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Old 8th Feb 2021, 16:43
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Well there are queues outside vaccination centres. Plenty of video evidence in recent days shown on media.
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Old 11th Feb 2021, 14:22
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Maybe I missed it, but easyJet new S21 route from MAN:
Kos twice weekly June- October
Enfidha twice weekly June- October
Newquay 3-5 times a week June-October

All appear bookable.
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 14:17
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I notice that if you fly in from the current "Red List" countries, where mandatory hotel quarantine is required, you can only enter the UK via Heathrow, Gatwick, London City, Farnborough or Birmingham. Unfortunately, at this time arrival via Manchester is not allowed.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/booking-...ive-in-england
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 15:17
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January 2021

MAN – 127,638 down 92.8%

STN – 104,477 down 94.5%

EMA – 4,802 down 97.5%

12m rolling

STN – 5,745,700 down 79.6%

MAN – 5,388,648 down 81.7%

EMA – 713,989 down 84.7%

Cargo

EMA – 32,777 up 9.2%

STN – 23,173 up 48.4%

MAN – 3,879 down 51.5%
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 17:34
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For context it would be interesting if you would include Birmingham for comparison in future.
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 18:01
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BHX don't issue their pax numbers anymore, you have to wait for the CAA to produce them otherwise I would
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 18:24
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Quarantine Policy or not as the case may be.

Yes the Warmington On Sea Platoon have stuck again......

An airport with no services is on the list but the busiest outside London isnt.

Either Whitehall has not a clue about how large Manchester is (likely) or they are being vindictive after Andy Burnham totally embarrassed them last year (equally likely). They probably think he runs the airport, that's how out of touch they are re airport policy.

Am I jumping the gun or are the words "I have a cunning plan marching with ill deserved confidence in the direction of this initiative" ?

Credit Lord Blackadder

Ps One might have assumed that the MAN CEO would be apoplectic, and all over the media by now, we live in hope.
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 19:45
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Have you considered that this situation might have arisen as a matter of MAG CEO’s choice rather than Government doing the dirty on MAN? Wait and watch.
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 20:10
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But surely there aren't at present any flights from red list countries into Manchester?
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 20:38
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Maybe not direct but quite possibly on connections.
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 21:11
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But you will be escorted to a quarantine hotel at your first airport. Or are you still thinking of the Dublin dodge?
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 21:33
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How many people from the North West even know of Paraguay or French Guiana ,or Eswatini ?

The Red List does include Portugal (Flights suspended and frontier with Spain closed ) and the UAE (Emirates passenger flights already suspended ) yet Etihad still flying -THIS EITHER STOPS come Monday or there will be a need to introduce a quarantine for this particular service.

Alternative routes are also closed off; primary connection point Amsterdam flights have been suspended for some weeks (By the Dutch authorities)

Just Air France and Swiss possibilities for perhaps a dozen global connections a week!

Frankly this RED List is something of a sop to the right wing media.

Even in normal times the majority of South America illicites pretty marginal traffic flows to and from the UK; similarly the Sub Saharan African routes

Just South Africa, Portugal and the UAE are significant and ALL those have flights suspended anyway.

Its too little too late, as we have come to expect with the shambles of an administration we have to endure for 4 more years !
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 21:40
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Quite possible no hotels at Manchester would sign up to be used . Given the situation in Australia where some hotels used to accommodate travellers , now have their own mini outbreaks it might not be a totally bad decision
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 21:44
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Well last time I looked there were no flights to BHX from Paraguay so pray tell what the thinking is to even include BHX ?

Dont forget there were some misguided civil servants who thought Birmingham might be the answer to London capacity, I appreciate things have changed but it does give scale to the outdated mind set.

Whitehall is stuck in the 60s whilst the rest of the World has moved on .
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 21:46
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Not this old chestnut the Garda and GB border force share FULL disclosure of passenger manifests across the CTA and have done for many many years

Route through Dublin go land side and the Eire travel restrictions are enforced, connect onto the UK and you will be subject to the English or Scottish restrictions - Indeed make a false declaration and your going to be screwed.

Other than Lisbon where would you consider a possible market to use this dodge anyway.

Its not as through Dublin has an extensive range of long haul itself right now - 3 Aer Lingus US east coast, and a daily UA to Newark Air Canada to Toronto (where entry restrictions already exist at levels that make our red list laughable)
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Old 12th Feb 2021, 21:51
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Yes it does smell of Whitehall’s lack of understanding of just how large Manchester can be to some extent, probably aren’t even aware of Ethiopian or the ME3 or indeed the multiple flights to Pakistan that continue to operate ( albeit Emirates having suspended passenger flights at the moment)
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Old 13th Feb 2021, 00:14
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Frankly this RED List is something of a sop to the right wing media.
Ah, so this is a right wing thing??? Those MP's considered the most right wing of the current compliment are the ones calling loudest for society to be opened up. The most ardent calls for the world to be locked down and borders closed indefinitely are coming from other quarters. Perhaps it is wise to look with more impartiality to dilemmas of this sort, rather than automatically blaming "the right wing" for any things you may disapprove of.

Whatever the reasoning may be, it will be interesting to learn why the busiest UK airport outside London (and in the immediate term, second busiest in the UK) is excluded from these quarantine hotel plans at present.

How many people from the North West even know of Paraguay or French Guiana ,or Eswatini ?
Probably a similar proportion as you would find amongst Londoners?

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Old 13th Feb 2021, 02:06
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Is it possible for pax to transit through Doha from UAE?
Not sure what the political situation is at the moment.
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Old 13th Feb 2021, 06:28
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Maybe the phone call from Whitehall went to the cargo team.......





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Old 13th Feb 2021, 07:17
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Its classic of Bojo behaviours and said its a sop read as wrote - Not that the ERG, Lord Sumption and their Talk Radio mates are advocators; they are anything but , however listen to the narrative of many of the right wing (modern working classes) and xenophobic close the borders rhetoric, this is designed to sooth their ears.

Eswatini (Swaziland) has a small but vibrant expat community in South London; however !

Others (with no political power or influence) have been calling on government to introduce genuine quarantine systems for months and months landing on deaf ears. Indeed the government knows full well they have a challenge due to massive understaffing in the border agencies right now.

Realistically ALL arrivals should be quarantined properly or don’t bother .

Don’t infer from my writings I am some sort of COVID denier that would far from the truth - My own niece a healthy 23 year old has been suffering Long COVID symptoms for 9 months , and my wife is a nurse on the Front line in the NHS working in North London.

My criticism isn’t the red list per say either, no more rather the political spin on this shortly to be imposed compulsory scheme delivered to the populous as something it isn’t -a fundamental closure of the frontiers.

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