Teesside-2

[N707ZS]

Passenger numbers must be on the up Harold, its great to see 4 737s flights on a Saturday.

[SWBKCB]

It's a bit like how football didn't exist before the Premier League...

[GrahamK]

If it helps , the Emirates 777 probably carries more cargo than all these ATRs and Metroliners etc in one go.

Good to see MME thriving though 😀

[onion]

Originally Posted by GrahamK

If it helps , the Emirates 777 probably carries more cargo than all these ATRs and Metroliners etc in one go.

Good to see MME thriving though 😀

Not quite, 777 will carry, dependent on sector length and pax numbers somewhere between 16t and 19t on average.

Not sure why we need the Emirates comparison though!

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by onion

Not quite, 777 will carry, dependent on sector length and pax numbers somewhere between 16t and 19t on average.

Not sure why we need the Emirates comparison though!

Down to Highwide's meanderings about Machiavellian goings on and Deep State intervention in cargo charters...

[Jamesair1]

just adds a bit of perspective

[Hipennine]

Originally Posted by TartinTon

Rubbish. 28 mins NCL to Nissan Sunderland vs 43 mins MME to Nissan Sunderland.

Objectively, the difference in time argument (if that important with a 17 minute difference) should be wheels down to factory gate. How do freight processing times at MME compare with NCL? 28 minutes on the road between NCL and Nissan, is very optimistic at busier times on the western by-pass or central motorway around/through Newcastle. Coupled with extra track miles to NCL, there's probably no difference in total time associated with either airport.

[SWBKCB]

Going back to my football analogy, you'll remember that when the freight centre opened a number of agents where involved in promoting it - they are probably going to be the biggest influence on what goes where.

https://neutralairpartner.com/charte...ional-airport/

https://www.caasint.com/air-partner-...cargo-flights/

[N707ZS]

From that,

Walter Jones, Head of Cargo at Teesside International Airport, says: “Teesside International Airport has the capacity and the network to fulfil the current need to fly in 10,000 tonnes of cargo and more. Through working with businesses like Air Partner we know cargo will be taken care of.

“In two years, Teesside International Airport could be handling 20,000 tonnes of cargo per annum.”

Was looking for the emoji laughing rolling on its back.

[highwideandugly]

Whoh! I never mentioned Emirates!

My query still , Nissan is within Sunderland councils remit .Sunderland Council get a pay off from Newcastle Airports profits.

So..logic states that if flights.which used to go..mainly to Newcastle..now are going to Teesside..then…less money into Sunderland councils coffers?


However another thought and probably more relevant is the creation of the Freeport..I stand to be corrected..but are the goods coming into Teesside Airport subject to different tariffs? So Nissan saving money by using Teesside?

[N707ZS]

Think the freeport is a no. The airport isn't in the full freeport as the dock areas of Teesside.

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by highwideandugly

Whoh! I never mentioned Emirates!

My query still , Nissan is within Sunderland councils remit .Sunderland Council get a pay off from Newcastle Airports profits.

So..logic states that if flights.which used to go..mainly to Newcastle..now are going to Teesside..then…less money into Sunderland councils coffers?

However another thought and probably more relevant is the creation of the Freeport..I stand to be corrected..but are the goods coming into Teesside Airport subject to different tariffs? So Nissan saving money by using Teesside?

No - Sunderland Council don't manage how Nissan do business, doubt whether Nissan have that much influence/are that bothered on how parts are delivered, they will just be interested in cost and timeliness.

No - the airport is part of the Freeport (not sure it is up and running) but there is no impact on tariffs when the goods just get shipped through with no processing.

[jorvik]

Could it be that NCL is just too busy? Are the handling agents saying we probably can’t take this ad hoc on? Let’s face it, there is certainly down time at MME, the staff will be glad for something to do I would imagine.

[N707ZS]

Originally Posted by mmeteesside

Completely different operator… and a brand new one at that. TUI have decided Teesside to Dalaman will work better as a replacement

From the Leeds thread. Question is still open at Teesside, why build a route up over a few years and then say to your customers you cannot go there as we are only now going to Dalaman, you will have to fly from Leeds or Newcastle.

[AircraftOperations]

Is there a difference in charter cost between NCL and MME? E.g. additional fuel burn, landing & handling costs etc? It may be that a c.£200 cheaper flight to MME is prerefable to the customer - whether or not there is a few minutes to be saved by road. Being able to prove you didn't choose the most expensive option and still hit a deadline could be important to some logistics types.

[Beafer]

Airport land

With the Mayors different friends moving onto the airport land, does anyone know who owns what in relation to the 2015 map shown?

Do the 2 special friends now own all of the south side?

[SWBKCB]

My understanding is the ownership of the land hasn't changed but the commercial rights to the business park have been split.

[N707ZS]

The builders seem to think the special friends own the road and the Southside.

[Beafer]

Teesside drone near miss.

Teesside in the news - Drone on the centre line.

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/ne...ject-stockton/

[P330]

Cargo movements seem to be good again this week. I think around 6 or 7 today at least with more planned tomorrow.

Is something causing this spike or is this the new norm?