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Old 20th Jul 2023, 14:18
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No idea. Cannot see them building the plant on the Southside.

The cargo figures for July should be good with the latest Nissan flights. We can thank Brexit for something for once.
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I have feeling it is more than likely going to be built on Seal Sands along with the following.

Alfanar £1.5bn plant.
Greenergy two plants one aviation one marine.
Willis £200m plant, presume will be on Seal Sands.

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Nova Pangea (102 million litres per year to go to British Airways)
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 14:34
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
No idea. Cannot see them building the plant on the Southside.

The cargo figures for July should be good with the latest Nissan flights. We can thank Brexit for something for once.
How does Brexit come into it? At a guess more to do with summer plant shutdowns.
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 14:35
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Originally Posted by Harold77
I have feeling it is more than likely going to be built on Seal Sands along with the following.

Alfanar £1.5bn plant.
Greenergy two plants one aviation one marine.
Willis £200m plant, presume will be on Seal Sands.

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Nova Pangea (102 million litres per year to go to British Airways)
I agree, but does anybody know?
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 15:57
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How does Brexit come into it? At a guess more to do with summer plant shutdowns.
The mess at Dover where the imports come through.
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 17:07
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I agree, but does anybody know?
I'm fairly sure more details will be revealed in the coming weeks/ months.
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 17:38
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"How does Brexit come into it? At a guess more to do with summer plant shutdowns"

Nissan along with other motor manufacturers made it clear that there businesses were not sustainable when outside of the EU so Boris agreed to fund Nissan's post-Brexit shortfall. Pre-Brexit, there were few backlogs at the ports but this is not now the case so just in-time deliveries are flown to NCL or MME as they always have been to some extent. Boris was to embarrassed to disclose how much the taxpayer was paying Nisan to remain in the UK but those in logistics say that the taxpayer is also funding these flights as thay are a consequence of Brexit.

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Old 20th Jul 2023, 17:45
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I'm fairly sure more details will be revealed in the coming weeks/ months.

So far there have been a dozen businesses with thousands of jobs that the mayor has anounced as going to Teesworks but have gone elsewhere and were probably never coming, so dont hold your breath as there is a chance it may just get quietly forgotten about like the others.

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Old 20th Jul 2023, 19:16
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Yeh ..but that’s a lot of revenue…landing fees etc. ..maybe not in tonnes.

I’m still confused as to why they are using the airport when Newcastle is nearer and has dealt with these flights for years previously?

Lack of staff and desire at Newcastle or massive subsidies at Teesside?
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 21:10
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Originally Posted by Grumpy1
I'm fairly sure more details will be revealed in the coming weeks/ months.

So far there have been a dozen businesses with thousands of jobs that the mayor has anounced as going to Teeswork but have gone elsewhere and were probably never coming, so dont hold your breath as there is a chance it may just get quietly forgotten about like the others.
A news piece yesterday by the Mayor claims Teesworks is almost full after just 18 months
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 21:15
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Yeh ..but that’s a lot of revenue…landing fees etc. ..maybe not in tonnes.

I’m still confused as to why they are using the airport when Newcastle is nearer and has dealt with these flights for years previously?

Lack of staff and desire at Newcastle or massive subsidies at Teesside?
In the past, they've been split 50/50 between us and NCL and they've been much shorter series, now they are more frequent and we're enjoying 100% of them.

Newcastle is only nearer to Sunderland as the crow flies, the setup of the road network makes Teesside faster to get to. The best example I can think of of this is Ellis Short when he owned Sunderland FC, by sheer fluke he flew into us with a shooting party during hunting season, didn't realise MME existed before then, and is said to have vowed not to use NCL again. For a long time he appeared to be true to his word although I believe he returned there towards the end of his tenure.
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 21:28
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Originally Posted by Cautious Optimist
In the past, they've been split 50/50 between us and NCL and they've been much shorter series, now they are more frequent and we're enjoying 100% of them.

Newcastle is only nearer to Sunderland as the crow flies, the setup of the road network makes Teesside faster to get to. The best example I can think of of this is Ellis Short when he owned Sunderland FC, by sheer fluke he flew into us with a shooting party during hunting season, didn't realise MME existed before then, and is said to have vowed not to use NCL again. For a long time he appeared to be true to his word although I believe he returned there towards the end of his tenure.
Rubbish. 28 mins NCL to Nissan Sunderland vs 43 mins MME to Nissan Sunderland.
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Old 20th Jul 2023, 21:35
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Just something I've heard several times before 🤷‍♂️
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 09:39
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Teesside has three of the four Vulcanair AN26Bs parked up by this morning.
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 11:49
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
Teesside has three of the four Vulcanair AN26Bs parked up by this morning.
Are they all on Nissan charters?
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 12:49
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Five cargo flights in from Ostrava today.
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 12:56
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Shame there's no spare IL76s about.

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Old 21st Jul 2023, 14:57
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Airport reporting twenty three tonnes of cargo this week.

https://www.teessideinternational.co...-break-records
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 15:08
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Strange the cargo has been going straight from the plane to 7 ton trucks as it has always done and gone nowhere near the "white elephant" cargo building. And its nowhere near the record when Nissan had the engine problem way back.
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 15:15
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The airport hasn't said the cargo has broke records. It does say that it will be most passengers handled in a single day since it was purchased in 2019, hence breaking record.
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