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Originally Posted by PAXboy
It takes time to know a new machine. Better safe than sorry. Everyone wants everything Yesterday.
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Originally Posted by El Bunto
They've been in the A350 sim since at least February. They 'know' the machine inside out.
The approach looks to have been broken off quite early at around 1500 feet and there were unsubstantiated rumours elsewhere that was due to a wind shear alert
Has this only been publicised because it happened to the shiny new plane that a lot of people are wishing to try out? If it had been an A32x or B777 not a single word would have been publicly uttered about it?
Has this only been publicised because it happened to the shiny new plane that a lot of people are wishing to try out? If it had been an A32x or B777 not a single word would have been publicly uttered about it?
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Originally Posted by EGAC is Better
Has this only been publicised because it happened to the shiny new plane that a lot of people are wishing to try out? If it had been an A32x or B777 not a single word would have been publicly uttered about it?
Yes, the fact that it's a new type in the fleet makes it of additional interest, but I think we'd have heard about it anyway, regardless of the aircraft involved.
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772 Refurbishment
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone knows if/when the G-YMM batch of 772s are due for refurbishment? I’m aware that all the G-VII are complete but I recently flew home from BOS aboard G-YMMG in WT+ and it’s fair to say the cabin was pretty knackered and in need of some TLC. Is this due to happen soon?
Just wondering if anyone knows if/when the G-YMM batch of 772s are due for refurbishment? I’m aware that all the G-VII are complete but I recently flew home from BOS aboard G-YMMG in WT+ and it’s fair to say the cabin was pretty knackered and in need of some TLC. Is this due to happen soon?
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Originally Posted by JamesC787
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone knows if/when the G-YMM batch of 772s are due for refurbishment? I’m aware that all the G-VII are complete but I recently flew home from BOS aboard G-YMMG in WT+ and it’s fair to say the cabin was pretty knackered and in need of some TLC. Is this due to happen soon?
Just wondering if anyone knows if/when the G-YMM batch of 772s are due for refurbishment? I’m aware that all the G-VII are complete but I recently flew home from BOS aboard G-YMMG in WT+ and it’s fair to say the cabin was pretty knackered and in need of some TLC. Is this due to happen soon?
The 4 class 777s are expected to have first config reduced to 8 seats and new Club World installed also from LHR.
It's currently a very very slow process but much if it has been taking place during other checks using a 3rd party. Hopefully space in-house will be freed up to help speed up the process for consistency.
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Another questionnaire
By email - and it looks exactly the same as the one they sent 3 months ago..... complete waste of time as you can never actually fill in anything useful in the way of real issues
Such as Catering, seats, pricing, cancellations etc etc
Such as Catering, seats, pricing, cancellations etc etc
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
They are all due for refurbishment. However, the LGW fleet is first in line. So once they are complete the (majority of time) LHR based frames will follow. There's been various rumours of the majority YMM* fleet to be converted to 3 class only, with 10-abreast in World Traveller config and new Club World at LHR.
The 4 class 777s are expected to have first config reduced to 8 seats and new Club World installed also from LHR.
It's currently a very very slow process but much if it has been taking place during other checks using a 3rd party. Hopefully space in-house will be freed up to help speed up the process for consistency.
The 4 class 777s are expected to have first config reduced to 8 seats and new Club World installed also from LHR.
It's currently a very very slow process but much if it has been taking place during other checks using a 3rd party. Hopefully space in-house will be freed up to help speed up the process for consistency.
G-RAES/G-VIIA-N/S are to be reconfigured from 14F/48J/40W/124Y to 8F/49J/40W/138Y
All the 77W’s are to also be reconfigured from there current 14F/56J/44W/183Y to a HI-J config of 8F/72J/48W/136Y
All the aircraft will be fitted with Club suite, a 10 a-breast cabin in WT. The 4 class will also be fitted with a new F seat similar in design to the seat on the 789.
the configuration shown above are what is currently planned. However further changes are possible.
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Looks like the F offering over the fleet will be significantly reduced. Will be interesting to see what that results in-
More Revenue seats and less redemptions and upgrades
Fuller busier smaller cabins with harder to get seats which are more expensive.
Will 8 seat F cabins appear on 78-1, some A35K, and 77X ?
A380 reduce F cabin?
I quite liked it when it was a half empty F cabin!
More Revenue seats and less redemptions and upgrades
Fuller busier smaller cabins with harder to get seats which are more expensive.
Will 8 seat F cabins appear on 78-1, some A35K, and 77X ?
A380 reduce F cabin?
I quite liked it when it was a half empty F cabin!
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
Looks like the F offering over the fleet will be significantly reduced. Will be interesting to see what that results in-
More Revenue seats and less redemptions and upgrades
Fuller busier smaller cabins with harder to get seats which are more expensive.
Will 8 seat F cabins appear on 78-1, some A35K, and 77X ?
A380 reduce F cabin?
I quite liked it when it was a half empty F cabin!
More Revenue seats and less redemptions and upgrades
Fuller busier smaller cabins with harder to get seats which are more expensive.
Will 8 seat F cabins appear on 78-1, some A35K, and 77X ?
A380 reduce F cabin?
I quite liked it when it was a half empty F cabin!
All the A350-1000s are to be 3-class .
As for the A380, with the new "8 seat" First cabins being rolled out across the rest of BAs fleet, this could help make the A380 more efficient by better use of its cabin pace and increasing seat capacity. The 8 seat First cabin could be moved to the forward upper-deck leaving the larger downstairs section for World Traveller/World Traveller Plus. The remaining upper-deck could be the new Club World seats.
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
I was lead to believe that some, if not all B787-10s would be in a 4 class config as they will be flying many East Coast USA and Middle Eastern routes where First is in demand
BA have decided to only fit the 787-10’s with a flight crew rest area but not a cabin crew rest area. This means that the aircraft will be limited to the length of flights it can operate. The aircraft will be able to fly as far west as Seattle and as far east as Delhi and Mumbai. Heard yesterday that the first 787-10 route is going to be Atlanta followed by Houston and Newark. Although this is yet to be officially confirmed.
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Re the B777 new config.....whati about the remaining fleet
G YMMA-F G YMMR-U are there any plans to change their configuration from 48/24/203.
would are sense to follow the rest of the ER fleet and just st have 1 configuration.
G YMMA-F G YMMR-U are there any plans to change their configuration from 48/24/203.
would are sense to follow the rest of the ER fleet and just st have 1 configuration.
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Originally Posted by spacedog
Re the B777 new config.....whati about the remaining fleet
G YMMA-F G YMMR-U are there any plans to change their configuration from 48/24/203.
would are sense to follow the rest of the ER fleet and just st have 1 configuration.
G YMMA-F G YMMR-U are there any plans to change their configuration from 48/24/203.
would are sense to follow the rest of the ER fleet and just st have 1 configuration.
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The reduction is F is no surprise. Once C reached the Flat Bed and enclosed pod, then Firt has to offer a LOT more in this day and age.
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Originally Posted by PAXboy
The reduction is F is no surprise. Once C reached the Flat Bed and enclosed pod, then Firt has to offer a LOT more in this day and age.
I used to occasionally come across people who'd travel in First but it's several years since that happened.
As C now offers everything you used to get in F only 5 years ago why pay the extra?
As C now offers everything you used to get in F only 5 years ago why pay the extra?
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There are differences and at the moment the two class experiences are most certainly not like for like.
Apart from the hard product/seat (For BA on A350 currently only) the seats remain different and F is better than current J.
The staff/pax ratio in F vs J is superior.
The toilet and personal space ratio is higher.
Cabin generally smaller, quieter for sleeping
The food offering is better.
For BA at LHR T5 the lounge offering is better (eg CCR) and the new(ish) First Wing private security channel is a great advantage. The J lounges at LHR are often a 'zoo' .
Priority disembarkation (eg F off first) is great at places like MIA and JFK where security is a nightmare
Others airlines differentiate even more eg LH private limousine ground transfers
FF tier point accumulation is higher in F than J
For those that appreciate these things (and often the fare difference is not massive) why would you not?
Apart from the hard product/seat (For BA on A350 currently only) the seats remain different and F is better than current J.
The staff/pax ratio in F vs J is superior.
The toilet and personal space ratio is higher.
Cabin generally smaller, quieter for sleeping
The food offering is better.
For BA at LHR T5 the lounge offering is better (eg CCR) and the new(ish) First Wing private security channel is a great advantage. The J lounges at LHR are often a 'zoo' .
Priority disembarkation (eg F off first) is great at places like MIA and JFK where security is a nightmare
Others airlines differentiate even more eg LH private limousine ground transfers
FF tier point accumulation is higher in F than J
For those that appreciate these things (and often the fare difference is not massive) why would you not?
In one of the "Crazy Rich Asians" books a character goes BALLISTIC when he has to get a BA First Class flight to London from SIN because a member of the family already has gone off in the Gulfstream.............. 
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CabinCrewe Yes, I accept all of that but even a small amount more may be too much. Also, as happened with Concorde, there is a view that companies do not want their people travelling F when times are hard. Whatever happens to this country in the next couple of months, I think the demand for top range seats will be further reduced.
