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Old 25th Sep 2022, 12:40
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No new news just old, recycled news. Fire school is still operating any news on that.

If Doncaster closes does Teesside have the management skills to steal any of the scraps, on current results it looks like zero.

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Old 27th Sep 2022, 08:56
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Judging by the TUI announcement covered on the EMA thread, it doesn’t look like TUI will be offering anything new from MME next year to compensate for the DSA closure.
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Old 27th Sep 2022, 09:21
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I’d be very, very disappointed if team MME/TVCA weren’t pulling out all the stops to try and acquire 2excel and the 727’s from DSA.

I suppose time will tell
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Old 27th Sep 2022, 12:59
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Winter timetable just appeared on the great DTV movements web page.

Not sure what to make of it to be honest.

Quiet is an understatement!
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Old 27th Sep 2022, 21:06
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Originally Posted by RA85684
I’d be very, very disappointed if team MME/TVCA weren’t pulling out all the stops to try and acquire 2excel and the 727’s from DSA.

I suppose time will tell
Hangarage is the key and the T tail of the 727 can pose problems for some constructions. Mind you, it just fitted inside the ex RAF then Vulcan hangar at Donny.
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Old 28th Sep 2022, 16:23
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Doncaster closing will probably mean a few more pax for Teesside but hard to see it would be enough to add a lot of movements - more better load factors I suspect.
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Old 28th Sep 2022, 22:40
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Hopefully the recent good loads on the flights operating will convince airlines to add more routes or frequencies - I think Alicante has been sold out all September, and the TUI flights are fully booked for the rest of the season. Faro with Ryanair has been sold out a couple of times this month and Palma with Ryanair was pretty full on each flight.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 09:09
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Cant see at all DSA closing have any effect on Teesside.. Teesside winter timetable is bleak. operates complete different destinations to what DSA does, might pick up 1 or 2 bookings down to ALC that would be about it.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 14:47
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Originally Posted by aapeters
Cant see at all DSA closing have any effect on Teesside.. Teesside winter timetable is bleak. operates complete different destinations to what DSA does, might pick up 1 or 2 bookings down to ALC that would be about it.
And so it seems to be the case. Wizz have gone to LBA and TUI have scattered. Poor show from MME.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 15:10
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What other business does MME do to keep it going? How is it managing yet DSA can't ? I don't get it. HUY even quieter but is still open.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 15:21
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Because MME is funded by the nayor.. be easier to shut the place down. its not needed. too many UK regional airports all fighting for the same scraps
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 16:34
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Anyone know when the results of the strike/industrial action ballot will be announced? Think it closed yesterday..not sure how long these things take?

Mayor will be getting his PR Script ready😀
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 16:44
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It amazes me that Teesside will be open for a handful of flights over the winter. Surely this is in an inconvenience to them, and also the airlines? Can't see any positivity about the future of this airport unfortunately, as much as it would be great to see it a success.
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Old 30th Sep 2022, 10:58
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
What other business does MME do to keep it going? How is it managing yet DSA can't ? I don't get it. HUY even quieter but is still open.
From Ben Houchen's Facebook Page ;

brand new, good quality engineering jobs set to be created by US aviation firm Willis, who are investing £25m in our airport.
It’s great news that Teesside Airport is in the running to become a new Investment Zone, alongside Middlesbrough and Hartlepool town centres.
By making it easier for businesses to invest here by reducing their costs and getting them building even quicker, Teesside Airport can secure even more investment from firms like Willis who create the great jobs we deserve.


I'm not sure how Willis have risen to become such a big player at Teesside over such a short period of time but as well as ground handling and cargo they are also taking over fuel as well as establishing this new 'aircraft engineering facility' ?
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Old 30th Sep 2022, 17:05
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
Hangarage is the key and the T tail of the 727 can pose problems for some constructions. Mind you, it just fitted inside the ex RAF then Vulcan hangar at Donny.
They fit in the same hangar at Doncaster as hangar 1 Teesside. The mayor needs to move Fed Ex on to a freight shed and they could go in there.
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Old 30th Sep 2022, 19:42
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August CAA stats:

Terminal passengers: 23,358
  • 8% up on last month
  • 99% up on August 2021
  • 90% on August 2019 (pre covid)
  • Best month for passenger traffic since September 2010.

Individual routes:
  • Aberdeen: 2,155 (up 3% v July but down 21% v August 2021)
  • Belfast City: 848 (up 9% v July but down 29% v August 2021)
  • Jersey: 514 (down 21% v July and down 21% v August 2021)
  • Newquay: 267 (down 12% v July and down 57% v August 2021)
  • Alicante: 3,173 (up 0% v July and up 79% v August 2021)
  • Amsterdam: 5,040 (up 40% v July, only 457 passengers in August 2021)
  • Burgas: 1,581 (up 40% v July, no flights in August 2021)
  • Corfu: 1,285 (down 21% v July but up 160% v August 2021)
  • Dublin: 341 (down 18% v July, no flight in August 2021)
  • Faro: 3,036 (up 1% v July and up 332% August 2021)
  • Palma: 4,814 (up 10% v July and up 315% v August 2021)
Plus charters to Farnborough (27), Bergamo (184) and Eindhoven (89)

Loads continue to be strong on Aberdeen with over 24 passengers per flight and this is the best single operator month on the route since November 2015. Belfast was down year on year as there were only 40 rotations this August compared to 60 in 2021. Jersey is decent in terms of loads but down on last month due to fewer Saturdays in August compared to July and down on last year when Loganair also operated the route. Newquay had its best ever loads but one flight a week does limit the numbers on this route. Dublin has similar loads to Belfast but can this route really survive long term on 2 flights a week?

Amsterdam loads of 61.6 would still have been decent in pre-covid times good but the schedule still only half of what is was in 2019 which is the reason why the route is flying around 5,000 fewer people a month than throughout 2019. Ryanair had really strong loads on Alicante (176), Corfu (161), Faro (169) and Palma (169) - this compares to the 178 passengers per flight on the TUI Palma route. Bourgas was much better in August with 1,581 passengers but loads of 99 passengers still implies that there is not enough demand to fill two flights a week from Teesside (although two flights a week are still planned for next year).
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Old 30th Sep 2022, 20:49
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Tigertanaka..Excellent review as always!

376 departing passengers per day..338 in May…

Height of the season..so what these figures tell us..is that many more daily flights are required to fulfil the mayor’s promises?

Worrying that Dublin looks fragile and Belfast borderline?
Amsterdam continues to be a bit of an enigma..passengers are there…but KLM/Schiphol are in disarray..along with many other airports!

Growth everywhere in the present climate is on a knife edge.
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Old 6th Oct 2022, 16:12
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Oil Spill guys off to Cardiff.

TUI off to everywhere..except here.
Wizz off to Leeds

The sad demise of DSA hasn’t helped too much up here..
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Old 6th Oct 2022, 17:56
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The Oil Spill move to Cardiff is quoted as an interim measure, although admittedly once they're in it might be hard to tempt them back out. Cardiff has no more hangarage than we do and they'll want some so I guess it could come down to who's willing to build some first? TUI have announced extra capacity at EMA, LBA and MAN but it amounts to nowhere near the four or five aircraft based at DSA so don't rule them out just yet. Wizz is the kick in the teeth, given we had them before, coupled with the website leak last year that suggested a deal was at an advanced stage, they should have been an achievable target.

You didn't mention NPAS, who have been linked with both Birmingham and Leeds East.
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Old 6th Oct 2022, 18:06
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On the upside Teesside is breeding Cessnas Aeroschool previously Scenic is now I think up to five aircraft from two.
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