCB we believe its publicly owned but the parking scheme tells us its private land.
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 07:16
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and if they hadn't gone to it everyone on here would be demanding to know why and questioning their ambition....
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 07:47
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Chicken and egg situation then.
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 07:49
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Originally Posted by Cautious Optimist
and if they hadn't gone to it everyone on here would be demanding to know why and questioning their ambition....
Not everyone, I can assure you...
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 07:54
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MME sent some people to Routes Europe in Bergen in May earlier this year. Sensible decision to have gone. If MME had not gone to Routes *Europe*, I would be wondering why they did not go.

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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 10:13
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Routes all well and good if they happen, but what about the South side development? That seems to have gone very quiet apart from a link road being constructed.
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 10:58
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Don't think much has happened since this story from March - 2020. Also, never thought of it before, but how does the link road cross the railway?

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...loser-17848985

Also, never thought of it before, but how does the link road cross the railway?
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 11:18
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It doesn't, it begins after the railway has already passed over the A67. If you go on Google Earth, then click the time slider, it triggers a more up-to-date map that doesn't show as default, and the new road is visible
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 14:11
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Don't think much has happened since this story from March - 2020. Also, never thought of it before, but how does the link road cross the railway?

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...loser-17848985

Also, never thought of it before, but how does the link road cross the railway?
The new road starts next to Wilkinsons Garden Centre, which is the otherside of the railway bridge at Long Newton.
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 22:54
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I cannot fault the team going to the Routes World event, as this is the main one with more attendees and more contacts that can be made.
It wasn't just airlines that were there. Global cargo companies were there as well. Teesside's not just requiring european connections, but requirements for global connectivity for not only just passengers, but for freight as well.

Since Teesside was pretty much starting from pretty much zero when purchased. The need to get out there to make global contacts is a high priority.

In a way the attendance isn't just beneficial for the airport, but the wider region as a whole. This is due to the huge amount of developments going on around the region that ties into how easy Teesside Airport is to reach these developments. So attending the World event helps with the investment from around the globe being ploughed into the region as more providers can be met. So attending these events are on a multifaceted approach than what it seems from an outside point of view. There are multi layers that play into these events that are easily overlooked to a casual observer.

Don't go thinking that contracts are made and signed while at the event. In some quarters yes they can happen, this is mainly a networking event were getting details and brief conversations are had. It is in the weeks and months following the events is were talks can progress, going into deeper details and progress towards deals.
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Old 24th Oct 2022, 06:20
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It's always easy to spend somebody else's money - which Global cargo companies were there?
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Old 24th Oct 2022, 06:59
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The biggest problem MME will have is to convince airlines to choose them over NCL or LBA I'd have thought?
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Old 24th Oct 2022, 14:44
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
It's always easy to spend somebody else's money - which Global cargo companies were there?
The full list of airlines that attened the event.
https://www.routesonline.com/events/.../airlines/all/
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Old 24th Oct 2022, 19:37
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So looking at the list of airlines that were there, it contains exactly the companies that the airport should be talking to - Easyjet, Jet2, TUI, Wizz, Ryanair group companies, KLM, Pegasus, Sun Express.....
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Old 24th Oct 2022, 19:49
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And those airlines should already be sick of the sight of the MME marketing team, without having to go to the other side of the world...
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Old 24th Oct 2022, 20:14
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Just trying to imagine the scene of someone senior from the network planning team at KLM who has spent weeks thinking about the implications of noise/pollution related long term major slot reductions at AMS and in the few short days of the annual global Routes conference desperately trying to meet in person with various people from the likes of JFK or ATL .... only to have somebody from MME bugging them to expand on a short haul feeder route
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