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DaveReidUK 4th Mar 2018 10:25

British Airways
 
The first of BA's LGW B772s to be "densified" returned from SIN last week in its new 32J/48W/252Y (332-seat) configuration, representing 47% more seats than its previous 14F/48J/40W/124Y layout. Hmmm.

HH6702 4th Mar 2018 10:47

Wow that's some increase.

KelvinD 4th Mar 2018 10:53

A 47% increase in seats is one way of looking at it. How about "slightly more than 100% increase" in Y Class? (from 124 to 252). Even more hmmm!

Heathrow Harry 4th Mar 2018 10:59

thanks for the warning.....................

TopBunk 4th Mar 2018 12:47

To be fair, that's comparing apples with pears.

The refit sees it becoming 3 class rather than 4 class.

It would be fairer to compare it to the existing 3 class layout of 40J/24W/219Y

TURIN 4th Mar 2018 12:54

Perfect for regional routes then. :\

OntimeexceptACARS 4th Mar 2018 13:10


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10072331)
The first of BA's LGW B772s to be "densified" returned from SIN last week in its new 32J/48W/252Y (332-seat) configuration

Had heard the new J on denisified aircraft would be same as the B77W aircraft.

Is there much difference if so?

We are flying on LGW-BGI in mid April, lucky to have got a deal in J, but looks like the conversion programme will take many months, so looks less likely we'll be on a refitted aircraft.

Thankful that we don't have to endure those rock hard new Y seats, they are a mare even on short haul.

DaveReidUK 4th Mar 2018 13:55


Originally Posted by TopBunk (Post 10072472)
To be fair, that's comparing apples with pears.

The refit sees it becoming 3 class rather than 4 class.

It would be fairer to compare it to the existing 3 class layout of 40J/24W/219Y

OK. I'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "before" an "after" comparison of the same aircraft invalid.

But you're perfectly correct, it doesn't take a maths genius to work out that 47% more seats involves more than just changing Y from 9-abreast to 10-abreast.

Buster the Bear 4th Mar 2018 16:51

5 seats less that the highest number on the 747 fleet!

CabinCrewe 4th Mar 2018 17:34

.... and the CE middle table being removed- whatever next

TopBunk 4th Mar 2018 17:45

DR UK

Well, IMHO, BA have operated different configuration 777-200's for ages.

Some have been 3-class (ie J/W/Y) and some 4-class (F/J/W/Y). The variant deployed has been a function primarily of the passenger mix on the route. Primarily leisure routes tend to have less demand for 'F' so have been 3-class. Primarily business, 4-class.

This aircraft has been changed from a 4-class to a 3-class configuration. Obviously removing 14'F' and 16'J' seats is going to release lots of space for additional 'W' and 'Y' seats, of which a percentage will be due to the 'densification' in 'Y', hence my comment about apples and pears.

The96er 4th Mar 2018 17:50


... and the CE middle table being removed- whatever next
That's for the incoming A320NEO's, not the 777 refurbs.

Flightrider 4th Mar 2018 19:06

Give me the A320s with the new seats any day compared to the seats on the ex bmi fleet at the BA seat pitch. Much better than the seriously unpleasant seats on the 319s.

Skipness One Echo 4th Mar 2018 19:44


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10072524)
OK. I'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "before" an "after" comparison of the same aircraft invalid.

But you're perfectly correct, it doesn't take a maths genius to work out that 47% more seats involves more than just changing Y from 9-abreast to 10-abreast.

Because it's changing subfleets from 4 class to 3. It won't be going to BGI anymore for example.

CabinCrewe 4th Mar 2018 20:47


Originally Posted by The96er (Post 10072696)
That's for the incoming A320NEO's, not the 777 refurbs.

When did 777s routinely have CE with middle blocked seats?!

The96er 4th Mar 2018 21:03


When did 777s routinely have CE with middle blocked seats?!
The thread was referring to the 777 refurbs, to which you stated that the CE middle table was being removed, I merely stated that the club CE table removal is for the incoming A320neo's and not the 777's which the thread was about !

TCX69 5th Mar 2018 07:03

32J/52W/252Y = 336 is the new configuration.

DaveReidUK 5th Mar 2018 07:47


Originally Posted by TCX69 (Post 10073093)
32J/52W/252Y = 336 is the new configuration.

Fair enough. Looks like BA must have amended its plans since the original announcement it made to the capital markets:

http://onemileatatime.img.boardingar...ways-Fleet.png

Heathrow Harry 5th Mar 2018 09:07

Back to the horrible 3+4+3 layout

Wycombe 5th Mar 2018 09:58

.....which EK (who operate way more 777's than anyone else) have made to work. Not saying it's good, but BA have to compete (and send a message to the likes of Norwegian that they are prepared to do so).


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