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Old 21st Jan 2019, 15:42
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
I can understand why an airline might occasionally paint an aircraft in retro livery under the same name, but using the name of a predecessor company seems odd. The big corporate name and logo functions partly as an advertisement - and the old logo suggests how long established and mature a company is. Using the name of an old company loses that benefit and potentially causes confusion to people outside the airline industry
Even if they end up repainting a couple of aircraft in legacy brand names (BOAC and BEA) it will be two out of 280 odd planes. Sure there will be some confusion (although maybe no more confusing for some people who see BA planes with OneWorld plastered on the side) but BA presumably think this will be offset by the positive PR coverage.

Not sure they will even use BEA anyway but I guess we are odds on for the return of the 1980s Landor livery.
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Old 21st Jan 2019, 16:01
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Originally Posted by tigertanaka
Not sure they will even use BEA anyway
BA's announcement made to its staff strongly implies that it will. Looking forward to an Airbus in the red square scheme.
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Old 21st Jan 2019, 16:11
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US Airways adopted much later on "Heritage" liveries from airlines they had previously absorbed on examples of their A319`s...

The original America West livery...
The final America West livery...
The Piedmont livery...
& the Pacific Southwest Airlines (PSA) livery...
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Old 21st Jan 2019, 22:31
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Landor? Boring. I want to see the International Tails back, they were fantastic. (Yes, I've heard all the arguments)
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Old 21st Jan 2019, 23:46
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Originally Posted by PAXboy
Landor? Boring. I want to see the International Tails back, they were fantastic. (Yes, I've heard all the arguments)
There were about 30 different utopia tail fin designs. Which to choose... because you have no chance of BA paying out to paint 30 aircraft in different tails...The whole utopia livery is a part of BA’s history that BA and a lot of there passengers would rather forget.

TBH I think that there is more chance of seeing a A380 In GO livery than with one of those tails.
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Old 22nd Jan 2019, 07:23
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BA have given a date of 18th Feb for arrival at Heathrow from the paint shop in Dublin.

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Old 22nd Jan 2019, 15:08
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I am all too aware of the controversy over the international tails and the boss at the time. I know we shall not see their like again and I understand the reasons why. But, for me, they were joyous and highly innovative. That said, the classic BOAC scheme for the 744 is one I heartily approve of - mainly as my first flight ever (Dec 1965) was in a VC10 in this livery!
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Old 22nd Jan 2019, 16:01
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I think you will find that the current BA Chatham Dockyard tails were in fact part of the World tails.
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Old 22nd Jan 2019, 16:03
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It was indeed the dedicated Concorde theme.
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Old 23rd Jan 2019, 10:40
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The BOAC original 747 1970 livery was chosen I gather to coincide with the first 747's and almost 40 years of BOAC/BA 747 operations and 45 years of BEA/BA merger (1974)

An A321 NEO is also rumoured to be coming in BEA speed jack livery which will be rather nice if it emerges
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Old 23rd Jan 2019, 10:54
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Originally Posted by rog747
The BOAC original 747 1970 livery was chosen I gather to coincide with the first 747's and almost 40 years of BOAC/BA 747 operations and 45 years of BEA/BA merger (1974)

An A321 NEO is also rumoured to be coming in BEA speed jack livery which will be rather nice if it emerges
Doubt it. In the press release BA said "All new aircraft entering the fleet, including the A350, will continue to receive today’s popular Chatham Dockyard design."

If BA do a BEA livery (which I hope for) I suspect it will be an A319.
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Old 23rd Jan 2019, 11:12
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A usually very reliable source on another forum suggests the aircraft to be treated will be 747s G-BYGC, G-BNLY, G-CIVB and A319 G-EUPJ.
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Old 23rd Jan 2019, 15:42
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Originally Posted by rog747
The BOAC original 747 1970 livery was chosen I gather to coincide with the first 747's and almost 40 years of BOAC/BA 747 operations and 45 years of BEA/BA merger (1974)
Do you mean nearly 50 years of BOAC/BA 747 ops (1970-2019) ?

Though it was almost a year after the first aircraft was delivered before 747s started carrying fare-paying passengers.
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Old 23rd Jan 2019, 20:16
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Originally Posted by vctenderness
I think you will find that the current BA Chatham Dockyard tails were in fact part of the World tails.

Yep.....I vividly remember attending a “top secret/need to know/eyes only” presentation prior to the introduction of those tails..held in a top secret bunker disguised as a large windowless caravan parked outside Compass Centre (the former BA Crew report centre on the Bath Road) ....On the day I was there group of us (flight crew and cabin crew) sat down, listened to some advertising person, looked at some art work and mock ups and then told said luvvie we thought a lot of the art work was “meh” at best, but that the Chatham Dockyard Tails were quite nice actually and could that opinion get fed back to the Board... we were then somewhat taken a back when the artistic person told us, errr, no, we weren’t looking at a shortlist, that he wasn’t asking for opinions, that the decision had already been made and that the decision had been we were getting the lot.....but thanks for coming...

Anyhow Chatham looked good, right from day one, on everything from Concorde through the 744 and on to the shorthaul fleet. Of course eventually, and with no fanfare and on the quiet the whole fleet got that scheme...So popular opinion won in the end and it is about the only instance I can think of where Margaret Thatcher and I shared the same opinion.

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Old 27th Jan 2019, 17:54
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I doubt they will do it but I'd love to see a BCal livery on something.
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 18:18
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There are two PA28s flying round in British Caledonian livery at the moment.

That said I am not sure if BA retain copyright on the proud lion as it went off with BCAL Charter to form Calair and Novair eventually morphing into Thomas Cook UK today.
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 18:46
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BCal had to have special permission from the Court of the Lord Lyon to use the Lion Rampant as part of its colour scheme. I suspect this one may go into the “all too difficult” box when you also consider whether the Dan-Air crowd would then demand a retro livery too! BOAC, BEA, Negus and Landor must surely be the four? (Cambrian and Northeast would be fun though...)
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 18:50
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Caledonian was merged with Flying Colours to form JMCAir, which later become Thomas Cook Airlines.
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 22:11
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Originally Posted by Rutan16
There are two PA28s flying round in British Caledonian livery at the moment.
Normally to be found one each at Shoreham and Blackbushe.

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Old 28th Jan 2019, 08:59
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G-BYGE (not G-BYGC) has gone to Dublin for painting, left LHR on Sunday mornnig.
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