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Old 14th Oct 2023, 08:04
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Originally Posted by JonnyH
Jet2 will have their first charter flight, to my knowledge, from Teeside next month. They have a charter to Dortmund for NUFC fans.
Be interesting to see where the aircraft generates from to run this charter. A NUFC flight not going from NCL?
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Old 14th Oct 2023, 08:08
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You do realise not all NUFC fans live in Newcastle.
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
You do realise not all NUFC fans live in Newcastle.
Erm yes. I live in West Mids now (sob) so should I expect the flight to go via BHX?
NCL is a Jet2 base so has existing infrastructure.
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Old 14th Oct 2023, 08:27
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It will be a Leeds aircraft running the Jet2 charter.
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It will be a Leeds aircraft running the Jet2 charter.
Ta.
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 17:29
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Newcastle Airport has been announced as "Airport of the Year", voted for by "airlines accross the globe". "Four new airlines, six additional based aircraft, 30 new routes and twelve new designations"........ Ouch!
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 17:48
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Originally Posted by Grumpy1
Newcastle Airport has been announced as "Airport of the Year", voted for by "airlines accross the globe". "Four new airlines, six additional based aircraft, 30 new routes and twelve new designations"........ Ouch!
Have you posted this on every airport thread on the forum?

They were the only UK airport nominated and this is the following criteria for voting.

'When voting opens, airlines can nominate up to five airports and destinations that they feel have provided exceptional marketing support over the past twelve months.'

Just for perspective.

Well done though to NCL.
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 18:45
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Wonder if Ben has noticed!
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 20:16
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Originally Posted by onion
Have you posted this on every airport thread on the forum?

They were the only UK airport nominated and this is the following criteria for voting.

'When voting opens, airlines can nominate up to five airports and destinations that they feel have provided exceptional marketing support over the past twelve months.'

Just for perspective.

Well done though to NCL.
He only ever posts on this Teesside thread, he doesn't have any other interaction on any other threads. Even his comments aren't looking at in a positive, always seems to be talking down rather than looking up. The way his comments are I'm pretty sure who it is.

The Awards that Teesside is up for is in The British Travel Awards, in which the awards evening is on the 28th November.

The category is: A66 : Best UK Airport for Leisure Travel
Bristol Airport
East Midlands
Exeter
Glasgow
Liverpool John Lennon
London City
London Gatwick
London Heathrow
London Luton
London Stansted
Teesside International Airport
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 20:21
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Lets face it, all these awards aren't worth the paper thwy are written on.

Hardly worth commenting upon - nice evening out though, I suppose.
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 20:25
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August CAA Stats.

Cargo 6 Tonnes
Aircraft Movements 2,245
Terminal Passengers 25,901

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Old 17th Oct 2023, 22:26
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I agree these awards are very flawed and without a single recognised awards body they are meaningless. Ben makes a fool of himself using it to take a dig at Newcastle instead of just enjoying the achievement. Obviously Teesside and Newcastle can't both be Airport of the Year and with the general anti-Teesside attitude on here people are going to lean more towards Newcastle as being the more justified recipient.

That said, I'm curious - which entity is considered the more prestigious? TTG or World Routes? And does Newcastle have any further nominations lined up like Teesside does and if not, at what point do multiple wins/nominations nullify Newcastle's claim to the title?

I'm told the Skytrax Awards are the Oscars of the travel industry and the one you really want to be winning.
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 22:42
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"Have you posted this on every airport thread on the forum?"
What a bizarre question?
Certainly agree that these rewards are meaningless which is why it becomes embarrassing when politicians and their supporters proclaim them at any airport as a measure of success.
The progress that NCL have summarised is interesting if true however although it is beyond me why this appears to make Harold uncomfortable.
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 22:58
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Cautious Optomist is spot on as usual. Camera of the year, Car of the year, Phone of the year, Insurance company of the year etc etc. Its all nonsense. The progress being claimed by NCL is surprising however, so can those who play with the numbers confirm it's true?
PS: Please NO movement's stats.
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 23:24
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Originally Posted by Grumpy1
Newcastle Airport has been announced as "Airport of the Year", voted for by "airlines accross the globe". "Four new airlines, six additional based aircraft, 30 new routes and twelve new designations"........ Ouch!
What a bizarre post for the Teesside forum!
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 23:32
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Why NO movements. They contribute to each airport finances all around the world. If you want to ditch a revenue stream then more fool you. So if you rule Movements out you rule out a performance measure.

Newcastle
Year Passenger Numbers
2018 5,332,238
2019 5,198,952
2020 1,061,146
2021 1,022,540
2022 4,127,035

Jan-August 2019 3,578,378
Jan-August 2023 3,239,027

So Newcastle is in its 4th year of being below pre covid levels. Whereas Teesside is two years on the trot above pre covid levels and growing.





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Old 18th Oct 2023, 00:26
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It would be impossible for us not to be above pre-Covid levels. Would we still be above pre-Covid levels if all the routes we have now had existed in 2019??

I think a more accurate way to view Newcastles fortunes is to note they have rarely topped the pre-2008 recession let alone Covid.

Given a large portion of their trade comes from our area, we should be preventing them from ever topping it as our business builds back up over the long term, without ever really hurting them.
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Old 18th Oct 2023, 06:17
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I see the green eyed monster was let out of it's cage last night!

It would be impossible for us not to be above pre-Covid levels. Would we still be above pre-Covid levels if all the routes we have now had existed in 2019??

I think a more accurate way to view Newcastles fortunes is to note they have rarely topped the pre-2008 recession let alone Covid.
Quite right - Teesside was on it's knee's pre-Covid. As I posted on the Newcastle thread yesterday, NCL hasn't yet passed the peak of 2007 but that is more down to the weak regional economy than airport performance - as the old saying goes, "London sneezes and the north-east catches a cold!"

If we are quoting pointless stats, maybe the drop in movements in August means MME is in a slump?

There's more interesting stuff in this months MME figures - particularly the RYR routes, looks a bit flat and in peak season all below the 95% average load factor that Ryanair allegedly look for across their system

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Perhaps forget covid in the figures and compare to post Peel figures. Its been a good year all round but is the growth starting to stall.
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Other threads reporting £100m expansion’s announced for Leeds and Belfast airports.

Maybe confidence now returning to the aviation sector.If so, all airports will continue to expand..both movements and passenger figures?

SWBKCB…is right…in that the NE economy is the major player here.
There was only one way Teesside could go with the investment it’s had..and that was up !

See what next years holiday flights bring…
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