Coronavirus Impact on Air Travel
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Oban, Scotland
Posts: 1,845
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Wikipedia, where else! The entry suggests there's a debate on the matter although recent analysis suggests that superinfection was the major killer. A cytokine storm is of course the cause of serious illness with Covid19.
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Denmark
Posts: 418
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
German Passenger Traffic -91.4% in the week ending 22 November. 340k travelling vs 4m+ same week last year.
Scenario expectation that H1 2021 (Jan - Jun) will be -75% of 2019, with -90% between year end and Easter.
Scenario expectation that H1 2021 (Jan - Jun) will be -75% of 2019, with -90% between year end and Easter.
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Durham
Age: 79
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
So in the meantime we should all do our best to reduce the virus infection, maybe like what they do in Germany, wear a face covering on leaving their home. Every little helps and maybe we might be able to have a holiday by air next year, if we still have to have the face covering, so be it.
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In the sticks
Posts: 9,860
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From the BBC
Hope for the future and maybe a quicker recovery in the west than predicted?
Air travel within China has broadly recovered and during its Golden Week holiday season 425 million people travelled around the country, according to the Chinese tourism ministry.
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Outer London
Age: 43
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
China and the UK (and elsewhere in the West) aren’t comparable, for better or worse. Over there you have absolute compliance with rules and restrictions and brutal (literally?) enforcement with effective tracing. Here you have half-hearted, reluctant or no compliance and a sizeable market in conspiracists. Here we have near zero enforcement unless you are really taking the pee - go out anywhere and you’ll see rule-breakers all over the place but police are nowhere to be seen. Here as is well documented we have ineffective track and trace.
Without a vaccine we are not going to have China’s level of ‘success’ anytime soon. And this is where the case of the Lawrence Fox’s of the country and the anti-vaxxers falls. They want the freedoms but oppose to the very measures necessary to give those freedoms because they are freedom-limiting. Neither by and large do they want or trust a vaccine, which would give them the freedom they want without the restrictions they detest.
Without a vaccine we are not going to have China’s level of ‘success’ anytime soon. And this is where the case of the Lawrence Fox’s of the country and the anti-vaxxers falls. They want the freedoms but oppose to the very measures necessary to give those freedoms because they are freedom-limiting. Neither by and large do they want or trust a vaccine, which would give them the freedom they want without the restrictions they detest.
Join Date: May 2005
Location: U.K
Posts: 782
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Only because you have a similar view point, others do not. Airportplanner is suggesting that there are only 2 solutions, either accept draconian rule of law and limited freedoms or accept the vaccine. I would argue that the likes of Lawrence Fox amongst others are not suggesting one or the other, more neither are deemed mandatory or warranted.
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,236
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
All it will take is the confidence that the most vulnerable and health services are well on the way to being protected and the end of the nightmare is in sight then aviation will be screaming loud to end all restrictions - not looking for new ones to be imposed.
Thread Starter
I think everybody knows the answer to the question regarding will it be massively better able to look after people or will people just want the Govt tp spend £175 billion every year.
AirportPlanner1
+1 from me.
+1 from me.
Thread Starter
Only because you have a similar view point, others do not. Airportplanner is suggesting that there are only 2 solutions, either accept draconian rule of law and limited freedoms or accept the vaccine. I would argue that the likes of Lawrence Fox amongst others are not suggesting one or the other, more neither are deemed mandatory or warranted.
Join Date: May 2018
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Seems as though TUI don't know how to look look after their own staff these days.
Almost 600 Permanent Cabin Staff, refused Furlough when the other 1000s are getting it without issue!
Link to the Change.org petition: change.org/p/uk-treasury-furlough-eligible-tui-employees-443f81ff-92de-4b7b-a6af-ab7c3ef445e3?redirect=false
Link to the Financial Times New article: ft.com/content/e48da86b-d3cc-4601-8f6c-ddf519758c1b
They've even got MPs fighting for them: twitter.com/Jamie4North/status/1333848685130756097
I've signed the petition! everyone is hitting desperate times, why shouldn't these people get help they deserve and are entitled to? I encourage everyone to sign and share
Almost 600 Permanent Cabin Staff, refused Furlough when the other 1000s are getting it without issue!
Link to the Change.org petition: change.org/p/uk-treasury-furlough-eligible-tui-employees-443f81ff-92de-4b7b-a6af-ab7c3ef445e3?redirect=false
Link to the Financial Times New article: ft.com/content/e48da86b-d3cc-4601-8f6c-ddf519758c1b
They've even got MPs fighting for them: twitter.com/Jamie4North/status/1333848685130756097
I've signed the petition! everyone is hitting desperate times, why shouldn't these people get help they deserve and are entitled to? I encourage everyone to sign and share
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Between the flower pots
Posts: 429
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not sure what category you fall into but the report states you need sympathy for your views. Maybe your views are actually acting against the national interest and you are attempting to undermine the way out of this mess? https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...9-anti-vaxxers
Thread Starter
Not sure what category you fall into but the report states you need sympathy for your views. Maybe your views are actually against the national interest and you are attempting to undermine the way out? https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...9-anti-vaxxers
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Outer London
Age: 43
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I agree, there is a core on here who demand everybody line up for their mandatory vaccine and anybody who doesn't comply becomes effectively a non citizen with zero right but then at the same time proclaiming how great freedoms are in the UK. Amazing how easy it is for people to be taken in.
Thread Starter
https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/
Believe the science is the mantra, the vaccine is safe because we told you so
But seems even the science of testing doesn't quite cut the mustard. Wonder is there a real secondary agenda ?
Believe the science is the mantra, the vaccine is safe because we told you so
But seems even the science of testing doesn't quite cut the mustard. Wonder is there a real secondary agenda ?