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Old 4th Mar 2018, 09:25
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The first of BA's LGW B772s to be "densified" returned from SIN last week in its new 32J/48W/252Y (332-seat) configuration, representing 47% more seats than its previous 14F/48J/40W/124Y layout. Hmmm.
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Wow that's some increase.
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A 47% increase in seats is one way of looking at it. How about "slightly more than 100% increase" in Y Class? (from 124 to 252). Even more hmmm!
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thanks for the warning.....................
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To be fair, that's comparing apples with pears.

The refit sees it becoming 3 class rather than 4 class.

It would be fairer to compare it to the existing 3 class layout of 40J/24W/219Y
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Perfect for regional routes then.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
The first of BA's LGW B772s to be "densified" returned from SIN last week in its new 32J/48W/252Y (332-seat) configuration
Had heard the new J on denisified aircraft would be same as the B77W aircraft.

Is there much difference if so?

We are flying on LGW-BGI in mid April, lucky to have got a deal in J, but looks like the conversion programme will take many months, so looks less likely we'll be on a refitted aircraft.

Thankful that we don't have to endure those rock hard new Y seats, they are a mare even on short haul.
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To be fair, that's comparing apples with pears.

The refit sees it becoming 3 class rather than 4 class.

It would be fairer to compare it to the existing 3 class layout of 40J/24W/219Y
OK. I'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "before" an "after" comparison of the same aircraft invalid.

But you're perfectly correct, it doesn't take a maths genius to work out that 47% more seats involves more than just changing Y from 9-abreast to 10-abreast.
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5 seats less that the highest number on the 747 fleet!
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.... and the CE middle table being removed- whatever next
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Well, IMHO, BA have operated different configuration 777-200's for ages.

Some have been 3-class (ie J/W/Y) and some 4-class (F/J/W/Y). The variant deployed has been a function primarily of the passenger mix on the route. Primarily leisure routes tend to have less demand for 'F' so have been 3-class. Primarily business, 4-class.

This aircraft has been changed from a 4-class to a 3-class configuration. Obviously removing 14'F' and 16'J' seats is going to release lots of space for additional 'W' and 'Y' seats, of which a percentage will be due to the 'densification' in 'Y', hence my comment about apples and pears.
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... and the CE middle table being removed- whatever next
That's for the incoming A320NEO's, not the 777 refurbs.
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Old 4th Mar 2018, 18:06
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Give me the A320s with the new seats any day compared to the seats on the ex bmi fleet at the BA seat pitch. Much better than the seriously unpleasant seats on the 319s.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
OK. I'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "before" an "after" comparison of the same aircraft invalid.

But you're perfectly correct, it doesn't take a maths genius to work out that 47% more seats involves more than just changing Y from 9-abreast to 10-abreast.
Because it's changing subfleets from 4 class to 3. It won't be going to BGI anymore for example.
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That's for the incoming A320NEO's, not the 777 refurbs.
When did 777s routinely have CE with middle blocked seats?!
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When did 777s routinely have CE with middle blocked seats?!
The thread was referring to the 777 refurbs, to which you stated that the CE middle table was being removed, I merely stated that the club CE table removal is for the incoming A320neo's and not the 777's which the thread was about !
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32J/52W/252Y = 336 is the new configuration.
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Old 5th Mar 2018, 06:47
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32J/52W/252Y = 336 is the new configuration.
Fair enough. Looks like BA must have amended its plans since the original announcement it made to the capital markets:

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Back to the horrible 3+4+3 layout
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.....which EK (who operate way more 777's than anyone else) have made to work. Not saying it's good, but BA have to compete (and send a message to the likes of Norwegian that they are prepared to do so).
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